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Rumor is shooty armiger is 170ish with two predator autocannons.

If true my army will be

Super heavy 1: warden w fist, INv trait and endless fury (Tybalt) , 2 Warglaives, 1 Helverin
Super heavy 2: paladin inv relic (Balthazar), 2 Helverins, 1 Warglaive
Battalion: 2cc, 3x infantry squads

My problem with the dominus is the plasma/volcano is kind of meh, while the flamer is good but by god the harpoon is awful.

Though a freeblade dominus with a pair of missiles on his back re rolling ones to hit vs the warlord seems pretty baller, and something that might scare opponents into acting differently.

gendoikari87 wrote:
Rumor is shooty armiger is 170ish with two predator autocannons.

If true my army will be

Super heavy 1: warden w fist, INv trait and endless fury (Tybalt) , 2 Warglaives, 1 Helverin
Super heavy 2: paladin inv relic (Balthazar), 2 Helverins, 1 Warglaive
Battalion: 2cc, 3x infantry squads

Problem at this point is you don’t have the guard command point warlord trait and don’t have the command point relic. Still a decent list just don’t have command point farming.

Harpoon is pretty great when you factor in the meltas make it effectively five shot. It should have no problem performing it’s intended task.

 Crazyterran wrote:
My problem with the dominus is the plasma/volcano is kind of meh, while the flamer is good but by god the harpoon is awful.

Though a freeblade dominus with a pair of missiles on his back re rolling ones to hit vs the warlord seems pretty baller, and something that might scare opponents into acting differently.

Problem with the big knights is a combination of point cost and neither has ideal weapons combinations to make up for the cost and it becomes better to just take 2 knights. This could change depending on relics that replace weapons.

gungo wrote:

gendoikari87 wrote:
Rumor is shooty armiger is 170ish with two predator autocannons.

If true my army will be

Super heavy 1: warden w fist, INv trait and endless fury (Tybalt) , 2 Warglaives, 1 Helverin
Super heavy 2: paladin inv relic (Balthazar), 2 Helverins, 1 Warglaive
Battalion: 2cc, 3x infantry squads

Problem at this point is you don’t have the guard command point warlord trait and don’t have the command point relic. Still a decent list just don’t have command point farming.

Only one knight short of a third superheavy detachment. Being genuinely allied to guard in an invested sense is one thing, taking a thirty lasgun battery just to try to minmax seems a little on the crass side whilst also not being very creative even from an optimisation perspective.

gendoikari87 wrote:
Rumor is shooty armiger is 170ish with two predator autocannons.

If true my army will be

Super heavy 1: warden w fist, INv trait and endless fury (Tybalt) , 2 Warglaives, 1 Helverin
Super heavy 2: paladin inv relic (Balthazar), 2 Helverins, 1 Warglaive
Battalion: 2cc, 3x infantry squads

That looks pretty well-balanced. I am looking at the following:

Super Heavy 1: Warden with Fist and Stormspear, 2x Warglaives
Super Heavy 2: Errant with Chainsword and Icarus Autocannon
SH Aux: Canis Rex

Depending on points, I might replace the Errant with a Valiant.

I will likely have another Warden, so I might run two Wardens with Stormspears. I like them as a generalist Knight.

gungo wrote:

gendoikari87 wrote:
Rumor is shooty armiger is 170ish with two predator autocannons.

If true my army will be

Super heavy 1: warden w fist, INv trait and endless fury (Tybalt) , 2 Warglaives, 1 Helverin
Super heavy 2: paladin inv relic (Balthazar), 2 Helverins, 1 Warglaive
Battalion: 2cc, 3x infantry squads

Problem at this point is you don’t have the guard command point warlord trait and don’t have the command point relic. Still a decent list just don’t have command point farming.

true still 5+3+3+3 is nice. It’s just not brokenly so


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changemod wrote:

gungo wrote:

gendoikari87 wrote:
Rumor is shooty armiger is 170ish with two predator autocannons.

If true my army will be

Super heavy 1: warden w fist, INv trait and endless fury (Tybalt) , 2 Warglaives, 1 Helverin
Super heavy 2: paladin inv relic (Balthazar), 2 Helverins, 1 Warglaive
Battalion: 2cc, 3x infantry squads

Problem at this point is you don’t have the guard command point warlord trait and don’t have the command point relic. Still a decent list just don’t have command point farming.

Only one knight short of a third superheavy detachment. Being genuinely allied to guard in an invested sense is one thing, taking a thirty lasgun battery just to try to minmax seems a little on the crass side whilst also not being very creative even from an optimisation perspective.

oh the guard isn’t there to farm anything they’re a wall of flesh. Screens

gendoikari87 wrote:

gungo wrote:

gendoikari87 wrote:
Rumor is shooty armiger is 170ish with two predator autocannons.

If true my army will be

Super heavy 1: warden w fist, INv trait and endless fury (Tybalt) , 2 Warglaives, 1 Helverin
Super heavy 2: paladin inv relic (Balthazar), 2 Helverins, 1 Warglaive
Battalion: 2cc, 3x infantry squads

Problem at this point is you don’t have the guard command point warlord trait and don’t have the command point relic. Still a decent list just don’t have command point farming.

true still 5+3+3+3 is nice. It’s just not brokenly so


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changemod wrote:

gungo wrote:

gendoikari87 wrote:
Rumor is shooty armiger is 170ish with two predator autocannons.

If true my army will be

Super heavy 1: warden w fist, INv trait and endless fury (Tybalt) , 2 Warglaives, 1 Helverin
Super heavy 2: paladin inv relic (Balthazar), 2 Helverins, 1 Warglaive
Battalion: 2cc, 3x infantry squads

Problem at this point is you don’t have the guard command point warlord trait and don’t have the command point relic. Still a decent list just don’t have command point farming.

Only one knight short of a third superheavy detachment. Being genuinely allied to guard in an invested sense is one thing, taking a thirty lasgun battery just to try to minmax seems a little on the crass side whilst also not being very creative even from an optimisation perspective.

oh the guard isnt there to farm anything they’re a wall of flesh. Screens

ya 14 command points is decent and you still have enough to use the +1 invul strat. Knights are going to chew through CPs. Multiple relics, +1 invul strat, explosion strat, reroll failed saves, etc

Rumor on the long war podcast was you only get command points if everything is the same class, which brings it down to 5+3, I figure I’ll need 3+ invuln strat. So if that’s true I might need those guard for college in addition to being a screen

I can't possibly imagine there's such a rule. Not sure why some guys on a skype call would come up with that.

If it does exist, that's a really obscure and really specific rule meant just to mess with Knights, and I couldnt begin to understand why it would exist.

The first preview article talked about using Armigers to round out Knight detachments. Not sure what purpose that would serve if taking them denied you any CP.

gendoikari87 wrote:
Rumor is shooty armiger is 170ish with two predator autocannons.

If true my army will be

Super heavy 1: warden w fist, INv trait and endless fury (Tybalt) , 2 Warglaives, 1 Helverin
Super heavy 2: paladin inv relic (Balthazar), 2 Helverins, 1 Warglaive
Battalion: 2cc, 3x infantry squads

Two Preditor Autocannons? Shooting at the same target nets:

2D3 +2D3 (average 8) shots at strength 7 and 3 damage. AP is weak, but damn that's a lot of dakka if true.

So, which house allowed Heavy weapons to be fired as Assault?

Watching the stream, so far nothing really new or earth shattering.

I look forward to updates!

 BrookM wrote:
Watching the stream, so far nothing really new or earth shattering.

Well, only been the lore segment so far.

Cmon gw want more armiger info

Gallant +1 A, +1 WS

Knight Gallant has an extra attack and an extra WS making it hit on 2s

Point reductions confirmed.

rip late

Avenger down from 95 to 75

Reaper is now S+6




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Thermal Cannon is now officially heavy D6 as with the AdMech codex.


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Datasheet cards: same as AoS


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Datasheet cards also includes tokens for wounds and keeping track of certain characteristics when you take damage.

Certain warlord traits are included as well to keep track of.


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You need to have at least three big Knights (Questoris or Dominus) to get your CP's in a Super-heavy detachment.

 XT-1984 wrote:
You still get your CPs with Armigers, the rule is that you cannot make one knight a Character unless you have 3 big Knights in a detachment.

Armigers can’t be characters, because what is fun?

Terryn warlord trait: re-roll failed charges


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Terryn strategem: Glory and Honour (3CP) - it can fight a second time during the fight phase

 BrookM wrote:

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You need to have at least three big Knights (Questoris or Dominus) to get your CP's in a Super-heavy detachment.

That's silly. Why so silly?

Nobles do not follow peasants.

You need to have at least three big Knights to get your CP's in a Super-heavy detachment.

One I could see, but three. That is beyond ridiculous. Plenty of factions can do cheap battalions for more CP. 7-800 Pts for 3 wouldn't have broken anything. This just screws people who want to play pure knights.

 BrookM wrote:
Nobles do not follow peasants.

And if you only took peasants?

changemod wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Nobles do not follow peasants.

And if you only took peasants?

Sounds like the Helm Mechanicum has malfunctioned then and the unruly mobs need to be put down.