| Author |
Message |
 |
|
|
|
|
Advert
|
Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
- No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
- Times and dates in your local timezone.
- Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
- Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
- Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now. |
|
 |
2018/06/09 15:51:51
Subject: Female Imperial Knights
|
|
Preacher of the Emperor
Hanford, CA, AKA The Eye of Terror
|
 Maréchal des Logis Walter wrote:I couldn't care less about women in knights, mostly since you literally don't see them. If they want to put some, why not, but it's not important.
Actually the one thing that would be cool would be female IG infantry as far as I'm concerned. Others- I don't care.
Thankfully Victoria Miniatures can scratch that itch, she has an amazing line of female guardsman from different regiments. Its definitely worth the price!
As for the knights, its a great change, they even had a woman in the Knight commercial they made!
|
 17,000 points (Valhallan)
 10,000 points
 6,000 points (Order of Our Martyred Lady)
 Proud Countess of House Terryn hosting 7 Knights, 2 Dominus Knights, and 8 Armigers
Stormcast Eternals: 7,000 points
"Remember, Orks are weak and cowardly, they are easily beat in close combat and their tusks, while menacing, can easily be pulled out with a sharp tug"
-Imperial Guard Uplifting Primer |
|
|
 |
|
2018/06/09 16:18:00
Subject: Female Imperial Knights
|
|
Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter
|
 casvalremdeikun wrote:So, the Imperial Knights codex is out. And in it, there are several examples of female Imperial Knights. Up until this point, they were rare to the point that the only female Knight we had in the fluff was masquerading as a man.
What are your thoughts on this?
The Knight in Dawn of War is female, and open. There are plenty of others. I think remember hearing about at least one other in a book.
Otherwise, that's nice.
|
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/06/09 16:20:24
Guardsmen, hear me! Cadia may lie in ruin, but her proud people do not! For each brother and sister who gave their lives to Him as martyrs, we will reap a vengeance fiftyfold! Cadia may be no more, but will never be forgotten; our foes shall tremble in fear at the name, for their doom shall come from the barrels of Cadian guns, fired by Cadian hands! Forward, for vengeance and retribution, in His name and the names of our fallen comrades! |
|
|
|
|
2018/06/09 16:29:11
Subject: Female Imperial Knights
|
|
Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
|
Neat. Not super important, but neat.
|
Clocks for the clockmaker! Cogs for the cog throne! |
|
|
|
|
2018/06/09 16:35:54
Subject: Female Imperial Knights
|
|
Trazyn's Museum Curator
|
casvalremdeikun wrote:So, the Imperial Knights codex is out. And in it, there are several examples of female Imperial Knights. Up until this point, they were rare to the point that the only female Knight we had in the fluff was masquerading as a man. What are your thoughts on this?
Machines have gender now?  Shouldn't it be Imperial Knight Pilot?
|
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/06/09 17:50:57
What I have
 ~4100
 ~1660
Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
|
|
|
|
|
2018/06/09 16:40:19
Subject: Female Imperial Knights
|
|
Regular Dakkanaut
Right Behind You
|
This has me thinking now of the many depictions of women warriors I saw in books and movies growing up.
The badass woman knight pilot whose knight suddenly looses all power when one of its weapon arms is grabbed by a renegade knight.
|
|
|
|
|
2018/06/09 16:51:08
Subject: Female Imperial Knights
|
|
Steadfast Ultramarine Sergeant
|
In the gathering storm one of the the pilots from house raven was female. And I think she was a baron too
|
|
|
|
|
2018/06/09 17:07:25
Subject: Female Imperial Knights
|
|
Mighty Vampire Count
|
 fraser1191 wrote:In the gathering storm one of the the pilots from house raven was female. And I think she was a baron too
Baroness Varda - she is the senior Knight on Cadia in that period.
|
I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos 
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/528517.page
A Bloody Road - my Warhammer Fantasy Fiction |
|
|
|
|
2018/06/09 17:52:37
Subject: Re:Female Imperial Knights
|
|
Slippery Ultramarine Scout Biker
Barcelona, Spain
|
Not a knight, but I have a Rhino named "Angel's" with a Pin-Up lady on a door. In my fluff, the Machine Spirit is a female, very focused on taking her bois in blue to the 12" range for rapid-fire. She's also very good at auto-repairing
|
"Eventually, everything falls to a bolter" |
|
|
|
|
2018/06/09 19:07:26
Subject: Female Imperial Knights
|
|
Lord of the Fleet
|
 CthuluIsSpy wrote: casvalremdeikun wrote:So, the Imperial Knights codex is out. And in it, there are several examples of female Imperial Knights. Up until this point, they were rare to the point that the only female Knight we had in the fluff was masquerading as a man.
What are your thoughts on this?
Machines have gender now?
Shouldn't it be Imperial Knight Pilot?
Important to make that distinction before Doc Thunder finds this thread and starts rolling two giant balls of greenstuff for his Dominus.
|
|
|
|
|
2018/06/09 19:34:07
Subject: Female Imperial Knight Pilots
|
|
Longtime Dakkanaut
|
I like it. This broadening of representation is fantastic, in my mind.
|
|
|
|
|
2018/06/09 19:45:18
Subject: Female Imperial Knight Pilots
|
|
Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
|
drbored wrote:I like it. This broadening of representation is fantastic, in my mind.
Is it a Broadening though? Did the old book say they were all men or something?
I kinda just assumed they were always there due to games and novels etc.
|
|
|
|
|
2018/06/09 19:53:28
Subject: Female Imperial Knight Pilots
|
|
Regular Dakkanaut
|
As long as it isn`t part of some forced, poorly written SJW political propaganda, it`s all good..
|
|
|
|
|
2018/06/09 19:59:26
Subject: Female Imperial Knights
|
|
Trazyn's Museum Curator
|
 Scott-S6 wrote: CthuluIsSpy wrote: casvalremdeikun wrote:So, the Imperial Knights codex is out. And in it, there are several examples of female Imperial Knights. Up until this point, they were rare to the point that the only female Knight we had in the fluff was masquerading as a man.
What are your thoughts on this?
Machines have gender now?
Shouldn't it be Imperial Knight Pilot?
Important to make that distinction before Doc Thunder finds this thread and starts rolling two giant balls of greenstuff for his Dominus.
To denote a boy Dominus or a girl Dominus? It can go either way
|
What I have
~4100
~1660
Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
|
|
|
|
|
2018/06/09 20:31:47
Subject: Female Imperial Knights
|
|
Lord of the Fleet
|
CthuluIsSpy wrote: Scott-S6 wrote: CthuluIsSpy wrote: casvalremdeikun wrote:So, the Imperial Knights codex is out. And in it, there are several examples of female Imperial Knights. Up until this point, they were rare to the point that the only female Knight we had in the fluff was masquerading as a man.
What are your thoughts on this?
Machines have gender now?
Shouldn't it be Imperial Knight Pilot?
Important to make that distinction before Doc Thunder finds this thread and starts rolling two giant balls of greenstuff for his Dominus.
To denote a boy Dominus or a girl Dominus? It can go either way
With Doc Thunder it only goes one way.
|
|
|
|
|
2018/06/09 21:05:40
Subject: Female Imperial Knight Pilots
|
|
Mighty Vampire Count
|
 Formosa wrote:drbored wrote:I like it. This broadening of representation is fantastic, in my mind.
Is it a Broadening though? Did the old book say they were all men or something?
I kinda just assumed they were always there due to games and novels etc.
It did say that in inital codex and then as I said earlier they introduced a female pilot in the companion novel  .
Unlike the Astartes or Sororitas its not a branch of the Imperium that there is any reason to be completley mono gender (although some cultures / households might be) so its been retconned to have both represented in the main fluff of the codex's as well as the novels - as its been with Guard (and Stormcast).
Jolly good thing too 
|
I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/528517.page
A Bloody Road - my Warhammer Fantasy Fiction |
|
|
|
|
2018/06/09 21:25:54
Subject: Female Imperial Knight Pilots
|
|
Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
|
 Mr Morden wrote: Formosa wrote:drbored wrote:I like it. This broadening of representation is fantastic, in my mind.
Is it a Broadening though? Did the old book say they were all men or something?
I kinda just assumed they were always there due to games and novels etc.
It did say that in inital codex and then as I said earlier they introduced a female pilot in the companion novel .
Unlike the Astartes or Sororitas its not a branch of the Imperium that there is any reason to be completley mono gender (although some cultures / households might be) so its been retconned to have both represented in the main fluff of the codex's as well as the novels - as its been with Guard (and Stormcast).
Jolly good thing too
Ah so the codex explicitly said knight pilots could only be men before and now it doesn’t, where as the novels and games always showed the mix, gotcha
|
|
|
|
|
2018/06/09 21:38:23
Subject: Re:Female Imperial Knight Pilots
|
|
Regular Dakkanaut
|
My Knight Gallant is going to be called Black Betty with 2 similarly painted Armiger Helverins, the former will be piloted by a woman, I mean, it only makes sense to me.
|
|
|
|
|
2018/06/09 22:42:27
Subject: Re:Female Imperial Knight Pilots
|
|
Drop Trooper with Demo Charge
|
God dammit where are all the misogynists when you need them! How are you gonna make a point about the "problems" in the community now! 
But kidding aside why wouldn't there be female knight pilots? There's already plenty of precedents for them to be included and no real reason not to.
|
|
|
|
|
2018/06/09 22:46:51
Subject: Female Imperial Knight Pilots
|
|
Scarred Ultramarine Tyrannic War Veteran
McCragge
|
In Master of Mankind the leader of a household is a young woman and I think it’s cool.
|
Bow down to Guilliman for he is our new God Emperor!
Martel - "Custodes are terrible in 8th. Good luck with them. They take all the problems of marines and multiply them."
"Lol, classic martel. 'I know it was strong enough to podium in the biggest tournament in the world but I refuse to acknowledge space marines are good because I can't win with them and it can't possibly be ME'."
DakkaDakka is really the place where you need anti-tank guns to kill basic dudes, because anything less isn't durable enough. |
|
|
|
|
2018/06/09 23:21:56
Subject: Female Imperial Knights
|
|
Hallowed Canoness
|
 generalchaos34 wrote:Thankfully Victoria Miniatures can scratch that itch, she has an amazing line of female guardsman from different regiments. Its definitely worth the price!
If you can though, go for the guns that go with arms attached. The universal arms + separate guns take a LOT of work to assemble right . Automatically Appended Next Post: GW published a Knight live-action hype video and it has the bearded guy we saw first, some black knight, and some woman knight .
https://www.facebook.com/WarhammerTVteam/videos/590317224696593/UzpfSTE1NzU2ODI0NzYwODU3MTk6MjA0MDMwOTc0Mjk1NjMyMQ/
|
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/06/09 23:27:16
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1 |
|
|
|
|
2018/06/09 23:28:48
Subject: Female Imperial Knight Pilots
|
|
Longtime Dakkanaut
|
A real non-issue in my eyes since you never see the pilots. It's a bit like mentioning that there are female baneblade crew members. Ok? So what? Tbh it hadn't been something I'd considered, given the whole medieval nobility angle they were taking.
|
 iGuy91 wrote:You love the T-Rex. Its both a hero and a Villain in the first two movies. It is the "king" of dinosaurs. Its the best. You love your T-rex.
Then comes along the frakking Spinosaurus who kills the T-rex, and the movie says "LOVE THIS NOW! HE IS BETTER" But...in your heart, you love the T-rex, who shouldn't have lost to no stupid Spinosaurus. So you hate the movie. And refuse to love the Spinosaurus because it is a hamfisted attempt at taking what you loved, making it TREX +++ and trying to sell you it.
 Elbows wrote:You know what's better than a psychic phase? A psychic phase which asks customers to buy more miniatures... 
the_scotsman wrote:Dae think the company behind such names as deathwatch death guard deathskullz death marks death korps deathleaper death jester might be bad at naming?
|
|
|
|
|
2018/06/09 23:48:18
Subject: Female Imperial Knight Pilots
|
|
Dakka Veteran
|
No offense - but why is everyone so concerned about the lore changing?
Get over it.
|
|
|
|
|
2018/06/09 23:53:50
Subject: Re:Female Imperial Knight Pilots
|
|
Longtime Dakkanaut
|
Sasquatch wrote:God dammit where are all the misogynists when you need them! How are you gonna make a point about the "problems" in the community now!
Good question.
fe40k wrote:No offense - but why is everyone so concerned about the lore changing?
Get over it.
But the lack of hate in this thread is clearly not enough to stop some budding virtue signallers.
|
iGuy91 wrote:You love the T-Rex. Its both a hero and a Villain in the first two movies. It is the "king" of dinosaurs. Its the best. You love your T-rex.
Then comes along the frakking Spinosaurus who kills the T-rex, and the movie says "LOVE THIS NOW! HE IS BETTER" But...in your heart, you love the T-rex, who shouldn't have lost to no stupid Spinosaurus. So you hate the movie. And refuse to love the Spinosaurus because it is a hamfisted attempt at taking what you loved, making it TREX +++ and trying to sell you it.
Elbows wrote:You know what's better than a psychic phase? A psychic phase which asks customers to buy more miniatures...
the_scotsman wrote:Dae think the company behind such names as deathwatch death guard deathskullz death marks death korps deathleaper death jester might be bad at naming?
|
|
|
|
|
2018/06/10 00:18:33
Subject: Female Imperial Knight Pilots
|
|
Nasty Nob
Crescent City Fl..
|
There was a female pilot in Master of Mankind. I had no idea this was "new".
|
The rewards of tolerance are treachery and betrayal.
Remember kids, Games Workshop needs you more than you need them. |
|
|
|
|
2018/06/10 00:27:01
Subject: Female Imperial Knights
|
|
Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
Vigo. Spain.
|
Wha?! Is that really a black man for you? You know theres a great range of colours between whites and blacks, don't you?
Sorry but that just pisses me off, today you are white or black, when that guy is more brown than anything. Many people here would think hes just tanned, I have "white" friends that are naturally darker than him. That obsesion with skin colour, using the label black in anybody without a white-milk skin is just infuriating. So typical of people at the north of the Pyrenees...
|
 Crimson Devil wrote:
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote:Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
|
|
|
|
|
2018/06/10 01:57:11
Subject: Female Imperial Knights
|
|
Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
Phoenix, AZ, USA
|
 Galas wrote:
Wha?! Is that really a black man for you? You know theres a great range of colours between whites and blacks, don't you?
Sorry but that just pisses me off, today you are white or black, when that guy is more brown than anything. Many people here would think hes just tanned, I have "white" friends that are naturally darker than him. That obsesion with skin colour, using the label black in anybody without a white-milk skin is just infuriating. So typical of people at the north of the Pyrenees...
Pretty sure what you did is known as virtue signaling.
SJ
|
“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world.”
- Ephesians 6:12
|
|
|
|
|
2018/06/10 02:07:29
Subject: Female Imperial Knights
|
|
Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
Vigo. Spain.
|
 jeffersonian000 wrote: Galas wrote:
Wha?! Is that really a black man for you? You know theres a great range of colours between whites and blacks, don't you?
Sorry but that just pisses me off, today you are white or black, when that guy is more brown than anything. Many people here would think hes just tanned, I have "white" friends that are naturally darker than him. That obsesion with skin colour, using the label black in anybody without a white-milk skin is just infuriating. So typical of people at the north of the Pyrenees...
Pretty sure what you did is known as virtue signaling.
SJ
It wasn't intended as that, at this point I'm just pretty sick of people calling all people with a slighly tanned/darker/brown skin tone "black". You can't go to Morocco or Lebanon or Egipt and start calling them blacks. As I said, I have seen people from Spain darker than that guy, or at least as dark, and they are all considered "white". Is very typical for people from central or northern europe to do that.
But this is offtopic, so I'll stop here. Sorry.
|
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/06/10 02:09:30
Crimson Devil wrote:
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote:Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
|
|
|
|
|
2018/06/10 06:59:48
Subject: Re:Female Imperial Knight Pilots
|
|
Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
|
CREEEEEEEEED wrote:But the lack of hate in this thread is clearly not enough to stop some budding virtue signallers.
You mean stuff like this, right?
Phobosftw wrote:As long as it isn`t part of some forced, poorly written SJW political propaganda, it`s all good..
|
 lord_blackfang wrote:Respect to the guy who subscribed just to post a massive ASCII dong in the chat and immediately get banned.
 Flinty wrote:The benefit of slate is that its.actually a.rock with rock like properties. The downside is that it's a rock
|
|
|
|
|
2018/06/10 07:02:11
Subject: Re:Female Imperial Knight Pilots
|
|
Chaplain with Hate to Spare
|
 Ouze wrote:CREEEEEEEEED wrote:But the lack of hate in this thread is clearly not enough to stop some budding virtue signallers.
You mean stuff like this, right?
Phobosftw wrote:As long as it isn`t part of some forced, poorly written SJW political propaganda, it`s all good..
Yeah, I was kinda sitting back and waiting for this one.
|
 5250 pts
 3850 pts
Deathwatch: 1500 pts
Imperial Knights: 375 pts
30K  2500 pts |
|
|
|
|
2018/06/10 07:23:50
Subject: Female Imperial Knights
|
|
Trazyn's Museum Curator
|
Galas wrote:
Wha?! Is that really a black man for you? You know theres a great range of colours between whites and blacks, don't you?
Sorry but that just pisses me off, today you are white or black, when that guy is more brown than anything. Many people here would think hes just tanned, I have "white" friends that are naturally darker than him. That obsesion with skin colour, using the label black in anybody without a white-milk skin is just infuriating. So typical of people at the north of the Pyrenees...
Yeah, he's not black. A little tan, but not black.
|
What I have
~4100
~1660
Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
