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Awesome. I can't wait to preorder my copy.

I couldn't be happier, after recently starting an Admech army and having sold my Necron army several years back i have been indirectly looking for a reason to get some necrons and this will do it. Fill out my Admech and maybe get a new army started up best of both worlds.

looks like form codex or forgebane booklet

Was silently hoping for maybe reworked Warriors (similar to Tau Firewarrior/Breachers) but doesn't seem like it. Long shot obviously, but meh. Saves me replacing 60 Warriors lol

Fire Warriors only got a point drop. How is that a rework? Did I miss something?

Dandelion wrote:
Fire Warriors only got a point drop. How is that a rework? Did I miss something?

I think he means that a while ago, like the last time Tau got a codex, the fire warrior box was retooled (when they split strikers and breachers into their own unique units instead of just being fire warriors with different guns). The kit got redone and had slightly different heads and the trashcan added to it (as well as a couple other things probably). Was obviously not going to happen since the codex didn't have any special fanfare/was announced in a cluster of other codexes, but everyone can dream

Oooh, he meant models. Gotcha. Yeah, new warrior kits would be awesome. Oh well...

125 euros.
If separately, RRP would be 325 euros. All the Mechanicum ir Necron parts retails for about 185 euros, so the two Armigers might be roughly 70 euros each. An amazing deal if you just want the Knights and have friends who would pick necrons/skitarii. Heck, you could sell everything with 40% off and pretty much get the Knights for free.

Ashran wrote:

Dandelion wrote:
Fire Warriors only got a point drop. How is that a rework? Did I miss something?

I think he means that a while ago, like the last time Tau got a codex, the fire warrior box was retooled (when they split strikers and breachers into their own unique units instead of just being fire warriors with different guns). The kit got redone and had slightly different heads and the trashcan added to it (as well as a couple other things probably). Was obviously not going to happen since the codex didn't have any special fanfare/was announced in a cluster of other codexes, but everyone can dream

Breachers were a new thing, period, for Fire Warriors. The gun they had didn't exist before, they got their own specialized backpacks and helmets and even a drone that they're supposed to have synergy with(the Guardian Drone--a shield drone that gets better if you have a matching piece of gear).
Prior to that, Fire Warriors were just called Fire Warriors and could have Pulse Carbines or Pulse Rifles.

It was basically the same treatment that Necron Immortals had gotten during the Necron book previously.

Was kinda hoping for the Armiger preview to pop up now.

What dynasty do the Necrons from this boxed set belong to by the way?

 BrookM wrote:

What dynasty do the Necrons from this boxed set belong to by the way?

Do you mean according to the lore in the box set, or...?

Because as far as they're painted, at least, they just look to be Sautekh (which is just the "default" dynasty).

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/03/12/unit-focus-armiger-warglaivesgw-homepage-post-4/

 Ghaz wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/03/12/unit-focus-armiger-warglaivesgw-homepage-post-4/

See? They're not as big as people think!

With four attacks at Strength 12, AP -3 and Damage 3, there’s little that can stand up to an assault from this brutal weapon, and it’ll be particularly potent against enemy heavy infantry as well as armoured units. Just watch out for hordes – you might find yourself bogged down when battling Ork Boyz, Hormagaunts and the like, as you lack the ability of the full-sized Imperial Knight to fall back and shoot with impunity.

Important bit from the Warhammer Community article.

 Kanluwen wrote:

With four attacks at Strength 12, AP -3 and Damage 3, there’s little that can stand up to an assault from this brutal weapon, and it’ll be particularly potent against enemy heavy infantry as well as armoured units. Just watch out for hordes – you might find yourself bogged down when battling Ork Boyz, Hormagaunts and the like, as you lack the ability of the full-sized Imperial Knight to fall back and shoot with impunity.

Important bit from the Warhammer Community article.

The other important (good) bits...

Unlike other Lords of War, you’ll be able to fit up to three Armigers in a single slot...

Armiger Warglaives are FAST – a 14″ move lets them to close in on enemy targets rapidly...

Well, hopefully their cost is in line with a non-relic contemptor then as honestly they seem pretty similar. Faster, less skilled. Definitely not a Lord of War in any sense other than for detachment purposes.

Yeah by stats they shouldn't be Lords of War but I have no problems with them being one just to allow IK players flexibility.

So will these new Knights be imperial only, or will there be Chaos versions?

Squadrons of 1-3 and increased movement speed?

 Togusa wrote:
So will these new Knights be imperial only, or will there be Chaos versions?

I'll consult my charts.

*rolls 2D6*
Maaaaaaaaaaaaybe?

If you want a real answer; nobody here can help you. We haven't seen a Chaos Knights book(we probably won't) or the Knights book proper. If GW is smart, they'll release a single "Knights" book and it will have rules for Questor Mechanicus, Imperialis, and Traitoris.

So the known stats seem to be:
14" movement, Strength 6, Toughness 7, 12 Wounds, 4 attacks, 3+ Save and an unknown ion shield (5+ is my guess)

Not being able to fall back from combat will hurt a bit.

Those stats do not seem impressive... These should not cost more than a Leman Russ tank.

 Looky Likey wrote:
So the known stats seem to be:
14" movement, Strength 6, Toughness 7, 12 Wounds, 4 attacks, 3+ Save and an unknown ion shield (5+ is my guess)

Not being able to fall back from combat will hurt a bit.

I'd guess that it'll be a normal Ion Shield since it doesn't say it's a special one.

 Looky Likey wrote:
Not being able to fall back from combat will hurt a bit.

Rather, they can walk out of combats like everything else, but unlike proper Knights, cannot shoot and assault afterwards.

 Ghaz wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/03/12/unit-focus-armiger-warglaivesgw-homepage-post-4/

Spoiler:

I think I like the Armigers better after seeing that picture. Looks like a mechanical Vortigaunt.

 Crimson wrote:
Those stats do not seem impressive... These should not cost more than a Leman Russ tank.

That's the point, isn't it? Knights have enough expensive models. And GW can't very well go and give them superior rules for cheap. I mean, they could, but you know...

It is priced, sized, and ruled in such a way as to allow a pure knight detachment at 1000 points.

If it is priced right the weak stats are not a problem, though I was definitely expecting more considering it's a LoW.

I think GW is looking at it that three of them are a Lord of War.

So what you guys are saying is that I need three boxes of Forgebane? To make 6 guys, to go with a Knight.

It says "up to" so I think it's 1-3 per LoW slot.

 Crazyterran wrote:
So what you guys are saying is that I need three boxes of Forgebane? To make 6 guys, to go with a Knight.

No, not even close. What I'm saying is that since you can take up to three of them in a single slot, GW decided to make them a Lord of War choice. If they had been limited to one per slot like most units they may have been a Heavy Support choice instead.