Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

sieGermans wrote:
In fairness, we were starved for CP because our Troops are sub-par as of Late Stage 8th Ed.

I would have loved to bring large Brigades of troops supplemented by other detachments/units--but that wasn't competitively viable in any reasonable way.

Not just that. Also HQ tax and that necron troops needs to be full sized or they give up plenty of their bonuses. When even min sized squad costs about 2 units worth of other faction and loses bunch of abilities it pays for being min sized while other faction works just fine it's hard to get 6/9 troops needed.

Necron troops could be worth their points but when 1 costs 150 as cheapest it's hard to fit in 6...Especially when troops aren't the expensive part of the army.

Agreed.

If they were better for their points, or brought functionality which we otherwise needed to spend points on elsewhere (for other units) then the CP starvation wouldn't be as much an issue.

Questions about the Silent King do you want him to be like Magnus a beast by himself or do you want him to be a buff god like Jimmy G?

 CKO wrote:
Questions about the Silent King do you want him to be like Magnus a beast by himself or do you want him to be a buff god like Jimmy G?

Definitely more buffer than personally buff.

I do want him to be a good combatant, but I'd rather he be a LEADER than a duelist.

 JNAProductions wrote:

 CKO wrote:
Questions about the Silent King do you want him to be like Magnus a beast by himself or do you want him to be a buff god like Jimmy G?

Definitely more buffer than personally buff.

I do want him to be a good combatant, but I'd rather he be a LEADER than a duelist.

I am greedy I want it all my guy made GODS work for him unlike the puny Emperor! My guy is on par with the EMPEROR! Ctan powers are a must since there seems to be one struggling in the picture thus he is being powered by a freaking star god! At least 4-7 attacks since 2 bodyguards and a lord equals 7 attacks last time I checked. Most importantly this guy buffs should be 2 my will be done rules a turn and a cryptek plus 1 to reanimation protocals within 12 inches and he deserves a 4++ and quantom shielding, I mean please GW don't ruin this for me!

 CKO wrote:

 JNAProductions wrote:

 CKO wrote:
Questions about the Silent King do you want him to be like Magnus a beast by himself or do you want him to be a buff god like Jimmy G?

Definitely more buffer than personally buff.

I do want him to be a good combatant, but I'd rather he be a LEADER than a duelist.

I am greedy I want it all my guy made GODS work for him unlike the puny Emperor! My guy is on par with the EMPEROR! Ctan powers are a must since there seems to be one struggling in the picture thus he is being powered by a freaking star god! At least 4-7 attacks since 2 bodyguards and a lord equals 7 attacks last time I checked. Most importantly this guy buffs should be 2 my will be done rules a turn and a cryptek plus 1 to reanimation protocals within 12 inches and he deserves a 4++ and quantom shielding, I mean please GW don't ruin this for me!

How many points do you think that'd all be?

Most of all, I don't want him to be ESSENTIAL. He should be a good unit, but not a crutch.

If he is the same as the Primarchs I will be fine with that

He has a floating death chair with orbiting shields, two lesser lords and a trapped C'tan. If he doesn't have some personal buffness as a model you'd have to wonder what all that's for.

As a subset of the huge model isolated to just the guy his buff auras should probably be more important than his direct ability to hit things with a pointy stick though, yes.

I wonder if that new Ctan model is a multi-model kit. The two on the GW webstore right now are both finecast, would be a neat way to give a new model and sweep them out by replacing them with a multi-kit model in plastic.

That would basically just leave Necrons with old leaders in finecast - assuming flayed ones are being replaced with something.

 Overread wrote:
I wonder if that new Ctan model is a multi-model kit. The two on the GW webstore right now are both finecast, would be a neat way to give a new model and sweep them out by replacing them with a multi-kit model in plastic.

That would basically just leave Necrons with old leaders in finecast - assuming flayed ones are being replaced with something.

I'm hoping the make the NB and deceiver plastic (as I really hate finecast). With the new C'Tan a lot of people think it's the void dragon and from the Lore I've read and the model it does kind of fit. Either way a new C'Tan is nice but in the Lore the void dragon imbued necron warriors with the power of lightning which sensing on how they do it could have some cool effects in CC

One thought I did have is that it might be a model for Orikan Empowered?

Orikan kinda has the tail and Staff thing going on?

I would prefer it to be the Dragon, but it's a fun thing one of my friends mentioned

A multi-build c'tan would be amazing. My best guess is that it's the nightbringer reimagined though, at least the build we've seen.

Flayed ones going bye bye would be sad, but if it's the price we pay for all this goodness then so be it.

I'm now trying to decide whether to go with a new paint scheme for my new shiny boys. My current force is just silver, even the vehicles. It's painted OK< but it's so tough to make the big vehicles look good when they're just one big blob of metallics.

Reluctant to paint anything until we get the new codex, but god knows when that will be.

 IHateNids wrote:
One thought I did have is that it might be a model for Orikan Empowered?

Orikan kinda has the tail and Staff thing going on?

I would prefer it to be the Dragon, but it's a fun thing one of my friends mentioned

I don't think games workshop would give Orikan empowered such a huge model, but I agree he could do with one to represent his empowered state

Or maybe Orikan will no longer have a de-powered state.

With the desire to replace Finecast it does put a lot of those special characters in a weird spot. The range is already getting a massive update with several new units. Surely they couldn't be replacing 6 or so character models too?

 Bosskelot wrote:
With the desire to replace Finecast it does put a lot of those special characters in a weird spot. The range is already getting a massive update with several new units. Surely they couldn't be replacing 6 or so character models too?

Well, Szeras is effectively (if not actually) replaced. I don't see why Orikan can't be.

 IHateNids wrote:
One thought I did have is that it might be a model for Orikan Empowered?

Orikan kinda has the tail and Staff thing going on?

I would prefer it to be the Dragon, but it's a fun thing one of my friends mentioned

You thought wrong. That model has the size of mortarion, lord of change, bloodthirster. Its not gonna be orikan empowered, looks more like the void dragon.

 p5freak wrote:

 IHateNids wrote:
One thought I did have is that it might be a model for Orikan Empowered?

Orikan kinda has the tail and Staff thing going on?

I would prefer it to be the Dragon, but it's a fun thing one of my friends mentioned

You thought wrong. That model has the size of mortarion, lord of change, bloodthirster. Its not gonna be orikan empowered, looks more like the void dragon.

Orikan's empowered stats are those of a C'Tan shard--so I'm not sure what you're distinguishing, here.

With regards to characters, I think they'll be replaced through 9th editions version of psychic awakening. The new range is focused on a new dynasty (presumably the Szerachan dynasty, the dudes that the Silent King took with him when he left the galaxy). It wouldn't make sense for them to remake characters from other dynasties in this wave.

I also really doubt that's Orikan. It's a C'tan, the only question is which one (or if it's just one).

sieGermans wrote:

 p5freak wrote:

 IHateNids wrote:
One thought I did have is that it might be a model for Orikan Empowered?

Orikan kinda has the tail and Staff thing going on?

I would prefer it to be the Dragon, but it's a fun thing one of my friends mentioned

You thought wrong. That model has the size of mortarion, lord of change, bloodthirster. Its not gonna be orikan empowered, looks more like the void dragon.

Orikan's empowered stats are those of a C'Tan shard--so I'm not sure what you're distinguishing, here.

The wings make it look like the void dragon.

 p5freak wrote:

sieGermans wrote:

 p5freak wrote:

 IHateNids wrote:
One thought I did have is that it might be a model for Orikan Empowered?

Orikan kinda has the tail and Staff thing going on?

I would prefer it to be the Dragon, but it's a fun thing one of my friends mentioned

You thought wrong. That model has the size of mortarion, lord of change, bloodthirster. Its not gonna be orikan empowered, looks more like the void dragon.

Orikan's empowered stats are those of a C'Tan shard--so I'm not sure what you're distinguishing, here.

The wings make it look like the void dragon.

And the lightning too.

 p5freak wrote:

sieGermans wrote:

 p5freak wrote:

 IHateNids wrote:
One thought I did have is that it might be a model for Orikan Empowered?

Orikan kinda has the tail and Staff thing going on?

I would prefer it to be the Dragon, but it's a fun thing one of my friends mentioned

You thought wrong. That model has the size of mortarion, lord of change, bloodthirster. Its not gonna be orikan empowered, looks more like the void dragon.

Orikan's empowered stats are those of a C'Tan shard--so I'm not sure what you're distinguishing, here.

The wings make it look like the void dragon.

I agree. I think it's more likely it is the Void Dragon. But it isn't impossible it could be Orikan instead.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/06/01/rise-of-the-skorpekh-destroyer/

A bit of a look at the stabby crabbies.



Assuming they're strength 4 like normal destroyers, that puts them at Str 6. So these guys are going to shred elite infantry, but anti-armour might be a stretch. Impossible to tell how they'll function without all the context of 9th though.

Their models look dope af. Loving all the new creepiness.

Supposedly there are going to be 3 destroyer variants. The Skorpekh, Locust (might have heard it wrong?), and another Destroyer type.
The Locust are the originals, while the Skorpekh are close combat, and the third we don't have info on.
I wonder if the big destroyer in the bottom of the released image is a new type of destroyer? I hope it's just a re-make of the original. That would mean there's another new model kit we haven't seen.

I know GW raised prices and it bothers me, but I also know I'll be buying everything as soon as it releases.

Eh, price hikes likely won't affect us. New models were always coming in at new prices, and most of the hikes are on old stuff. our old stuff is being replaced.

Where'd this three destroyer types rumour come from?

IanVanCheese wrote:
Eh, price hikes likely won't affect us. New models were always coming in at new prices, and most of the hikes are on old stuff. our old stuff is being replaced.

Where'd this three destroyer types rumour come from?

The GW twitch stream

Hm I really wanted S8 to get back some of our ability to mow down vehicles that we lost going from 7th to 8th

It's reasonable to think that the Skorptekh will be Str 5 base to be honest, considering that Lychguard are. So Str 7 seems likely. Hopefully there will be some dynasty traits and strats to buff them if we need them to handle some anti-tank duties.

OK cool, maybe the third type will be the heavy destroyer, or that weird dude that people spotted hiding behind the monolith. he looked like he was on crab legs, right?

IanVanCheese wrote:
It's reasonable to think that the Skorptekh will be Str 5 base to be honest, considering that Lychguard are. So Str 7 seems likely. Hopefully there will be some dynasty traits and strats to buff them if we need them to handle some anti-tank duties.

OK cool, maybe the third type will be the heavy destroyer, or that weird dude that people spotted hiding behind the monolith. he looked like he was on crab legs, right?

Yes, it'd a likely candidate.

We already have a S+1 strat, so in that sense they're all set. Unless you have two units in cc same turn

It’s interesting how much they’re fleshing out the destroyer cult, it’s quite cool. I hope the old Destroyers, the locust ones, get an update to their models, they’re really crude now compared to all these new models, especially with the updated heavy destroyer.