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I have been hearing more and more 40k factions and units have there names butchered, and I'm not really sure why, as so many of the names in the Grim Dark follow certain well known historical literary traditions.

Take Adeptus Custodes for example, a pair of words clearly modeled after ancient Rome, which itself mirrors ancient Greece in many ways. How Custodes came to be pronounced CUS-TOADS is lost on me. Think of a few ancient writers: Euripides, pronounced UR-IP-I-DEES, or Sophocles, pronounced SOF-I-CLEES. Given this, Custodes is pronounced CUS-TOE-DEES.

Bonus round: Roboute Guilliman. Both the OUTE and the UILLI are french base constructions. So you would actually pronounce his name RO-BOO GEE-IMON.

Let me just say up front that I fully expect no one to say BobbyG's name correct as it does sound pretty pretentious. But I think we can all rally around the correct custodes can't we?!

Apologies up front for those of you who hate grammar Nazis. I'll be honest with you I hate them too lol! But this has been going on widespread for so long, I figured I'd put up a short post that no one will read anyway lol!

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It's pronounced GOL-D MA-RINES.

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 peteralmo wrote:
I have been hearing more and more 40k factions and units have there names butchered, and I'm not really sure why, as so many of the names in the Grim Dark follow certain well known historical literary traditions.

Take Adeptus Custodes for example, a pair of words clearly modeled after ancient Rome, which itself mirrors ancient Greece in many ways. How Custodes came to be pronounced CUS-TOADS is lost on me. Think of a few ancient writers: Euripides, pronounced UR-IP-I-DEES, or Sophocles, pronounced SOF-I-CLEES. Given this, Custodes is pronounced CUS-TOE-DEES.

Bonus round: Roboute Guilliman. Both the OUTE and the UILLI are french base constructions. So you would actually pronounce his name RO-BOO GEE-IMON.

Let me just say up front that I fully expect no one to say BobbyG's name correct as it does sound pretty pretentious. But I think we can all rally around the correct custodes can't we?!

Apologies up front for those of you who hate grammar Nazis. I'll be honest with you I hate them too lol! But this has been going on widespread for so long, I figured I'd put up a short post that no one will read anyway lol!


I do my best to mispronounce every name of every custode unit during game. I like bothering people who are into the whole fake-latin wankfest.

A-dep-TIS CUS-tards, say it with me kids.

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"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"

"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"

"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"

"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!"  
   
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While we're at it....

AbaDDon not ABBadon.
   
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That’s because the french doesnt know how to pronounce their own words, hence all the missing letters in french pronounciation.
   
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American? Grammar? Oh the irony,

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 Rolsheen wrote:
American? Grammar? Oh the irony,


I know! It's hard to believe some of us are actually highly educated! But you know, given our track record of Military, Cultural, and Technological achievements I think we'll take a big fat thank you from the world and move on...

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My playgroup usually pronounces Roboute Guilliman as Rampaging Gorillaman.
   
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Cust-o-daes while accurate does not sound right. Cus-toads sounds better.

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 Daedalus81 wrote:
While we're at it....

AbaDDon not ABBadon.


This one always confuses me, to be honest. However, here's how we can help remember it! Take "Abandon" and change the "n" to the letter next to it!

 peteralmo wrote:
How Custodes came to be pronounced CUS-TOADS is lost on me.


I'll raise my hand as one of the folks who say "Cus-Toads". I also pronounce Arbites as "Arr-Bites" and Astartes as "As-tarts". This probably comes from my prejudice due to so many English words having messed by pronunciations compared to how their spelled. When I see Custodes, I think "Custodians of the Throne", and Custodian is pronounced "Cus-Toad-ian". When I see Arbites, I think police, cops, and other brief words, so I shortened Arbites to being the shortest way of saying that word. Astartes, well, it's the English in me here that wants to ignore the pronunciation of the "e", just as with other words ending in "te" that become plural, like "gates" or "contributes". Again, word-laziness enters, as my brain shortens the word to the shortest possible pronunciation.

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To be honest, I thought it was more along the lines of custodians. Obviously these guys arent cleaning toilets and sweeping floors but like the guardians or keepers of the golden throne. It implies service and humility. Thats why I pronounced it cus-toads.
   
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They are custards and exsist purely to feed the emperor custard as that is all he survives on.

On a serious note though, not even GW's staff are consistent with pronunciation of factions. What hope do avarage players have, I count myself lucky if I can get a good game and some fun back and fourths from an opponent.

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 BlackLobster wrote:
Cust-o-daes while accurate does not sound right. Cus-toads sounds better.


I can appreciate the candor.

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 peteralmo wrote:
I have been hearing more and more 40k factions and units have there names butchered, and I'm not really sure why, as so many of the names in the Grim Dark follow certain well known historical literary traditions.

Take Adeptus Custodes for example, a pair of words clearly modeled after ancient Rome, which itself mirrors ancient Greece in many ways. How Custodes came to be pronounced CUS-TOADS is lost on me. Think of a few ancient writers: Euripides, pronounced UR-IP-I-DEES, or Sophocles, pronounced SOF-I-CLEES. Given this, Custodes is pronounced CUS-TOE-DEES.

Bonus round: Roboute Guilliman. Both the OUTE and the UILLI are french base constructions. So you would actually pronounce his name RO-BOO GEE-IMON.

Let me just say up front that I fully expect no one to say BobbyG's name correct as it does sound pretty pretentious. But I think we can all rally around the correct custodes can't we?!

Apologies up front for those of you who hate grammar Nazis. I'll be honest with you I hate them too lol! But this has been going on widespread for so long, I figured I'd put up a short post that no one will read anyway lol!


It's not "custoadies" or "kastoads". Also it's not "soficlees" its "sofokles". Just because those names got englified doesnt make it right to pronounce the e like an i. It's "Kus - To - daes" ! With "u" being a "u" and not an a

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Astra Milit..*blam* Astra Milliwhat, heretic? 
   
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Considering every audio book I have listened too and the official video that was released when Roboute came out has pronounced it ROE-BOOTAE GILL-A-MAN I'm going to go with that one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2KqndeepXQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_wXCBDiLEA
   
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The Salt Mine wrote:
Considering every audio book I have listened too and the official video that was released when Roboute came out has pronounced it ROE-BOOTAE GILL-A-MAN I'm going to go with that one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2KqndeepXQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_wXCBDiLEA


Right, but considering the well documented British antipathy towards all things culturally french, it makes perfect sense that they went that way, probably even subconsciously. Nevertheless, just from a linguistics history perspective, I believe the words "should" fall into the french pronunciation - in the end the creators can pronounce them how they wish though.


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Morkphoiz wrote:
 peteralmo wrote:
I have been hearing more and more 40k factions and units have there names butchered, and I'm not really sure why, as so many of the names in the Grim Dark follow certain well known historical literary traditions.

Take Adeptus Custodes for example, a pair of words clearly modeled after ancient Rome, which itself mirrors ancient Greece in many ways. How Custodes came to be pronounced CUS-TOADS is lost on me. Think of a few ancient writers: Euripides, pronounced UR-IP-I-DEES, or Sophocles, pronounced SOF-I-CLEES. Given this, Custodes is pronounced CUS-TOE-DEES.

Bonus round: Roboute Guilliman. Both the OUTE and the UILLI are french base constructions. So you would actually pronounce his name RO-BOO GEE-IMON.

Let me just say up front that I fully expect no one to say BobbyG's name correct as it does sound pretty pretentious. But I think we can all rally around the correct custodes can't we?!

Apologies up front for those of you who hate grammar Nazis. I'll be honest with you I hate them too lol! But this has been going on widespread for so long, I figured I'd put up a short post that no one will read anyway lol!


It's not "custoadies" or "kastoads". Also it's not "soficlees" its "sofokles". Just because those names got englified doesnt make it right to pronounce the e like an i. It's "Kus - To - daes" ! With "u" being a "u" and not an a


Yeah I was never pronouncing the U as an A, it's always pronounced as a U. And I acknowledge the AES as being correct over an EES, but both are vast improvements over TOADS.

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 peteralmo wrote:

Bonus round: Roboute Guilliman. Both the OUTE and the UILLI are french base constructions. So you would actually pronounce his name RO-BOO GEE-IMON.


In French pronunciation you pronounce the T at the end of a word if it is followed by an E, e.g droite, carte. Correct pronunciation according to this rule would be Ro-boot.
   
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It's called bastardized kitchen sink Latin for a reason. In seriousness this happens to all languages over time. Just look at the history of English language as an example at the top of my head.
   
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It's pronounced Robot Goriliaman (or Rowboat Girlyman), Custard Crémes and Armless Failure

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Let's not forget Adeptus Restarts.
   
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 peteralmo wrote:
I have been hearing more and more 40k factions and units have there names butchered, and I'm not really sure why, as so many of the names in the Grim Dark follow certain well known historical literary traditions.

Take Adeptus Custodes for example, a pair of words clearly modeled after ancient Rome, which itself mirrors ancient Greece in many ways. How Custodes came to be pronounced CUS-TOADS is lost on me. Think of a few ancient writers: Euripides, pronounced UR-IP-I-DEES, or Sophocles, pronounced SOF-I-CLEES. Given this, Custodes is pronounced CUS-TOE-DEES.

Bonus round: Roboute Guilliman. Both the OUTE and the UILLI are french base constructions. So you would actually pronounce his name RO-BOO GEE-IMON.

Let me just say up front that I fully expect no one to say BobbyG's name correct as it does sound pretty pretentious. But I think we can all rally around the correct custodes can't we?!

Apologies up front for those of you who hate grammar Nazis. I'll be honest with you I hate them too lol! But this has been going on widespread for so long, I figured I'd put up a short post that no one will read anyway lol!


I appreciate this and wage this war regularly.
   
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Audustum wrote:
 peteralmo wrote:
I have been hearing more and more 40k factions and units have there names butchered, and I'm not really sure why, as so many of the names in the Grim Dark follow certain well known historical literary traditions.

Take Adeptus Custodes for example, a pair of words clearly modeled after ancient Rome, which itself mirrors ancient Greece in many ways. How Custodes came to be pronounced CUS-TOADS is lost on me. Think of a few ancient writers: Euripides, pronounced UR-IP-I-DEES, or Sophocles, pronounced SOF-I-CLEES. Given this, Custodes is pronounced CUS-TOE-DEES.

Bonus round: Roboute Guilliman. Both the OUTE and the UILLI are french base constructions. So you would actually pronounce his name RO-BOO GEE-IMON.

Let me just say up front that I fully expect no one to say BobbyG's name correct as it does sound pretty pretentious. But I think we can all rally around the correct custodes can't we?!

Apologies up front for those of you who hate grammar Nazis. I'll be honest with you I hate them too lol! But this has been going on widespread for so long, I figured I'd put up a short post that no one will read anyway lol!


I appreciate this and wage this war regularly.


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I pronounce them as it is written, but at the same time, how it is pronounced in spanish is not the same as english.


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Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

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peteralmo wrote:
 Rolsheen wrote:
American? Grammar? Oh the irony,


I know! It's hard to believe some of us are actually highly educated! But you know, given our track record of Military, Cultural, and Technological achievements I think we'll take a big fat thank you from the world and move on...



who kicked whose a$$ twice and who saved whose a$$ twice?

back on topic, I really cannot stand the butchering of made up words, but when when most people cannot pronounce actual words in the English language it's actually worse.
   
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 Daedalus81 wrote:
While we're at it....

AbaDDon not ABBadon.


Mama mia, here we go again...

   
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 Giantwalkingchair wrote:
 Daedalus81 wrote:
While we're at it....

AbaDDon not ABBadon.


Mama mia, here we go again...



   
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 Galas wrote:
I pronounce them as it is written, but at the same time, how it is pronounced in spanish is not the same as english.



Indeed. Always funny to see these threads were english people are arguing about latin words. There's no way how you could "mispronounce" those in german, as there's only one way.

Btw., it's not "UR-IP-I-DEES" but "Oi-ree-pee-dehs"

Fun fact: In german translations Roboutes name is sometimes written as "Guillaume", which would have a totally different pronounciation.
   
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 Yarium wrote:
 Daedalus81 wrote:
While we're at it....

AbaDDon not ABBadon.


This one always confuses me, to be honest. However, here's how we can help remember it! Take "Abandon" and change the "n" to the letter next to it!

Or just remember it as "A BAD DON".

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The common pronunciation of Tyranids annoys me. It's just so wimpy sounding, and doesn't fit with the other similar words at all
Tyran=TIE-RAN
Tyrant= TIE RANT
Why is that pattern not followed when people say the race name?....
   
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Also see "Sis-ters of Ba-tle" how that gets mispronounced as "Bol-ter Bi-ches" is beyond me.
   
 
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