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gendoikari87 wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

gendoikari87 wrote:
Guys it's called eBay, armigers are $35 bucks there from Forgebane

Yes. And unless the kit with knight house shoulder pads are 35$ the knight house players who don't want mechanicum shoulder pads have to pay more. So back to my point. If you are knight house player you are disadvantaged over mechanicum player.

the ever loving hell are you talking about? the armiger shoulder pads are not mechanicum specific.

GW themselves use these shoulders on non-Mechanicus armigers in their teaser video for the castelan where there are house Teryn(?) armigers matching the castelan and they certainly don't look out of place like they are from a separate army or something. Really, the lack of mask over the robot head is a bigger dividing stylistic difference.

gendoikari87 wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Actually, the Warglaive armoured panels and pieces are mechanicus specific, big old cog pattern along the rim more or less gives it away.



Whereas the Helverins have smoother shoulder rims and different armour panels on the legs and feet:

Those are called crenelations and are not necessarily mechanicus specific. REMOVED

and if it still bothers you that much, there are these things, you might have heard of, called files.

Very disproportionate response, but yeah. Cog pattern is hardly out of place on a non-Mechanicus Knight (they’re still big robots after all). They’re only Mechanicus specific if you want them to be.

From Faeit

EDIT:



From GWs facebook page

So is Renegade two Wardens kits or is it a paladin and warden kit like last time?

 Crazyterran wrote:
So is Renegade two Wardens kits or is it a paladin and warden kit like last time?

The only stated change was to the terrain in the box. Given the configuration of the two Knights in the stand alone game also, I think it's pretty safe to assume 1x Warden kit, 1x Paladin just as before.

Valiant and Castellan listed separately?

I'm taking those prices with a lot of salt. The Castellan is huge, but only a bit more than a regular Knight?

Renegade looks alright if it comes to about that price though. 2 IK comes to about £200.

The price for Renegade is the same as the previous one, 120 quid or €165,-

 anyname121 wrote:
I'm taking those prices with a lot of salt. The Castellan is huge, but only a bit more than a regular Knight?

Renegade looks alright if it comes to about that price though. 2 IK comes to about £200.

The thing that confuses me about the pricing sheet is the armiger Helverin. do they mean warglaive/Helverin, or is the helverin it's own kit?

Edit: as also mentioned the valiant and the castellan are also separate, and with no mention of the warglaive on the same sheet it looks like they may actually be getting separate releases.

also ouch on that heleverin price tag.

If the prices are true, some quick comparisons show that the Helverins per two are as much as a Land Raider or a flipping Ghostkeel.

The new Knights are as much as a Cadian Defence Force..!

There goes the budget in one fell swoop then.

Helverins is two per box, seen somewhere.

Valiant and Castellan may be listed differently but contain the same? Like the Paladin, Warden, etc. But, that’s the same price as the crusader, isn’t it? Hat seems surprising given the size.

wanzer777 wrote:

also ouch on that heleverin price tag.

That's the price for two, as they come in boxes of two. At least that's my understanding.

And probably with all sprues included.

Hopefully!

Given the size of the model £45 would be a good* price for one Armiger, it’s significantly larger than a dreadnought.

*within GW pricing bands

I actually expected to be paying more...

 MrDwhitey wrote:
I actually expected to be paying more...

I feared more for the Castellan.

That house Raven trait is really good if you like the shooty Knights


Do we know if the Renegade box is a permanent stock item or limited like last time?

I need to get some of those Inferno cannon arms and tack them on one of my Stompa's.

Love to see that mention of Gorkamorka... That is a deal maker for me!!!

changemod wrote:
Given the size of the model £45 would be a good* price for one Armiger, it’s significantly larger than a dreadnought.

*within GW pricing bands

It’s £45 for two. Notice the promotional photos show two in the same picture, and the listing says “Armiger Helverins” (note the “s”)

 Mymearan wrote:

changemod wrote:
Given the size of the model £45 would be a good* price for one Armiger, it’s significantly larger than a dreadnought.

*within GW pricing bands

It’s £45 for two. Notice the promotional photos show two in the same picture, and the listing says “Armiger Helverins” (note the “s”)

Yes.

That would be why I was pointing out it would still be a good price for one, given the model size.

GoatboyBeta wrote:
That house Raven trait is really good if you like the shooty Knights


Do we know if the Renegade box is a permanent stock item or limited like last time?

I guess like Lost Patrol and Gangs of Comorragh, reprinted for as long as estimated sales allow it / GW wants to offer it.

That game would be great to play floorhammer with, as your rolling tank companies and knights against the hordes... on a school Gym floor.
Not long now, before we start hearing about that 5 ft tall Imperator titan.

 Grot 6 wrote:
That game would be great to play floorhammer with, as your rolling tank companies and knights against the hordes... on a school Gym floor.
Not long now, before we start hearing about that 5 ft tall Imperator titan.

The Blackadder is way ahead of you over on his plog...

 Mushkilla wrote:

wanzer777 wrote:

also ouch on that heleverin price tag.

That's the price for two, as they come in boxes of two. At least that's my understanding.

if this is true I'd like to know who at GW i can send my love and adoration to.

WHO DO I THROW MONEY AT TO GET THESE?!?!

VonTed wrote:
WHO DO I THROW MONEY AT TO GET THESE?!?!

Preferably, your local store.

 ImAGeek wrote:

gendoikari87 wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Actually, the Warglaive armoured panels and pieces are mechanicus specific, big old cog pattern along the rim more or less gives it away.



Whereas the Helverins have smoother shoulder rims and different armour panels on the legs and feet:

Those are called crenelations and are not necessarily mechanicus specific. REMOVED

and if it still bothers you that much, there are these things, you might have heard of, called files.

Very disproportionate response, but yeah. Cog pattern is hardly out of place on a non-Mechanicus Knight (they’re still big robots after all). They’re only Mechanicus specific if you want them to be.

I'm actually planning on using the cogs from my Warglaive and a non-cog pad from the Helverin to give each a kind of Techmarine styled look.

The lack of masks is fine. Armigers are meant to be the 'minions' of the Knights proper. Makes sense that they don't get the 'full knight' treatment.

I think I'm going to file the cogs into spikes to 'renegade' them up a bit.

Omg GW just take my money, I thought I was good with Knights then Armigers and now Valiants and Castellans.

I'm really excited about this release. I can't wait to build a knight house or two.

But am I the only one who thinks Armigers kinda look bad? They really suffer from not having a knight helmet I think.