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I pre-ordered these months ago, they’ve not had to take them off shelves to give me. If people are too slow to order then I don’t honestly feel bad because I got a bunch.

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:


This is one of those times where I feel that GW/hatchette/forbidden planet should have limited the amount of copies that one customer could buy, but I'm not sure how that could be enforced.

The ones that I feel deserve a slapping are the people who stick the sprues on Ebay at twice the cost, then claim they're being altruistic by letting people get hold of the models who couldn't find them in shops. Of course they couldn't find them; you've snaffled them all!

 Azazelx wrote:

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:

can't blame you for wanting to get a bargain, but at the same time I'm betting that the majority of people that bought multiple copies are planning to ebay some or all of them.
And why not? It's a free country, and that's how capitalism works.
At the same time I can't help but feel sorry for all of the people who wanted one and haven't been able to get one.
This is one of those times where I feel that GW/hatchette/forbidden planet should have limited the amount of copies that one customer could buy, but I'm not sure how that could be enforced.

I'm getting multiples of many various issues, but then I've given my newsagent a list/order for how many of each issue as they come out for the first 30 (we'll up to #11 today). If it wasn't for me, they wouldn't be stocking it at all. I have to assume there are more people in a similar situation with an "order" in at their local.

Anyone with a direct sub (or multiple subs) isn't preventing anyone from getting anything. The only potential problem would be if a newsagents were getting in a few each week for randoms to buy, but with partworks, I feel like by the time you get to issue 41 most casual purchasers will be long gone.

I’m a casual purchaser, I pick them up from forbidden planet whenever an issue drops that has good content, like the chaos rhino and a few of the characters. Incidentally I did order the PBC issues online as I guessed that they might be more difficult to find.




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 AndrewGPaul wrote:

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:


This is one of those times where I feel that GW/hatchette/forbidden planet should have limited the amount of copies that one customer could buy, but I'm not sure how that could be enforced.

The ones that I feel deserve a slapping are the people who stick the sprues on Ebay at twice the cost, then claim they're being altruistic by letting people get hold of the models who couldn't find them in shops. Of course they couldn't find them; you've snaffled them all!

Yeah, rightly or wrongly that’s exactly the thought that goes through my mind when I hear of people buying 5 copies of each.

If you're gong to do that, then just do it; it's the dishonest justification that annoys me more, really.

On the other hand, buying five for personal use is fine; I can definitely understand the preference to simply have multiple models instead of magnetising, for all sorts of reasons.

 AndrewGPaul wrote:
If you're gong to do that, then just do it; it's the dishonest justification that annoys me more, really.

On the other hand, buying five for personal use is fine; I can definitely understand the preference to simply have multiple models instead of magnetising, for all sorts of reasons.

When I think of how easy it is to magnetise a small gun option, compared to painting multiple extra tank models, I don't really understand the argument to be honest, but maybe I'm missing something here.

It's just fiddly and annoying; perhaps some people prefer assembling and painting to drilling a million holes.

There's also a visual aspect - it's quite often obvious that a part is magnetised, which may be a problem. Or perhaps the position of the magnetised parts makes picking up the model awkward.

Yeah it depends on what your favourite part of the hobby is, mine is painting. There’s also a new version of Apocalypse on the way which won’t be worrying us with the rule of 3.

I really don’t see the issue with getting a bunch of the same thing, it creates demand, and without demand there’s not going to be any more of these after this 80 issue run. Everyone who has access to the internet has been able to pre-order these for months. Anyone relying on getting these in shops is liable to be disappointed as these will no doubt be two of the hottest selling issues, and people will just buy every one they can from shelves. If people are so scared of missing out, they can always subscribe and guarantee themselves one of each issue.

Anyone notice that on the uk site at least,a lot of the older issues aren't even available to order anymore.Wonder if GW said enough is enough?

 AndrewGPaul wrote:
If you're gong to do that, then just do it; it's the dishonest justification that annoys me more, really.

On the other hand, buying five for personal use is fine; I can definitely understand the preference to simply have multiple models instead of magnetising, for all sorts of reasons.

Especially as it's still possible to use more than 3 anyway. 4 is available right away at bigger battles and if you play 6k+ type of game is rule of 3 really going to be enforced? Especially as it's rule of 4 at one point anyway.


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 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:

 AndrewGPaul wrote:
If you're gong to do that, then just do it; it's the dishonest justification that annoys me more, really.

On the other hand, buying five for personal use is fine; I can definitely understand the preference to simply have multiple models instead of magnetising, for all sorts of reasons.

When I think of how easy it is to magnetise a small gun option, compared to painting multiple extra tank models, I don't really understand the argument to be honest, but maybe I'm missing something here.

Something I have noticed with magnetizing storing the spare parts is PITA. More pieces to have around and in danger of being lost. Couple that to magnetized model being just 1 for games while 2 allows you to field 2...

duanimal wrote:
Anyone notice that on the uk site at least,a lot of the older issues aren't even available to order anymore.Wonder if GW said enough is enough?

I assume that their contract between each other specified X amount of thousands of sprues to be made for each issue. Once those are gone they are gone, no churning out more coloured sprues.

I think the true test of how GW sees the relationship as having gone is if we get an AOS version of Conquest.

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:


I think the true test of how GW sees the relationship as having gone is if we get an AOS version of Conquest.

Don't be concerned, GW corporate very much approves of Hachette Publishing and this program, and Hachette broke even on their own costs months ago. Rumour has it (from GW sources) an AoS version is well under way.

Who is the major partner in this? I mean, the parent Hachette Book Group dwarfs GW, but I'm not sure how far down the tree Hachette Partworks is.

Presumably the AOS version will be Stormcast vs Nighthaunt, which is a shame as I have no love for either of those factions.

Hopefully it will happen further on down the line after a new edition, if it was something like Slaves to Darkness vs Free Peoples using totally new sculpts I would cream myself, but the chance of that happening is prolly less than zero

Further down the line, yeah maybe it won’t be Nighthaunt.
It would definitely be Stormcast though..

Though it will be, those current ETB kits won’t be going anywhere for a while.
And as with Conquest, them and a chunk of starter Set stuff, that sets you up for quite a lot of issues.
Nighthaunt are set up nicely for it.

 AndrewGPaul wrote:
It's just fiddly and annoying; perhaps some people prefer assembling and painting to drilling a million holes.

There's also a visual aspect - it's quite often obvious that a part is magnetised, which may be a problem. Or perhaps the position of the magnetised parts makes picking up the model awkward.

Reasons to not magnetise a model (some apply to me, some don't)
Need to buy magnets
Need to convert models
Need to store extra weapons (if you have a cabinet to display your models, what do you do with the weapons? Stick them in a drawer? Place them lamely on the shelf next to the parent model?)
Models with moving parts are inherently more unstable
Wear and tear around the parts that you're attaching / detaching
Instead of having two glorious Warlords, one with volcanoes, one with sunfurys, you instead have one Warlord alone.

Yeah GW have their own publishing arm and do White Dwarf which has circulation in newsagents. If this goes well, if I'm GW I'm certainly asking if I *need* Hachette for a future release - especially if I'm getting feedback from customers that their service levels leave something to be desired.

It went well before, yet they still got someone else to do Conquest.

They won’t give themselves a load of extra work (the WD team is small for a start, they are downsizing it not increasing in recent years), when they can just let someone else do it and get given money for little effort.

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:

I’m a casual purchaser, I pick them up from forbidden planet whenever an issue drops that has good content, like the chaos rhino and a few of the characters. Incidentally I did order the PBC issues online as I guessed that they might be more difficult to find.

That's fair enough, but in that situation you takes your chances. I went through the release list and decided in advance how many of each I want, and gave that list to the newsagents, since it's easy to see and decide what I want.



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 AndrewGPaul wrote:

The ones that I feel deserve a slapping are the people who stick the sprues on Ebay at twice the cost, then claim they're being altruistic by letting people get hold of the models who couldn't find them in shops. Of course they couldn't find them; you've snaffled them all!

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:


Yeah, rightly or wrongly that’s exactly the thought that goes through my mind when I hear of people buying 5 copies of each.

Well, except for the magazine and a couple(?) of the issues - (Primaris Lt and ...?) all of the models are available from GW at the standard price, so finding the models should be pretty easy for anyone. The magazines for beginners might be a different story, though...


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 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
Presumably the AOS version will be Stormcast vs Nighthaunt, which is a shame as I have no love for either of those factions.
Hopefully it will happen further on down the line after a new edition, if it was something like Slaves to Darkness vs Free Peoples using totally new sculpts I would cream myself, but the chance of that happening is prolly less than zero

Well, you're guaranteed that one faction will be s̶p̶a̶c̶e̶ ̶m̶a̶r̶i̶n̶e̶s̶ Stormcast, regardless of who the second is...


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JWBS wrote:

 AndrewGPaul wrote:
It's just fiddly and annoying; perhaps some people prefer assembling and painting to drilling a million holes.

There's also a visual aspect - it's quite often obvious that a part is magnetised, which may be a problem. Or perhaps the position of the magnetised parts makes picking up the model awkward.

Reasons to not magnetise a model (some apply to me, some don't)
Need to buy magnets
Need to convert models
Need to store extra weapons (if you have a cabinet to display your models, what do you do with the weapons? Stick them in a drawer? Place them lamely on the shelf next to the parent model?)
Models with moving parts are inherently more unstable
Wear and tear around the parts that you're attaching / detaching
Instead of having two glorious Warlords, one with volcanoes, one with sunfurys, you instead have one Warlord alone.

I magnetise things like vehicle weapons, turrets, cupolas, dreadnought arms, drop pod doors.

I don't magnetise things like infantry heavy or soecial weapons, heads, etc.

I might be tempted to magnetise some weapons/loadout (ie, jump pack) on a hero model, in some circumstances.

JWBS wrote:

Reasons to not magnetise a model (some apply to me, some don't)
...
Models with moving parts are inherently more unstable

Oh, heck yes. I was at a Horus heresy event over the weekend, using my new Palatine Blades with magnetised optional jump packs. Every time I went to pick them up or move them, the jump packs moved or fell off.

All the remaining issues are now up on forbidden planet. Images are for up to issue 56.

Yeah, just ordered the last 7 that I know I will want.

Ends up nicely spaced, a magazine every 3-4 weeks

FYI - Just got an email from them:

Hachette wrote:We are experiencing delays sending out your latest dispatch

Dear subscriber,

Unfortunately, over the last week, we have been experiencing delays at our distribution centre which have affected your subscription to Warhammer 40,000: Conquest.

We are very sorry about this but can assure you that your copies will be processed on Monday 24th June and will be delivered by the end of that week.
We would like to thank you for your understanding.

Yours sincerely,
Hachette Partworks Ltd

Just had the same, at least we should get them next week.

Also had that mail, probably affecting all UK subs. I've lost track of when stuff should arrive now.

phillv85 wrote:
Also had that mail, probably affecting all UK subs. I've lost track of when stuff should arrive now.

Mine normally arrives on the thursday or friday after the release of the last of the 4 issues included. so, for example with this delivery I would normally receive it yesterday or today as the last in the set of 4 was released on wednesday the 19th. It has been pretty regular for a few months now for me. On the flip side though I have also got an email about delayed dispatch for this set.

I dont mind it being late, Its not like I have an empty project desk anyway!!!!

beast_gts wrote:
FYI - Just got an email from them:

Hachette wrote:We are experiencing delays sending out your latest dispatch

Dear subscriber,

Unfortunately, over the last week, we have been experiencing delays at our distribution centre which have affected your subscription to Warhammer 40,000: Conquest.

We are very sorry about this but can assure you that your copies will be processed on Monday 24th June and will be delivered by the end of that week.
We would like to thank you for your understanding.

Yours sincerely,
Hachette Partworks Ltd

I guess that is the reason why it has taken 3 weeks to deliver the few earlier issues i ordered at start of the month!

No letter/email or delivery for me, if nothing by next weekend I'll call them.

Delayed email here too, have been working on another project so the last two deliveries are essentially unbuilt so no skin off the nose here.

hopefully it arrives this week as Mrs L. is at home, the week after shes escaping for a week

mine arrived today so Its only a small delay to deliveries.

If we do get another one (40K or AoS) will be interesting to see if they go the Contrast route for painting too.