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Sigh it is really so bad... nothing redeemable on it.

Civilian survivors are ok, they also seem to depart from the artwork.

I've backed everything zombicide from their first kickstarter... and loved everything (the art, minis, gameplay, etc). Both Zombicide and black plague have the same art style and realistic minis that don't reflect the cartoonist nature of the art (unlike massive darkness, where the art is slightly different and the minis reflect the cartoon nature).

I was excited for this theme... and so far I like the base alien sculpts and civilian sculpts. On the other hand, the abomination, chunky power armor, and art is very bad. I'm surprised they would release this (they usually have a core set prototype finished before they do a kickstarter).

The art is blood rage style which doesn't fit zombicide or the minis at all. The power armor is ugly, chunky, and looks unfinished. That abomination looks like my three year old son designed it. Yeesh cmon, I hope you listed to constructive criticism and are willing to change this stuff.

They should have had art like the previous zombicides, power armor similar to star craft, and an abomission that looks more... well not like that.

The art is bloodrage style/ the others style because it is the same artist.

Maybe this is all being done poorly on purpose...to finally put a knife in the Zombicide product line so they can move on to new stuff.

 DaveC wrote:

So, loads of hate for the abomination above.

But then people quite willingly buy this...?

https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/920x950/99129915044_BeastofNurgle01.jpg

Have an exalt Gimgamgoo

It’s almost as if the forum is made up of a variety of individuals with differing tastes and opinions!

I haven't bought either, but even if I Had I would still make fun of them. However, whataboutism with GW minis doesn't do anything to make Zombiecide Invasion look better.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
However, whataboutism with GW minis doesn't do anything to make Zombiecide Invasion look better.

Nah, Gimgamgoo's post was funny and it certainly helps air out the thread a bit from all the hyperbolic complaints like calling the minis "garbage" or stating they have "nothing redeemable" (LOL).

The same folks gaking on the game page after page is getting tired. Why are you guys even here if you don't like the look of the models, the art, etc.?

Just hate posting?

If that is the case then bring on the strawmen, feth it.

 DarkTraveler777 wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
However, whataboutism with GW minis doesn't do anything to make Zombiecide Invasion look better.

Nah, Gimgamgoo's post was funny and it certainly helps air out the thread a bit from all the hyperbolic complaints like calling the minis "garbage" or stating they have "nothing redeemable" (LOL).

The same folks gaking on the game page after page is getting tired. Why are you guys even here if you don't like the look of the models, the art, etc.?

Just hate posting?

If that is the case then bring on the strawmen, feth it.

Wow.
We are voicing our opinions on a game we enjoy and expressing our concerns about what we dislike. Sometimes people discuss what they dislike as much as they discuss what they Do like , and on a forum it’s allowed.

If you don’t like how we are talking about the game, then why don’t you go to the CMoN page and hang out there. I think you should remember that WE are allowed to be in here as much as YOU!

Oh and the abomination is trash

That chaos spawn is supposed to look silly and it's still way more believable than this thing. Just look at those legs and imagine it trying to walk...

It just looks like some 8 year old edgelord tried to make Patrick Starr look hardcore.

I do like the Ripley homage tho.

 PsychoticStorm wrote:
Wait what? ammo box and ammo belt? with no ejection ports?

Seriously?

Maybe it's caseless ammo?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caseless_ammunition


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 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 DaveC wrote:
The last few CMON KS have all required the purchase of a core pledge before you can get add ons, you could piggy back someone’s pledge for a tile pack or it will probably go to retail the Green Horde one will be available retail.

Hmm... I've ordered extra tiles in the previous three main Zombicide Kickstarters, but as I bought everything else it never occurred to me that you needed the base pledge. Thanks for the heads up.

I'll see what I can figure out when the time comes.

The game would *probably* be worth getting for the gameplay, even if the figures and mobs are a bit ...subpar this time. Even if you piggybacked on someone else's pledge, you'd need to pay Aust Post's hideous rates to send the tiles to you, which would probably cost a fortune. Cost me almost $30 to send a 40k rulebook from Melb to Hobart...

 Theophony wrote:

 DarkTraveler777 wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
However, whataboutism with GW minis doesn't do anything to make Zombiecide Invasion look better.

Nah, Gimgamgoo's post was funny and it certainly helps air out the thread a bit from all the hyperbolic complaints like calling the minis "garbage" or stating they have "nothing redeemable" (LOL).

The same folks gaking on the game page after page is getting tired. Why are you guys even here if you don't like the look of the models, the art, etc.?

Just hate posting?

If that is the case then bring on the strawmen, feth it.

Wow.
We are voicing our opinions on a game we enjoy and expressing our concerns about what we dislike. Sometimes people discuss what they dislike as much as they discuss what they Do like , and on a forum it’s allowed.

If you don’t like how we are talking about the game, then why don’t you go to the CMoN page and hang out there. I think you should remember that WE are allowed to be in here as much as YOU!

Oh and the abomination is trash

I would say it's probably fairly likely that, with the reveals made so far, there isn't going to be a complete 180 on design and the game or miniatures will suddenly transform into something you like the look of. That's why I find it a little bit odd why the same 3-4 people are just posting page about how much they dislike the art style/sculpts/zombie style yet seem compelled to keep returning here day after day.

What is expected to be seen here? "First 7 pages of the thread have been dreadful, but hang on a second there will be a sculpt soon that convinces me to spend £100+ on the KS and all of the optional extras!"

I expect I will be picking this up at retail (don't do KS's any more after Robotech implosion).

I'm meh about the "zombies", they have a Quake sort of vibe to them. If I end up not liking them, I'll replace the "zombies" with (Prodos) Aliens. Abomination = Queen.

 Azazelx wrote:

 PsychoticStorm wrote:
Wait what? ammo box and ammo belt? with no ejection ports?

Seriously?

Maybe it's caseless ammo?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caseless_ammunition

Unfortunately the bullets have ejection extractor rims, also why have them in a loose belt?

I think the negative comments are about the same in their FB page too...

 PsychoticStorm wrote:

 Azazelx wrote:

 PsychoticStorm wrote:
Wait what? ammo box and ammo belt? with no ejection ports?

Seriously?

Maybe it's caseless ammo?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caseless_ammunition

Unfortunately the bullets have ejection extractor rims, also why have them in a loose belt?

I think the negative comments are about the same in their FB page too...

The loose belt seems to be grenade launcher ammo. The ammo loads into the underbarrel attachment and the ammo itself is bigger than the boxed ammo in the picture. Unfortunatedly in the miniature the boxed ammo and the belt ammo looks to be of the same size...

In other words, who knows?

Since there are no ejector ports in the guns, the FutureGun technology recycles the spent cases and turns them into breath mints or something?

(and yes, I realise our modern guns do not recycle the spent cases into breath mints, but instead wastefully ejects them from the ejector ports... )

Point is, except ammo belts not working like that, why have exposed ammo if yo can have it boxed nice and safe.

 PsychoticStorm wrote:
Point is, except ammo belts not working like that, why have exposed ammo if yo can have it boxed nice and safe.

Well, if it works for the Chaos Space Marines, it works for the Norwegians too?

I think we have resigned on making sense in GW artwork a long time ago, I understand it is a GW artist who never managed to produce anything but artwork fit for a GWesque universe, this is not set in a GW universe.

 PsychoticStorm wrote:
Point is, except ammo belts not working like that, why have exposed ammo if yo can have it boxed nice and safe.

Happens all over - you should see some Infinity models!

While I hope there's still time to change some things here, CMON Kickstarter campaigns feel more like a fait accompli than most, and everything is at least already...98% done, with the remaining 2% being how many 'free' miniatures are unlocked via the overall pledge total.

I'm 50:50 on this. The Abomination, the runners, and the power armour survivors just aren't good enough, but I quite like the tanks, walkers, and the other three survivors.

I can't imagine the promos being quite as hit and miss, so I'll probably end up backing for them in the end.

I do wonder what the expansions and add-ons might be though. A different enemy in the form of another alien species, perhaps? Curious to see. Although this will probably be the first CMON art book that I don't fancy buying.

 Mysterio wrote:

Happens all over - you should see some Infinity models!

At least that is on the side, as it should be and the weapon has ejection ports and it is a heavy machinegun.

Not a low fire rate, heavy calibre secondary weapon.

New dashboard looks fine would also work well with modern by the looks of it.

Now that does look ace..

Think the dashboards are one of the coolest elements of the Zombicide games, for BP especially.

 TalonZahn wrote:

 Nostromodamus wrote:
Wow, that is trash.

Was it the Neck Nipples or the Boob Rock that displeased you most?

It was the hot cross crotch buns. What are those even supposed to be?

There have to be some good memes to develop from that guy.

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That abomination model is awful... Jeez....

Great dashboard!

That abomination model is awful... Jeez....

Great dashboard!

Those two comments absolutely sum up the stuff shown so far for me ...

Mutter wrote:

That abomination model is awful... Jeez....

Great dashboard!

Those two comments absolutely sum up the stuff shown so far for me ...

Haha, it's like two different teams are making this game. One is the BEST team ever and I LOVE THEM and the other are jerks bent on killing puppies, taking candy from babies, and sucking the fun out of everything