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GoatboyBeta wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Still, good to see the other option and that all the people screaming bloody murder about the cog'd armour plates can finally shut up about it as the other weapon sprue has the smooth shoulder plates.

Maybe they won't seeing knight house players are still at disadvantaged having to get more expensive box to get own version.

There is no mention of the Warglaive as an option with the Helverin kit. I suspect that they will have a separate box in the 2nd week of releases. So if you want all your Armigers to have the same style armour plates your going to need to swap with some one or hit the bits sellers.

So? Either way mechanicum has access to forgebane versions cheaper than knight players will have who have to get full box rather than forgebane versions. You don't think knight players are going to be annoyed about that?-)

 Mr_Rose wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Indeed, we're still awaiting the character kit and maybe a thrown together terrain kit, though it could easily share the slot with other non-Imperial Knight guff.

Isn't Canis Rex the character kit?

I have a strong suspicion that he will be a conversion kit rather than a whole other Knight box. Possibly even in plastic.

He will be in plastic, it boggles me that some people still think otherwise.

 Mr_Rose wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Indeed, we're still awaiting the character kit and maybe a thrown together terrain kit, though it could easily share the slot with other non-Imperial Knight guff.

Isn't Canis Rex the character kit?

I have a strong suspicion that he will be a conversion kit rather than a whole other Knight box. Possibly even in plastic.

I would be perfectly fine with that. I would be able to turn one of knights from Renegade into him and spend a lot less money. Time will tell. I don't know if I could see it as conversion kit though.

 BrookM wrote:

 Mr_Rose wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Indeed, we're still awaiting the character kit and maybe a thrown together terrain kit, though it could easily share the slot with other non-Imperial Knight guff.

Isn't Canis Rex the character kit?

I have a strong suspicion that he will be a conversion kit rather than a whole other Knight box. Possibly even in plastic.

He will be in plastic, it boggles me that some people still think otherwise.

Wishlisting. Now you have to pay for the character plastic surpluss making it expensive :( HEll forget character plastic surpluss. IT's special character so even bigger surprlus.

tneva82 wrote:

 BrookM wrote:

 Mr_Rose wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Indeed, we're still awaiting the character kit and maybe a thrown together terrain kit, though it could easily share the slot with other non-Imperial Knight guff.

Isn't Canis Rex the character kit?

I have a strong suspicion that he will be a conversion kit rather than a whole other Knight box. Possibly even in plastic.

He will be in plastic, it boggles me that some people still think otherwise.

Wishlisting. Now you have to pay for the character plastic surpluss making it expensive :( HEll forget character plastic surpluss. IT's special character so even bigger surprlus.

I'm sorry, what?

 BrookM wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 BrookM wrote:

 Mr_Rose wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Indeed, we're still awaiting the character kit and maybe a thrown together terrain kit, though it could easily share the slot with other non-Imperial Knight guff.

Isn't Canis Rex the character kit?

I have a strong suspicion that he will be a conversion kit rather than a whole other Knight box. Possibly even in plastic.

He will be in plastic, it boggles me that some people still think otherwise.

Wishlisting. Now you have to pay for the character plastic surpluss making it expensive :( HEll forget character plastic surpluss. IT's special character so even bigger surprlus.

I'm sorry, what?

Platic is about worst medium possible for characters and even more special characters. Plastic is designated for mass production. For characters that you are unlikely to buy more than 2-3 in an army it's going to add extra overhead far more than say for tactical marines. Special character that you CANNOT field more than 1 and thus have no need to buy more than 1 it's even worse.

GW's insistance on plastic for characters raises up prices far more than they could be with non-plastic. Me? I would prefer to pay less.

tneva82 wrote:

So? Either way mechanicum has access to forgebane versions cheaper than knight players will have who have to get full box rather than forgebane versions. You don't think knight players are going to be annoyed about that?-)

Sure if you have or want the full contents of the Forgebane box it works out cheaper. But if you want cogboy shoulders for your shooty Armigers and your Warglaives then your going to have to source extras from some where. Same as people who want the smooth ones for all there different Armigers. Me? I'm going to mix and match the armour plates.

Guys it's called eBay, armigers are $35 bucks there from Forgebane

tneva82 wrote:
GW's insistance on plastic for characters raises up prices far more than they could be with non-plastic. Me? I would prefer to pay less.

You think we'd be paying less if it were resin? GW doesn't pass savings onto us.

And do you think the character being plastic is wishlisting? He's going to be on the sprue with all his unique Knight parts.

gendoikari87 wrote:
Guys it's called eBay, armigers are $35 bucks there from Forgebane

Yes. And unless the kit with knight house shoulder pads are 35$ the knight house players who don't want mechanicum shoulder pads have to pay more. So back to my point. If you are knight house player you are disadvantaged over mechanicum player.

Because of one combo-campaign box they put out? This isn't that big a deal.

tneva82 wrote:

GoatboyBeta wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Still, good to see the other option and that all the people screaming bloody murder about the cog'd armour plates can finally shut up about it as the other weapon sprue has the smooth shoulder plates.

Maybe they won't seeing knight house players are still at disadvantaged having to get more expensive box to get own version.

There is no mention of the Warglaive as an option with the Helverin kit. I suspect that they will have a separate box in the 2nd week of releases. So if you want all your Armigers to have the same style armour plates your going to need to swap with some one or hit the bits sellers.

So? Either way mechanicum has access to forgebane versions cheaper than knight players will have who have to get full box rather than forgebane versions. You don't think knight players are going to be annoyed about that?-)

I'm not.

What if you play a non mechanicus knight house and don’t care there’s a touch of cogwheel symbolism on your knights

Then the world might end.

Non-mech players will pay the normal, full price for their knights. The fact that someone else gets a discount is nice for them - but not a problem for you if you don’t play mech. It adds £0 to the price you pay.

Mandragola wrote:
Non-mech players will pay the normal, full price for their knights. The fact that someone else gets a discount is nice for them - but not a problem for you if you don’t play mech. It adds £0 to the price you pay.

It adds the price of forgebane vs full kit. That i# unlikely to be )

Back to the topic of the models themselves for a moment...
...has anyone else noticed that there are two options for carapace armor for the Dominus-class knights?

This seems to be a relatively odd choice since there doesn't really look to be much difference between the two options other than subtle aesthetic changes. I have to assume that would take up a huge amount of real estate on the sprue that could have gone toward more weapons options or something.

I wonder if there's some kind of difference with the dorsal weapons hardpoints that means you need one or the other depending on which load-out you want to run?

Yeah you're right. One is more angular and blocky, the other is smoother.

Canis Rex is going to be like Skarbrand and Fateweaver, anyone who thinks otherwise is silly.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Yeah you're right. One is more angular and blocky, the other is smoother.

Yep, panel lines are different, the carapace armor directly above the head is not split --actually, even the outer helmet surrounding the head is different between the two knight variants--as is the cod piece (at least I think it is that cog symbol looks molded on rather than some glued-on bling)

This is very curious...

 Crazyterran wrote:
Canis Rex is going to be like Skarbrand and Fateweaver, anyone who thinks otherwise is silly.

What do you mean? Skarbrand comes in his own box, while Fateweaver shares the box with the LoC.

Ah, I mean like Skarbrand, then. I remembered the GUO came in a combo with the Special Character, forgot that the LoC did as well.

There would be a lot of logic to making him a conversion kit, but GW don’t really do those much anymore.

I think the imperial tank commander is an upgrade sprue, which is quite new.

It makes no odds to me - I’d need a new Knight for this guy to sit in anyway, so it might as well be an entire kit in a box.

He could also work like the Wazbomm Blastajet - just all the sprues for the regular knight, plus a bonus sprue.

 Jidmah wrote:
He could also work like the Wazbomm Blastajet - just all the sprues for the regular knight, plus a bonus sprue.

I believe unless they duplicate the fist on the character sprue, that's how they'll have to do it.

tneva82 wrote:

gendoikari87 wrote:
Guys it's called eBay, armigers are $35 bucks there from Forgebane

Yes. And unless the kit with knight house shoulder pads are 35$ the knight house players who don't want mechanicum shoulder pads have to pay more. So back to my point. If you are knight house player you are disadvantaged over mechanicum player.

the ever loving hell are you talking about? the armiger shoulder pads are not mechanicum specific.

Actually, the Warglaive armoured panels and pieces are mechanicus specific, big old cog pattern along the rim more or less gives it away.



Whereas the Helverins have smoother shoulder rims and different armour panels on the legs and feet:

 BrookM wrote:
Actually, the Warglaive armoured panels and pieces are mechanicus specific, big old cog pattern along the rim more or less gives it away.



Whereas the Helverins have smoother shoulder rims and different armour panels on the legs and feet:

Those are called crenelations and are not necessarily mechanicus specific. REMOVED

and if it still bothers you that much, there are these things, you might have heard of, called files.