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 pancakeonions wrote:

Mutter wrote:

That abomination model is awful... Jeez....

Great dashboard!

Those two comments absolutely sum up the stuff shown so far for me ...

Haha, it's like two different teams are making this game. One is the BEST team ever and I LOVE THEM and the other are jerks bent on killing puppies, taking candy from babies, and sucking the fun out of everything

Zombicide: Election Season?

Exactly.

Wow, first Zombicide game I won't back. In fact, just went and bought a Season 1 core box to use as an actual board game night box set, ie don't paint anything in it.

~iPaint

 PsychoticStorm wrote:

 Azazelx wrote:

 PsychoticStorm wrote:
Wait what? ammo box and ammo belt? with no ejection ports?
Seriously?

Maybe it's caseless ammo?

Unfortunately the bullets have ejection extractor rims, also why have them in a loose belt?

yeah, I was deliberately ignoring those. The sad fact is that so many artists that illustrate and/or design "mooks with guns" don't know how guns actually work.


Or how people actually hold or shoot them for that matter - ie trigger discipline.

Even today.

 Col Hammer wrote:

 Moopy wrote:
This is Zombicide. Where are the zombies?

Pass.

The aliens are zombies. They have been infected with a mold that makes them agressive.

Rage Zombies (like in 28 days later) are still considered a type of Zombie even if they are not undead. These mold-infected aliens are clearly Rage Zombies.

No. Rage victims are alive. Zombies are not alive. 28 Days later was a terrific infection movie. It wasn't a zombie movie.

Zombicide has always been about undead. This clearly isn't it.

If they want to make Xenocide or some such then go for it.

Still pass.

 Moopy wrote:

 Col Hammer wrote:

 Moopy wrote:
This is Zombicide. Where are the zombies?

Pass.

The aliens are zombies. They have been infected with a mold that makes them agressive.

Rage Zombies (like in 28 days later) are still considered a type of Zombie even if they are not undead. These mold-infected aliens are clearly Rage Zombies.

No. Rage victims are alive. Zombies are not alive. 28 Days later was a terrific infection movie. It wasn't a zombie movie.

Zombicide has always been about undead. This clearly isn't it.

If they want to make Xenocide or some such then go for it.

Still pass.

You don't have to be undead to be considered a zombie. That is just the most common type of a zombie. The original voodoo zombies were not undead, just without willpower of their own, eg. mindless.
Rage zombies are considered a type of zombie and they are not undead. This zombicide obviously has rage zombies instead of the typical sufflers.

And anyway, we haven't been actually told if the aliens are still dead or alive, have we? Maybe the mold actually kills the host and reanimates it, thus they are zombies?

Still would’ve greatly preferred a space ship with a not-ET, not-Yoda, not-Klingon, not-Predator, etc.. crash-landing on Zombie-Earth and needing to survive, reach a comms station, etc...

Could’ve also been more compatible with older zombicide tiles/zombie-minis.

Sunny Side Up wrote:
Still would’ve greatly preferred a space ship with a not-ET, not-Yoda, not-Klingon, not-Predator, etc.. crash-landing on Zombie-Earth and needing to survive, reach a comms station, etc...

Could’ve also been more compatible with older zombicide tiles/zombie-minis.

So, basically, you would have wanted the game to have the same street map pieces and the same zombie sculpts as the original Z-side? Just with ET, Gremlin and whatnot being the heroes? Sounds kind of bland.

I'm happy that when the Z-side went to space, they really went to space. You can play your scenario with the original Z-side box contents (maps and Zekes). It doesn't really even need any new rules.

Let's see what kind of KSE heroes we are getting in the campaign. Maybe you get your ET and others? Altough judging from the new graphics style, CMON might not go that way with the campaign. We'll see in one week when the KS starts, I suppose.

 Col Hammer wrote:

 Moopy wrote:

 Col Hammer wrote:

 Moopy wrote:
This is Zombicide. Where are the zombies?

Pass.

The aliens are zombies. They have been infected with a mold that makes them agressive.

Rage Zombies (like in 28 days later) are still considered a type of Zombie even if they are not undead. These mold-infected aliens are clearly Rage Zombies.

No. Rage victims are alive. Zombies are not alive. 28 Days later was a terrific infection movie. It wasn't a zombie movie.

Zombicide has always been about undead. This clearly isn't it.

If they want to make Xenocide or some such then go for it.

Still pass.

You don't have to be undead to be considered a zombie. That is just the most common type of a zombie. The original voodoo zombies were not undead, just without willpower of their own, eg. mindless.
Rage zombies are considered a type of zombie and they are not undead. This zombicide obviously has rage zombies instead of the typical sufflers.

And anyway, we haven't been actually told if the aliens are still dead or alive, have we? Maybe the mold actually kills the host and reanimates it, thus they are zombies?

No. Rage "zombies" were just sick people. I just got over a chest cold that almost gave me pneumonia. Did that make me a zombie? No.

It means I was sick. Infected. Nothing more.

There's a huge difference in the plot of something (how they act) and what they are. You might as well call these ghosts, or sharks, because that's about as accurate as calling them zombies.

BOT...

I don't get how the quality has done such a swing for the worse in this one. CMON is a machine, that produces a lot of fun stuff. They have sculptures, concept artists, etc; an entire art pipeline. This abomination is terrabad. Everything else is average, nothing stands out as exciting. I pretty much went all in on Fire & Ice, Black Plague: Green Horde and HATE, but I have zero interest in pulling out my wallet for this one. Even the mold doesn't look scary.

If your chest cold made you mad with rage and made you eat people then yes, you were a rage zombie. Glad you got better.

Launch Trailer

https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/983449481667465217

“Together we can repel!” No truer words have been spoken about this campaign

Sad it could have been so much more under a proper art direction.

The xenos look crappy. Like what Adrian Smith did for Rising Sun and Hate though. I'll likely pledge given the awesome stuff CMON can do with the stretch goal characters.

It's a tough choice because of the awesome SF II KS and the Fireball Island KS. I'd like to pledge all three but with the Sea Elves too, I'm limited on funds.

Yeah, I think the stretches and (most likely) piles of add ons are going to be what get me to back this.

Still want to see some sort of Xenoshyft or Sedition Wars references.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Yeah, I think the stretches and (most likely) piles of add ons are going to be what get me to back this.

Still want to see some sort of Xenoshyft or Sedition Wars references.

Agreed. The core game is ... lacking.
Let's see what the stretch goals add.

I'll be watching this one. I'd be willing to buy in if I end up liking the gameplay and a good number of the KS exclusive heroes and larger monster sculpts.

I'm not smitten by any of the core set sculpts so far, and some, like the abomination, are terrible. But for me, that's equally true of the core set figures from Zombicide Black Plague, I game I supported on KS and have since really enjoyed. I'm not a fan of Zombicide: Black Plague's signature art style, but I do like a lot of the less cartoony KS exclusive hero figures, and I love the larger monster abominations that the sculptor, Jason Hendricks, designed himself. Most importantly, Black Plague plays well, and my family enjoys it.

Yes, the art direction for Z: Invasion could and should have been better, but while there are alternative Sci-Fi dungeon crawls, none of them quite scratches the same itch for me. I own Mantic's Star Saga. I like just about all of the figures it comes with, and me and my son are really enjoying playing it. But I miss CMON's higher production values, like plastic storage compartments that don't break easily, stable game boards, and those endlessly useful plastic character dashboards to keep player inventories, stats, and XP points organized. Damn, but I wish Mantic would copy those dashboards. (As far as figure quality goes, it's a bit of a draw. ZBP's single-cast figures have better detail and firmness, but Star Saga's miniatures, being multi-part and pre-assembled, are much better posed.)

I know my family will play Zombicide, so give me something close to a 40-50% hit ratio on Invasion's figures and some good gameplay tweaks, and that could be enough to reel me in. We'll see.

Miniatures painted by Ruben Martinez, David Arroba, and Rodrigo Cipres.

Individual Survivors and Aliens

It's live

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cmon/zombicide-invader/description

2 pledge levels - the $150 doesn't seem worth it the expansion on it's own isn't worth an extra $50 I wonder if this level will get extra stretch goals?

Love the look of that expansion, especially that 12 players mechanic. Quite enjoy that abomination too

Here's to hoping the next ones look more "alien" though

EDIT: The Soldier Pledge will be getting exclusives not available to the Civilian Pledge, based on the Black Plague Huntsman and Knight pledge levels

I really was not expecting it to go full 40k.....

The big abom alien looks like a mix of Sedition Wars and this guy...



with Patrick Star's head of course.

For those of you that are surprised at the change in art direction, etc. you need to remember (as I understand it), after Black Plague, Guillotine Games sold the IP rights for Zombicide to CMON...so where CMON used to just be the publishing house and took care of logistics and distribution, they are now doing design in-house and are in control of everything...and Guillotine Games is only involved as much as CMON is willing to pay for consulting, or hire individuals to freelance on it. I haven't done all of the research to see which artists they used (besides Adrian Smith), or which sculptors they used...but Id be willing to bet the team working on this is not the same team that worked on past Zombicide games.

So 20 minutes in and it has only $50,000 over it's funding goal. Much, much slower then previous campaigns. Keeping an eye on it but not sold yet (and that's coming from someone who has every single Zombicide release to date including all the hard to track down regional exclusive survivors and game night kits).

None of the power armored people are sellers by me on the game. Only the human civilians and the Juggernaut looks good. The workers are passable, but the rest are below my tastes....and I like rivets.

 Theophony wrote:
None of the power armored people are sellers by me on the game. Only the human civilians and the Juggernaut looks good. The workers are passable, but the rest are below my tastes....and I like rivets.

The Black Ops are at least better looking than the core game power armored people, though I agree the civilians are all better

First stretch goal has been passed -

The Black Ops survivors look great and the aliens do look better painted up than they did in the previews. I’m not sold on this yet, but I’m keeping an eye on it.

If it sticks at $25k intervals for now there should be 4 more unlocked. Guaranteed to include extra aliens at some point and hopefully extras of the sentry guns and robots (i'm looking beyond Zc:I for some of this stuff)

If a Mod is wandering by can they update the OP?

First alien survivor unlocked, I'm liking what I'm seeing