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Please let there be a change to weapons that scale of squad size, to scale to larger when squads are 10+. and add some weapons to this list. Like Whirlwinds, Typhon missile launchers, Demolisher cannon, and appropriate weapons from other factions.

 Sim-Life wrote:
permission slip from wife etc

This is the most important item to bring.

Ice_can wrote:
Plasam is an across the board problem not just terminators. Plasma should never have been s7 s8 it should have stayed at s6 is safe s7 is gets hot like always has outside of the heavy variants. Powercreeping plasma was a huge mistake but unfortunately GW have stuck too it so the only option left is to price it at the appropriate cost which is about twice its current price.

In terms of pricing, what do you think of the suggestion I've seen of swapping the costs of plasma and melta weapons?

 Unit1126PLL wrote:
I do agree that making plasma overcharge actually dangerous would be a good start to making plasma an actual choice.

Currently, you overcharge against terminators because "WHY NOT!?" but if a roll of a natural 1 always overheated and could never be re-rolled, that's probably take a big chunk out of plasma's effectiveness.

I think you should still be allowed to re-roll it, but it still overcharges even when re-rolled. Change overcharge to be suffer 1 mortal wound on a 1 instead of instant death.

 Sim-Life wrote:

AdmiralHalsey wrote:

 Daedalus81 wrote:

AdmiralHalsey wrote:
So... Where is this post Adeptacon FAQ then?

Patience is a virtue.

We've been patient for 25 days.
6 more an it'll be an April FAQ.

Are you that eager to start bitching about how it changed nothing and is a waste of time?

I'm also looking forward to people adding it to their list of things that they have to bring along to a game with the BRB, multiple codexes, Indexes, Chapter Approved, faction FAQ, Oxford English Dictionanary, army insurance papers, permission slip from wife etc

I've been waiting all month to complain

 fraser1191 wrote:

 Sim-Life wrote:

AdmiralHalsey wrote:

 Daedalus81 wrote:

AdmiralHalsey wrote:
So... Where is this post Adeptacon FAQ then?

Patience is a virtue.

We've been patient for 25 days.
6 more an it'll be an April FAQ.

Are you that eager to start bitching about how it changed nothing and is a waste of time?

I'm also looking forward to people adding it to their list of things that they have to bring along to a game with the BRB, multiple codexes, Indexes, Chapter Approved, faction FAQ, Oxford English Dictionanary, army insurance papers, permission slip from wife etc

I've been waiting all month to complain

Looks like you're going to have to wait longer...

What if plasma weapons inflict a wound on the bearer for every roll of one on the dice? That way A person that re-rolls the dice still looses the model and any extra's spill over to the squad? Even if you have a bonus to hit roll, the 1 still nukes you.

Or better, it nukes you for the damage profile of the weapon itself worth of mortal wounds

It's official, the March FAQ is now a spring FAQ, coming maybe some time before summer.

I don't mind though, it gave me time to send an email whining about my pet peeve; the Leman Russ Vanquisher being crap at the one thing it should do well.

Panzergraf wrote:
It's official, the March FAQ is now a spring FAQ, coming maybe some time before summer.

I don't mind though, it gave me time to send an email whining about my pet peeve; the Leman Russ Vanquisher being crap at the one thing it should do well.

Do you have a source? I dont see this anywhere.... Oh it's on the FB page.

Great. So I have an event in May, and no idea what this will do to my list or how I'll be able to correct for it, or even if the event organisers will include it or not.

Thanks Geedubs, particularly for saying you had it all ready to roll at Adepticon, before waiting till it was over before going 'LOL JOKES ON YOU.'

AdmiralHalsey wrote:
Great. So I have an event in May, and no idea what this will do to my list or how I'll be able to correct for it, or even if the event organisers will include it or not.

Thanks Geedubs, particularly for saying you had it all ready to roll at Adepticon, before waiting till it was over before going 'LOL JOKES ON YOU.'

I bet if they hadn't addressed the feedback from Adepticon you'd be all "Thanks Geedubs, 6 months of flyrant spam".

I agree that the delay is necessary after Adepticon.

 Sim-Life wrote:

AdmiralHalsey wrote:
Great. So I have an event in May, and no idea what this will do to my list or how I'll be able to correct for it, or even if the event organisers will include it or not.

Thanks Geedubs, particularly for saying you had it all ready to roll at Adepticon, before waiting till it was over before going 'LOL JOKES ON YOU.'

I bet if they hadn't addressed the feedback from Adepticon you'd be all "Thanks Geedubs, 6 months of flyrant spam".

As opposed to whatever spam happens after the thingy is released? I'll take Flyrant spam, at least I own those.

AdmiralHalsey wrote:

 Sim-Life wrote:

AdmiralHalsey wrote:
Great. So I have an event in May, and no idea what this will do to my list or how I'll be able to correct for it, or even if the event organisers will include it or not.

Thanks Geedubs, particularly for saying you had it all ready to roll at Adepticon, before waiting till it was over before going 'LOL JOKES ON YOU.'

I bet if they hadn't addressed the feedback from Adepticon you'd be all "Thanks Geedubs, 6 months of flyrant spam".

As opposed to whatever spam happens after the thingy is released? I'll take Flyrant spam, at least I own those.

"Fix the game.... Unless its broken in a way that benefits me directly"

As someone starting Tyranids I am waiting for this FAQ to see what changes before I buy anything else. If they nerf flyrants I'd like it to be before I go out and buy like 5 of them.

I hope they hit that -1 to hit upgrade for the carnifex, too. It should have that OR the BS upgrade, not both.

https://www.facebook.com/1575682476085719/photos/a.1576243776029589.1073741828.1575682476085719/1998760827111213/?type=3&theater

Delayed.

does it say till when?

It says stuff like "just a little bit", "Coming soon"

I think that if its much past the first couple days in april it needs to be further updates.

In retrospect, having a FaQ released the same weekend of one of the data points they emphasized (adepticon) was a bad call.

Reemule wrote:
It says stuff like "just a little bit", "Coming soon"

I think that if its much past the first couple days in april it needs to be further updates.

In retrospect, having a FaQ released the same weekend of one of the data points they emphasized (adepticon) was a bad call.

It was a lose/lose.

Either it came before Adepticon and people would complain it invalidated their lists or it came after and people would complain they didn't address the problems that were found during Adepticon.

They must be trying to incorporate some questions/changes that came up during Adepticon into the FAQ.

Only GW could miss the first deadline - which they themselves set - of their new improved super FAQ release schedule.

Keep up the good work guys!

 Lord Damocles wrote:
Only GW could miss the first deadline - which they themselves set - of their new improved super FAQ release schedule.

Keep up the good work guys!

Yeah how dare they incorporate feedback into their improvement loop!

 Farseer_V2 wrote:
Yeah how dare they incorporate feedback into their improvement loop!

They announced that the FAQ wouldn't be out until after Adepticon, so they must have intended to incorporate their 'findings' back then.

If the need for time to decide that being able to spam eleventy billion flyrants is a problem has only just been realised, how are we supposed to take that as anything other than either incompetence or deliberate misinformation?

They knew the timescale they had to work with, they set the date (to within a few days, at least) of release, and it's not like Adepticon has revealed any great revelations to us about balance.

If the FAQ can't be released until after feedback from Adepticon has been incorporated, then why not wait until after the next major event so that feedback from that can be incorporated too, or the event after that?

Darsath wrote:

 Unit1126PLL wrote:
I do agree that making plasma overcharge actually dangerous would be a good start to making plasma an actual choice.

Currently, you overcharge against terminators because "WHY NOT!?" but if a roll of a natural 1 always overheated and could never be re-rolled, that's probably take a big chunk out of plasma's effectiveness.

I think you should still be allowed to re-roll it, but it still overcharges even when re-rolled. Change overcharge to be suffer 1 mortal wound on a 1 instead of instant death.

This is what I was thinking as well. You still get the reroll for a chance to land a hit (just as you still make 2 attacks with a plasma gun when in rapid fire, even if the first was a 1), but whether you hit with the reroll or not you're blowing yourself up. I also like 1 mortal wound instead of insta-death (coincidentally, that could also benefit units like chaos termies with combi-plasmas, as well as make options like a plasma gun on a Razorback not totally insane).

 Porphyrius wrote:

Darsath wrote:

 Unit1126PLL wrote:
I do agree that making plasma overcharge actually dangerous would be a good start to making plasma an actual choice.

Currently, you overcharge against terminators because "WHY NOT!?" but if a roll of a natural 1 always overheated and could never be re-rolled, that's probably take a big chunk out of plasma's effectiveness.

I think you should still be allowed to re-roll it, but it still overcharges even when re-rolled. Change overcharge to be suffer 1 mortal wound on a 1 instead of instant death.

This is what I was thinking as well. You still get the reroll for a chance to land a hit (just as you still make 2 attacks with a plasma gun when in rapid fire, even if the first was a 1), but whether you hit with the reroll or not you're blowing yourself up. I also like 1 mortal wound instead of insta-death (coincidentally, that could also benefit units like chaos termies with combi-plasmas, as well as make options like a plasma gun on a Razorback not totally insane).

This makes hellblasters even better then. Combined with anything that gives them FNP rolls (such as the BA Standard of Sacrifice), that's a straight upgrade. I'm not sure that's the balance most people want. If it became a wound that could not be avoided/negated, then perhaps it would be less problematic.

Hellblasters need some buffs, because the crap range combined with the need for a babysitter makes them... subpar, imo.

That's fair, I forgot that FNP saves can even be used on mortal wounds.

 davou wrote:

AdmiralHalsey wrote:

 Sim-Life wrote:

AdmiralHalsey wrote:
Great. So I have an event in May, and no idea what this will do to my list or how I'll be able to correct for it, or even if the event organisers will include it or not.

Thanks Geedubs, particularly for saying you had it all ready to roll at Adepticon, before waiting till it was over before going 'LOL JOKES ON YOU.'

I bet if they hadn't addressed the feedback from Adepticon you'd be all "Thanks Geedubs, 6 months of flyrant spam".

As opposed to whatever spam happens after the thingy is released? I'll take Flyrant spam, at least I own those.

"Fix the game.... Unless its broken in a way that benefits me directly"

I didn't say, 'Fix the game' I said, release the FAQ when you said you would, because businesses should be able to handle their own deadlines.
Or does this not apply if your business is expensive plastic models?

Martel732 wrote:
Hellblasters need some buffs, because the crap range combined with the need for a babysitter makes them... subpar, imo.

Eh, I think the only version of Hellblaster that is truly lacking is the heavy variant. The increase in strength over the rapid fire version doesn't justify the lack of mobility and an additional shot possibility. I can't speak to the non DA/BA versions, but I've seen the DA/BA versions put in work with the proper buffing units (ancient/apothecary/captain/lieutenant).