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For the people giving them crap, Nick Nanavanti is doing the same thing and even charges just under $500 for like 1 month to "coach" you at playing 40k. But I don't see anyone giving him gak for it, and that just stinks of unbelievable arrogance. 40k isn't a sport, and you people who are trying to make it into some kind of e-sport are IMHO the problem.

New post on my new Tau list for the upcoming LGT:

https://www.glasshammergaming.co.uk/2018/05/06/list-analysis-alex-harrisons-lgt-tau-army/

Wayniac wrote:
For the people giving them crap, Nick Nanavanti is doing the same thing and even charges just under $500 for like 1 month to "coach" you at playing 40k. But I don't see anyone giving him gak for it, and that just stinks of unbelievable arrogance. 40k isn't a sport, and you people who are trying to make it into some kind of e-sport are IMHO the problem.

Nick Nanavanti didn't advertise his services on a public forum. I've never even heard of him. When you post on an open, public forum you're opening yourself to criticism and the opinions of others. That's how public discourse works. If he wants to post a link to his services on Dakka I'll merrily tell him why it's dumb.

I'm not even sure who the second half of your post is directed at.

 KillswitchUK wrote:
That was like.....the most rediculous example ever ...

Im taking you're critisism...and it's making me face palm. There are no poor kids, just adults who like some advice to better their game. In fact I need to stop biting...feeding a troll helps nobody. Thanks and good night.

Most adults are capable of being able to get said information together, so unless it's some rich dude who has a bunch of money to throw around, your main target is kids who don't know better.

Then you go and post in the Tactica subforum with actual spam. You're not posting tactics or anything to at least entice people to click on a link. You're so lazy you post legit spam. Here, lemme show you:
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/755915.page

Do you think you should get an ounce of respect? Absolutely not. I'm not a "troll" because I'm directly pointing out what you're doing.


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 Sim-Life wrote:

Wayniac wrote:
For the people giving them crap, Nick Nanavanti is doing the same thing and even charges just under $500 for like 1 month to "coach" you at playing 40k. But I don't see anyone giving him gak for it, and that just stinks of unbelievable arrogance. 40k isn't a sport, and you people who are trying to make it into some kind of e-sport are IMHO the problem.

Nick Nanavanti didn't advertise his services on a public forum. I've never even heard of him. When you post on an open, public forum you're opening yourself to criticism and the opinions of others. That's how public discourse works. If he wants to post a link to his services on Dakka I'll merrily tell him why it's dumb.

I'm not even sure who the second half of your post is directed at.

And if I knew he were doing that I'd give him the same Black Bart speech.

Posted a link to my tactical analysis of the list im taking to LGT. Have a read, might gain some solid insight.

Thanks for the feedback sir.

 KillswitchUK wrote:
Posted a link to my tactical analysis of the list im taking to LGT. Have a read, might gain some solid insight.

Thanks for the feedback sir.

No, you posted spam. You post a link to your website with no information and then casually make mention you sell stuff.

It is spam and I reported it as such just earlier.

I guess you have nothing better to do. Fair enough.

 KillswitchUK wrote:
I guess you have nothing better to do. Fair enough.

Are you ever going to provide any arguments as to why your list writing service is worth paying for or justify its existence at all or just make passive aggressive remarks and hope no one notices that you're taking advantage of people and ruining the community?

If you read the post in the website, all the information you require is on there.
Thank you.

 KillswitchUK wrote:
I guess you have nothing better to do. Fair enough.

Then defend the post as not spam. I insist. What makes that link not spam?

Sim-Life wrote:Are you ever going to provide any arguments as to why your list writing service is worth paying for or justify its existence at all or just make passive aggressive remarks and hope no one notices that you're taking advantage of people and ruining the community?

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:Then defend the post as not spam. I insist. What makes that link not spam?

It's genuinely amazing how pathetic you both are. Nobody has to prove anything to you personally, nor is the existence of this thing "ruining the community."

stroller wrote:
List writing for money? And here was me thinking the world couldn't get any madder....

You read my thoughts, dude. It´s a shame that nowadays people are too lazy to write their own list. But even paying money for this? That´s just a bad joke.

"Ruining the community" may be a bit extreme, but it's still zero-content spam that adds nothing to the community. And when the proportion of drive-by spammers trying to farm clicks for their sites instead of participating in legitimate discussion gets too high the quality of the community definitely suffers.

(And yes, it is zero-content spam. The post in question is literally nothing but a link to the OP's site saying "bring me your clicks", no attempt whatsoever at discussion on dakka was made.)

 Corrode wrote:

Sim-Life wrote:Are you ever going to provide any arguments as to why your list writing service is worth paying for or justify its existence at all or just make passive aggressive remarks and hope no one notices that you're taking advantage of people and ruining the community?

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:Then defend the post as not spam. I insist. What makes that link not spam?

It's genuinely amazing how pathetic you both are. Nobody has to prove anything to you personally, nor is the existence of this thing "ruining the community."

You ever watch one of those TV programmes where people bring a business idea to some investors and the investors ask why they should invest their money in something? You think they're just asking why the product is worth their money out of interest?

If you guys can't be bothered defending your product what message does that send out to people? I think you KNOW that what you're doing is frowned upon by the community. You even basically admit it on your own website when you promise to keep it a secret that you've written a list for someone, but you don't care as long as you can take advantage of someone and regurgitate to them the work that the community has already done for you.

You realise I have nothing to do with Glasshammer right?

Just ignore them mate. No point fueling the fire. No pleasing everyone on this forum

There's been entirely too many attacks and too much vitriol in this thread.

I'm handing out warnings individually. You're fine to disagree with what Glasshammer is offering, but repeated attacks and blatant hyperbole are clear violations of Rule #1.

I also have no idea why anyone thinks that this service is evil or deceptive. They're up front about who they are and what they offer; assuming that they are deceptive is short-shrifting the intelligence of anyone who doesn't get what they expect.

Thank you Lorek. Hopefully we can keep this on topic. We are working on battle report and tactics videos. Hope to get them out soon

 Lorek wrote:
There's been entirely too many attacks and too much vitriol in this thread.

I'm handing out warnings individually. You're fine to disagree with what Glasshammer is offering, but repeated attacks and blatant hyperbole are clear violations of Rule #1.

I also have no idea why anyone thinks that this service is evil or deceptive. They're up front about who they are and what they offer; assuming that they are deceptive is short-shrifting the intelligence of anyone who doesn't get what they expect.

They are spamming. End of discussion.

 Lorek wrote:

I also have no idea why anyone thinks that this service is evil or deceptive. They're up front about who they are and what they offer; assuming that they are deceptive is short-shrifting the intelligence of anyone who doesn't get what they expect.

It's deceptive because the information they could offer is freely available online. Likewise I'm VERY dubious about their £100 streamed game thing in that it could be very easily set it up to make it appear that an army list they've written is stronger than it is.


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 Corrode wrote:
You realise I have nothing to do with Glasshammer right?

You often insult people for criticising businesses you have nothing to do with?

Good lists are freely available online but they are buried under many more terrible lists. The same is true of last building advice.

Where is the deception?

 Peregrine wrote:
"Ruining the community" may be a bit extreme, but it's still zero-content spam that adds nothing to the community. And when the proportion of drive-by spammers trying to farm clicks for their sites instead of participating in legitimate discussion gets too high the quality of the community definitely suffers.

(And yes, it is zero-content spam. The post in question is literally nothing but a link to the OP's site saying "bring me your clicks", no attempt whatsoever at discussion on dakka was made.)

But they do offer content regularly, no?

 Sim-Life wrote:

 Lorek wrote:

I also have no idea why anyone thinks that this service is evil or deceptive. They're up front about who they are and what they offer; assuming that they are deceptive is short-shrifting the intelligence of anyone who doesn't get what they expect.

It's deceptive because the information they could offer is freely available online. Likewise I'm VERY dubious about their £100 streamed game thing in that it could be very easily set it up to make it appear that an army list they've written is stronger than it is.


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 Corrode wrote:
You realise I have nothing to do with Glasshammer right?

You often insult people for criticising businesses you have nothing to do with?

I just enjoy tilting at the idiot windmill, and you are today's idiot.

The site articles are going up nicely.
Regarding the last article; I should be playing some Tau soon.
I don't know Tau very well, can some one fill me in about the 2+ to hit and rerolling 1s

Looking forward to the tournament write up.

 Jasper wrote:
The site articles are going up nicely.
Regarding the last article; I should be playing some Tau soon.
I don't know Tau very well, can some one fill me in about the 2+ to hit and rerolling 1s

Looking forward to the tournament write up.

Hi Jasper, glad to hear youre picking up Tau. They are a fairly strong gunline type army which is a fairly easy army to pick up once you know the correct combos.

Markerlights are key in every Tau army. I suggest taking a few characters with Markers to allow you some reliable tokens to dish out and then some pathfinders for the alpha strike.

Hammerheads hit on 2's with Longstrike nearby. Also units like Riptides can hit a unit with the Fly keyword on 2's with 5 marker hits and the Velocity tracker, so its all about combo's like I said.

Hope that helps and we will be writing up the reports, and covering the tournament soon. You can check out progress on our Facebook page aswell.

Nice effort, always nice to see sites with competitive content, not enough of that around for sure. Maybe we'll even meet at ETC, would be interesting

Just don't encourage the offenders and put them on the ignore list, no need to derail an interesting thread with personal attacks.

This thread should be a bit quieter for a while.

 Daedalus81 wrote:
But they do offer content regularly, no?

Content on their site? Maybe. Content on dakka? Not really. Their recent activity seems pretty focused on treating dakka as a source of clicks to farm and customers to recruit rather than a community that they genuinely want to participate in. That's why, instead of posting their content here for people to read and discuss on dakka, they made "come look at our site" posts with zero content posted here.


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 Lorek wrote:
I also have no idea why anyone thinks that this service is evil or deceptive. They're up front about who they are and what they offer; assuming that they are deceptive is short-shrifting the intelligence of anyone who doesn't get what they expect.

They may be accurate and honest in describing the service itself, but it feels kind of deceptive because the most likely customer is newbies who don't yet understand how easy it is to find lists on the internet and how many people will eagerly provide list building advice for free. They seem to be counting on the newbie thinking the service is much more valuable and common than it really is and getting their money before they find, say, dakka's army lists section. And it doesn't help that they're charging money for something that takes very little effort, with no guarantee provided that the list is actually the best possible one for the newbie's goal.

IMO it's kind of like certain newbie-targeting commission painting services (I think we all know one in particular) we've seen: they might technically provide an accurate description of what you receive for your purchase, but they're counting on their customers being too uninformed to realize that they're massively overpaying for a level of paint quality that is bare minimum tabletop level at best. OP may not have the same issues with scamming and refusing to provide a finished product as a certain furniture-themed painting service, but their business concept feels kind of similarly questionable.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 KillswitchUK wrote:
Posted a link to my tactical analysis of the list im taking to LGT. Have a read, might gain some solid insight.

Thanks for the feedback sir.

No, you posted spam. You post a link to your website with no information and then casually make mention you sell stuff.

It is spam and I reported it as such just earlier.

So if you think it's against forum rules leave moderators to it rather than attacking. So far however moderators have kept their threads open apart from one duplicate. So seems it's not against forum rules at which point you need to stop complaining. If it's against forum rules mods will deal with it. If not they have right to post it. Simple as that. You don't like it, fine. There's this button called "ignore" you can use to get rid of posts by them.


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 Peregrine wrote:

 Daedalus81 wrote:
But they do offer content regularly, no?

Content on their site? Maybe. Content on dakka? Not really. Their recent activity seems pretty focused on treating dakka as a source of clicks to farm and customers to recruit rather than a community that they genuinely want to participate in. That's why, instead of posting their content here for people to read and discuss on dakka, they made "come look at our site" posts with zero content posted here.

Sooooo...I'm sure you can provide Dakka rule # that says it's not allowed and if not provide explanation why mods haven't deleted that despite them clearly knowing about the threads.

If it's within dakka rules they can do it. you are free to ignore it. That's your right. Doesn't mean they can't post it. Readers will vote with their feet.

tneva82 wrote:
Sooooo...I'm sure you can provide Dakka rule # that says it's not allowed and if not provide explanation why mods haven't deleted that despite them clearly knowing about the threads.

I never said it was against the rules. It may not be ban-worthy at the moment, but that doesn't make it constructive or useful posting.

If it's within dakka rules they can do it. you are free to ignore it. That's your right. Doesn't mean they can't post it. Readers will vote with their feet.

I am also free to criticize it, which I have done.