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However disheartened i get by 40k the lore of it all always pulls me back in.

maybe you need a good narrative game/campaign

I am in the same boat OP, finding less and less enjoyment with this brand of the hobby. I finally collected my dream armies from 3rd edition I could never afford as a kid... But going down to the local store for weekly games of 40k just feels like more of a chore than something fun to do. It takes a lot of mental effort to work up the willpower just to get building a few models here and there, and painting? Naw, at this point it isn't happening. I don't know what it is, but 40k just doesn't seem to be doing it for me right now. After this weekend's games I am probably going to be taking a break from the game until I get a look at Chapter Approved: 2018, in the hope of the game looking like it may be fun to me again.

In the mean time, now that some Warmachine players have moved into town, think I will go going that route again. I loved the game in Mk.I & Mk.II, we just didn't have anybody in my little town I moved to that plays. My excitement for that brand of the hobby is still strong, and Kings of War looks like tons of fun.

So, keep your favorite stuff, take a break, and hopefully your enjoyment of the hobby comes back!

Nothing is stopping you going back to Index only games if that what your group enjoyed. You own and have paid for this stuff so use it instead of Codexes.

Hey guys. Life is not a wish concert.
40k costs your time, it costs your money, it costs your life (wife).
You cant just quit.
We need your insight here at Dakka for remaining a vital gaming community.

It sounds more like a specific feeling of your group than something to do with the game. If I were you I'd keep my stuff in case/when the bug takes you again.

In my area the groups have roughly doubled since 8th and continue to show signs of growing.

Take a breath. Go for a run. Gain perspective.

Start a new army!

TangoTwoBravo wrote:
Take a breath. Go for a run. Gain perspective.

Start a new army!

Yeah.

Either reinforce your AM army. It cant be beaten anyway.
Or start something fresh which cant win anyway.

I'm doing the same. My Eldar is hard to beat.
But my Harlies (had about 25 old Harlie metal models around) are in another boat.

Yeah! Don't throw anything away! Make sur etomgive it all to me! Or ebay it! Seriously, I did this to my DA a year or so ago and it was awesome! I got about £200+ out of the army i spent less money on and used that money to just take a break.

My advice would be if you have any particular models/armies you really love keep those, and sell off the rest. You might come back to the game, or maybe play old edition rules with a bud, or you might not. Life throws a lot of changes at you and what you do with your "free" time should be something you enjoy.

I find that the enjoyment you get out of 40k entirely depends on the way you approach it with the group you surround yourself with. In my area, we've got a large community, fairly casual, with huge army variety and a great willingness to try a variety of wacky, custom things (We played a whole Shadow War campaign, mini 1000pts tournaments, team tournaments near the start of 8th, narrative campaigns) and that always helps keep things fresh. So while I myself am getting married in a few months, one of our officers is a semi-pro athlete, one of them is a father of two and the other is just about to have his first kid, the community keeps us coming back to 40k week after week.

I respect that in a place where I wouldn't have that, I'd be far less passionate about the hobby. If I couldn't just decide I needed two weeks off from thinking about "the competitive meta" and PM a buddy to create a completely custom narrative scenario.

If you don't have time for it, take a break. I don't think it's a bad thing to liquidate some of your side armies if they're not doing it for you anymore (2/3 of my first three armies are long gone) - it allows you to experience the fun of collecting and painting again if you do ever get back into it.

Yeah I stopped playing after 4months none of my armies have a codex and I was getting obliterated as a result it was no fun.

Since then every change they announce just proves I was right to do so this edition is degrading faster than any other I've played.

I've been in that same boat for many years now. The direction that my community, or the whole "wargaming community" in general has made a hard departure from the things that excite me about the hobby and its hard to stay enthused in an activity where the things that pulled you into it are no longer a presence.

Weird attitude that when you eventually become a adult you're meant to stop wargaming?

I have friends with 2-3 kids who still hobby when they can and make my local games club once a week.

I think it is less that and more that it becomes harder to find the time. I used to game once a week pre-kids, now I'm lucky to get once a month as other things have taken priority. I've seen people stop having time all together. It just varies by the person and situation how much time you have for "trivial" pursuits once you have a family.

I quit and regretted it. I jumped ship beginning of 6th, when the whole 2++ rerollable death star darkelfdar were rolling around and getting beat at tournaments by scrubs.

Instead of sucking it up, taking a break, and riding it out, I sold all my armies for about 1/4 of what I paid for them (not including the time spent painting them). I then hopped over to Warmachine, which was a good time waster, but again... a tournament came, a dude cheated blatantly and the T.O. told me tough cookies. I sold my stuff and got out of wargaming for 3 years until recently.

Nothing quite fills that void like 40k. I love the fluff and the models, and while GW works on the rules, its still a fantastic game. Even if you do take a break for a year or two, DO NOT CLEAR ALL YOUR STUFF! You will regret it. I did.

 Galas wrote:
For me warhammer is like chinese food.

Some times I only want to eat it, and I spend 6-8 months eating chinese food like, 3-4 times a week.

But then I just don't want it more, and I can spend the next 3-5 years without ever eating it again.

I had no idea anyone else did this

HuskyWarhammer wrote:
Reading the OP, it sounds like the group just had kind of a natural cycle of lack of interest. That's okay, we've all lost interest in activities and whatnot.

That all being said: if one very specific and OP combination of units (like Taudar) or formations was enough to make people lose interest, it probably wasn't there much to begin with.

My thoughts exactly. It doesn't take much to break up a hobby group, particularly if the interest is not strong. I know nothing could shake my love for little plastic models!


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SonofSlamguinius wrote:

 Galas wrote:
For me warhammer is like chinese food.

Some times I only want to eat it, and I spend 6-8 months eating chinese food like, 3-4 times a week.

But then I just don't want it more, and I can spend the next 3-5 years without ever eating it again.

I had no idea anyone else did this

I do this too. In my circle, we call it 'samefooding'. It's frowned upon by the majority of society (because they don't understand it, I guess), but screw them. Do what makes you happy.


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 AaronWilson wrote:
Weird attitude that when you eventually become a adult you're meant to stop wargaming?

I have friends with 2-3 kids who still hobby when they can and make my local games club once a week.

I have come to accept, as a non-breeder, that when people have kids, I pretty much lose them as friends, because their life suddenly revolves around their kids and they no longer 'have time' for their friends. If they don't care enough about me enough to make time, then feth them. I also find it rather sad that people throw away all the things that made them happy in order to have kids. No wonder 'mid-life crises' are so common - it's probably due to people having zero fun for 18 years, then suddenly thinking, 'damn, I used to have all these fun hobbies - what happened to them?'
I have one friend who already had a child when he started gaming, and he and his wife are fairly old, so I am pretty sure he's a keeper. He has learned to mix the family with the hobbies.

 corpuschain wrote:

HuskyWarhammer wrote:
Reading the OP, it sounds like the group just had kind of a natural cycle of lack of interest. That's okay, we've all lost interest in activities and whatnot.

That all being said: if one very specific and OP combination of units (like Taudar) or formations was enough to make people lose interest, it probably wasn't there much to begin with.

My thoughts exactly. It doesn't take much to break up a hobby group, particularly if the interest is not strong. I know nothing could shake my love for little plastic models!


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SonofSlamguinius wrote:

 Galas wrote:
For me warhammer is like chinese food.

Some times I only want to eat it, and I spend 6-8 months eating chinese food like, 3-4 times a week.

But then I just don't want it more, and I can spend the next 3-5 years without ever eating it again.

I had no idea anyone else did this

I do this too. In my circle, we call it 'samefooding'. It's frowned upon by the majority of society (because they don't understand it, I guess), but screw them. Do what makes you happy.


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 AaronWilson wrote:
Weird attitude that when you eventually become a adult you're meant to stop wargaming?

I have friends with 2-3 kids who still hobby when they can and make my local games club once a week.

I have come to accept, as a non-breeder, that when people have kids, I pretty much lose them as friends, because their life suddenly revolves around their kids and they no longer 'have time' for their friends. If they don't care enough about me enough to make time, then feth them. I also find it rather sad that people throw away all the things that made them happy in order to have kids. No wonder 'mid-life crises' are so common - it's probably due to people having zero fun for 18 years, then suddenly thinking, 'damn, I used to have all these fun hobbies - what happened to them?'
I have one friend who already had a child when he started gaming, and he and his wife are fairly old, so I am pretty sure he's a keeper. He has learned to mix the family with the hobbies.

Well, with that attitude, I can see that they're probably better off focusing on their family. After all, they already have a crying baby to contend with, why would they want to make time to deal with a second one?

Keep your stuff. Never know when you might want to dust them off again even if it's to play older editions or the odd kill team game etc... I completely understand your frustration followed by apathy. I'm an ork collecter, 7th edition let me down. So far I've completely avoided 8th edition to see how it would work out for orks. Since there is still nothing for orks I have continued to not pay a single penny this edition. It's possible I'll be skipping this edition with the way it's looking. But I'm keeping my stuff. Never know.

I will, however, thank GW for their piss poor rules team. If it weren't for them pushing me away from 40k I wouldn't have gone outside to learn the joy of golfing.

This is a hobby, regardless of how time intensive it may be (and obviously money intensive as plenty o' hobbies are). When it stops being fun, ditch it.

No one is saying you have to sell off all your stuff, etc. Put it away for six months, and if you feel the same then, ditch it and move on with other things in your life.

I have the "should I sell all my miniatures?" feels about four or five times a year, and one of these days I'll give in. However I design and sell games, and host a lot of them, so it's a bit more difficult for me. It's no big crime to leave, or quit. It's just a game of toy soldiers. The 40K "community" as it were, will be around for a long time.

Move on and find something else that makes you happy.

Thanks for all the comments. I'm surprised there's not more people in the same boat, but I'm glad things are working out well elsewhere at least.

I think Polonius hit the nail on the head. I'm definitely going to keep some of my stuff. The stuff I've spent the most time / effort on is going to stick around. I also just enjoy painting, even if I'm not great at it. Just something calming about the process. The slow roll is a great idea because I really just want the space more than I need the money. I'm pretty sure I'm done for real, but I'd rather have a toolbox of Grey Knights taking up a corner of a shelf than have to start an army over again if I'm wrong.

My comment about "figuring out what it means to be an adult" was kind of a dig at the people I know having children, but also more a commentary on the recognition that there's only so much time in the day, and so you have to accept that there's not time enough to focus on all the things you'd like to do, and instead double down on the things that you want to prioritize. For some people, that's children. For one of our guys, it's travelling with his wife in their camper. For me, it's kind of becoming backpacking and my half-finished programming projects. I'm also interested in picking up Infinity, so I don't imagine I'm just going to walk away from wargaming altogether. Just 40k.

IMO even taking the time to make this post shows you're not 100% ready to quit and that really you want something to pull you back in. If I were you id buy a display case and put the stuff in your room or living room. You could always come back to it later or sell it and honestly they are great conversation starters and people that don't play are usually very intrigued seeing them. I was crushed when WHFB died but I'm glad I still have my goblins set up in my room, it's definitely better than the few hundred dollars I would have gotten for all the hard work I put into them

Honestly, I used to play an Imperial Fist army back in the day when Rapid Fire meant you could stand still and shoot once up to 24" or fire twice within 12" but you couldn't assault aftwards, which basically made any troops with Boltguns able to fire once, maybe twice in a game if your opponent was slow and in a convenient LOS, which was rare. It was HUGELY frustrating, especially since the one friend I had into the game was very good and fielded Eldar.

With that one simple change I was getting back into things with gusto, and the changes to vehicles, especially Dreadnoughts who no longer just get one shot all the time, still make me happy. Balance is a never ending argument, with all sides having legit beefs, so I'm still happy.

Your army, assembled and painted, is probably worth at least 2x NIB prices to *you*. At least as long as you're interested in the game.

Your army, assembled and painted, is probably worth at most 1/4 NIB prices to anyone else. With variance based on artistry.

So you might recoup a quarter of what you spent on it. But if you ever get into the game again, you're down at least 3/4 of the cost to re-buy the stuff. Nearly double the cost in actual value lost.

The stuff is worth so much more to you than whomever you'll be selling to that it's really risky to sell. Even if there's only a 10% chance you'll get into the hobby again, probably not worth selling.

(Also, note that the relapse rate for those overcomming plastic crack addition is very high.)

 daedalus wrote:
Thanks for all the comments. I'm surprised there's not more people in the same boat, but I'm glad things are working out well elsewhere at least.

Just 40k.

How can we miss you if you won't go away?

I took a break for two full editions (6th/7th). While storing and moving everything was a pain now that I am playing again I have no regrets about holding onto everything.

I think for most adults though, 40K is not expensive (expensive does not equate to poorly priced), but rather the time and effort involved in gathering/building/painting an army.

40K is perhaps expensive when we're talking about high schoolers and poor college kids, but to a normal adult, 40K by comparison, is an incredibly cheap hobby - other hobbies consuming far more money. I don't think someone needs to be particularly worried about recouping cost of selling off models. The sting will be if you regret it three months from now. But five or six years down the road, the money lost will be trivial at best.

Lemondish wrote:

 corpuschain wrote:

HuskyWarhammer wrote:
Reading the OP, it sounds like the group just had kind of a natural cycle of lack of interest. That's okay, we've all lost interest in activities and whatnot.

That all being said: if one very specific and OP combination of units (like Taudar) or formations was enough to make people lose interest, it probably wasn't there much to begin with.

My thoughts exactly. It doesn't take much to break up a hobby group, particularly if the interest is not strong. I know nothing could shake my love for little plastic models!


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SonofSlamguinius wrote:

 Galas wrote:
For me warhammer is like chinese food.

Some times I only want to eat it, and I spend 6-8 months eating chinese food like, 3-4 times a week.

But then I just don't want it more, and I can spend the next 3-5 years without ever eating it again.

I had no idea anyone else did this

I do this too. In my circle, we call it 'samefooding'. It's frowned upon by the majority of society (because they don't understand it, I guess), but screw them. Do what makes you happy.


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 AaronWilson wrote:
Weird attitude that when you eventually become a adult you're meant to stop wargaming?

I have friends with 2-3 kids who still hobby when they can and make my local games club once a week.

I have come to accept, as a non-breeder, that when people have kids, I pretty much lose them as friends, because their life suddenly revolves around their kids and they no longer 'have time' for their friends. If they don't care enough about me enough to make time, then feth them. I also find it rather sad that people throw away all the things that made them happy in order to have kids. No wonder 'mid-life crises' are so common - it's probably due to people having zero fun for 18 years, then suddenly thinking, 'damn, I used to have all these fun hobbies - what happened to them?'
I have one friend who already had a child when he started gaming, and he and his wife are fairly old, so I am pretty sure he's a keeper. He has learned to mix the family with the hobbies.

Well, with that attitude, I can see that they're probably better off focusing on their family. After all, they already have a crying baby to contend with, why would they want to make time to deal with a second one?

Hahaha, exalted.

My fantasy gaming group imploded the same way when A0S dropped.

My 40k group imploded the same way after 8th dropped.

The games became too basic ("is 40k a card game with minis now?) and turned off every wargamer I've played with.

It had nothing to do with life or availability. Both game systems became exceptionally crappy and everyone in BOTH my gaming groups dropped everything GW.

Purifying Tempest wrote:
I think the typical response to this type of thread would be: bye, can I have your stuff?

Damn, beat me to it.