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Are they not releasing the Armiger Warglaives separately then?
That's weird.

Winters full codex review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mau3TddGF1s&t=988s

Mini market is showing the pre order prices. You have to search "imperial knight". Renegades MSRP $195, Castellan $170, Armigers $75.

 dan2026 wrote:
Are they not releasing the Armiger Warglaives separately then?
That's weird.

Not at the moment it seems.

SS82 full codex review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZII_xblylU

Okay so both the Facebook page and the stream earlier had guys saying you -can- take an all freeblade detachment but “they might not work well together”.

Anyhow what they were avoiding saying there is that you can only take traits for one freeblade per detachment. That said, the freeblade doesn’t count against your household trait.

Well, the more I think about it, the less I want the Valiant. It is a cool concept, but it will be way too easy to ignore. That Harpoon probably won't ever actually do anything. The Castellan, while not great, seems more suited for actually getting some work done.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Well, the more I think about it, the less I want the Valiant. It is a cool concept, but it will be way too easy to ignore. That Harpoon probably won't ever actually do anything. The Castellan, while not great, seems more suited for actually getting some work done.

No stop it rule of cool

Dammit I just wanna run that Harpoon with a Fist and paint it like Scorpion. It's like GW doesn't want me to buy a Knight again.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Well, the more I think about it, the less I want the Valiant. It is a cool concept, but it will be way too easy to ignore. That Harpoon probably won't ever actually do anything. The Castellan, while not great, seems more suited for actually getting some work done.

I don't know, the Harpoon re-rolls to hit (because why wouldn't you be shooting at a vehicle/monster), wounds a 2+ (use a command point for that pesky 1) and does 10+d3 wounds; that would actually be pretty good for deleting small-medium sized tanks and transports, could be very effective against those DE lists that spam Raiders, SM parking lot lists or Imperial Guard tank lines. The only downside is the poor range but then you have Knight houses, relics and warlords traits that can compensate.

Had to skip over to the second review video, but I -finally- found the secondary option for the reaper chain cleaver on Armigers: S user, AP -2, 1 damage, two attacks per attack on profile.

Not bad: If it was a feet attack it’d be amazing for carrying over to the other one, but take what you can get.

I’d say that Warglaives went from distinctly underpowered to distinctly overpowered. Not game-breakingly so, but cheaper than their actual worth.

Helverins are okay. A higher rate of fire rather than 3 damage would have been better given the importance of anti-horde and Warglaives already covering vehicle work. Compared to a similarly equipped dreadnought, they’re less accurate and more vulnerable to combat, but do higher damage per shot and are hypermobile. (Relatively unimportant on low terrain boards, great in a dense cityscape).

I’d actually be slightly tempted to stick a melta on a Helverin just to make more complete use of their high movement rate. Depends on how many spare points are left over, I guess.

Deaths grip stratagem is insane!!!
https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/2992
1d3 mortal wounds and you keep rolling off until you kill the target!!!

Danit wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Well, the more I think about it, the less I want the Valiant. It is a cool concept, but it will be way too easy to ignore. That Harpoon probably won't ever actually do anything. The Castellan, while not great, seems more suited for actually getting some work done.

No stop it rule of cool

You're right. What was I thinking?!

mrhappyface wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Well, the more I think about it, the less I want the Valiant. It is a cool concept, but it will be way too easy to ignore. That Harpoon probably won't ever actually do anything. The Castellan, while not great, seems more suited for actually getting some work done.

I don't know, the Harpoon re-rolls to hit (because why wouldn't you be shooting at a vehicle/monster), wounds a 2+ (use a command point for that pesky 1) and does 10+d3 wounds; that would actually be pretty good for deleting small-medium sized tanks and transports, could be very effective against those DE lists that spam Raiders, SM parking lot lists or Imperial Guard tank lines. The only downside is the poor range but then you have Knight houses, relics and warlords traits that can compensate.

Yeah, I just don't like the short effective range. But the ability to delete a vehicle is cool. It just sucks about the Invulnerable Saves. And Necron vehicles are immune outright.

So Canis Rex/Sir Hekatur isn't coming out this week either.

I assume him and the Warglaives must be next week.

And he’s the only one with the escape hatch. At least we get the laser torch arm and it looks like some knights will have the multi laser.

I’m still confused over the Knight lance and how that all will work with it’s character interaction and CP generation. I’m sure it will be clear before long.

What’s the rate of fire on Helverins guns? 2 or 2d3?

2D3 str 7 -1 D3
Two of them.
Heavy, but nonnegative for moving.

Pretty sure it’s the same as the Predators. Plus a stunner.

Do we have confirmation on the 1/3cp to add additional WL strat?

 drazz wrote:
2D3 str 7 -1 D3
Two of them.
Heavy, but nonnegative for moving.

Pretty sure it’s the same as the Predators. Plus a stunner.

thats not bad rof. That’s average of 8 shots

Also, do we have any idea when Armiger Warglaives will become available for purchase? I see they're not listed this week.

 dan2026 wrote:
Are they not releasing the Armiger Warglaives separately then?
That's weird.

Probably next week, alongside hektor

gungo wrote:
Deaths grip stratagem is insane!!!
https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/2992
1d3 mortal wounds and you keep rolling off until you kill the target!!!

Now this sounds like fun, and a decent reason to take the gauntlet instead of just guns.

 ZergSmasher wrote:

gungo wrote:
Deaths grip stratagem is insane!!!
https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/2992
1d3 mortal wounds and you keep rolling off until you kill the target!!!

Now this sounds like fun, and a decent reason to take the gauntlet instead of just guns.

Smashy Then Tossy Fist was already reason enough. Now it is just downright amazing. I am going to be using the relic Thunderstrike on my Warden for sure(+2 DMG and no penalty to hit? SIGN ME UP!).

Colour me very surprised that they cut a new sprue of existing parts to make the terrain piece. That makes it technically not a kitbash.

Anyway, new Knights are awesome. Surprised the Amigas aren't a combo-kit, but I guess they had to have something to release next week alongside the special character.

 xttz wrote:
What's hilarious is that FW knights don't have either of those keywords. So over half of all existing Knight units can't generate CP for a Knight army.

It's like GW don't want our money.

More like it's that their rules were written before these ones, and will be FAQ'd at a later date.

Kind of surprised the only weapon that seems to have gotten a price cut was the Avenger. RFBC seems like it could have used it more.

Regional pricing continues to be crazy. Here in Japan the renegades box, which contains two Knights and a big piece of scenery is cheaper than a single knight Castellan.

So is Knight Lance a new detachment, or does it replace Superheavy? Can you still do Knight+Armigers for a superheavy and get command points, but not get character?

 Drudge Dreadnought wrote:
So is Knight Lance a new detachment, or does it replace Superheavy? Can you still do Knight+Armigers for a superheavy and get command points, but not get character?

The real questions

If it replaces the superheavy detachment you screw over a lot of other armies.

I would imagine it will be along the lines of "If you take a superheavy detachment of knights, none of them are made into a character and none can be your warlord."