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 nels1031 wrote:
Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in...

They had me at Bigfoot Erotica:

RICHMOND, Va. (AP) — Here’s a political attack you don’t hear every day — or ever: A Virginia congressional candidate says her opponent is unfit for office because he is a “devotee of Bigfoot erotica.”

Democrat Leslie Cockburn said on Twitter that Republican opponent Denver Riggleman fetishizes the mythical ape-like giant, sparking viral online interest in what’s surely the most out-there line of attack in this election cycle.

“This is not what we need on Capitol Hill,” Cockburn said in a tweet Sunday. Her posts included pictures from Riggleman’s Instagram account showing nude drawings of Bigfoot with his — assuming that the made-up creature is male — genitalia covered with a black rectangle.

“These images are very disturbing, I think everyone should just look at them to see who this candidate is,” Cockburn said in an interview.

But Riggleman said allegations that he’s into Sasquatch’s sex life are big hairy lies from a failing candidate.

“When people are desperate they do desperate things,” he said.

Riggleman, an Air Force veteran, said he and his military friends have been interested in people who believe Bigfoot is real for years. He’s listed as a co-author of a short online book detailing a Bigfoot hunt in 2006.

The drawings on his Instagram account are jokes, he said. One is from a birthday card from a friend, the other is a mock cover art for a satirical book he’s writing called “The Mating Habits of Bigfoot and Why Women Want Him.”

Riggleman said he’s found Cockburn’s attacks “hilarious” and warned that she was in danger of losing support of pro-Bigfoot potential constituents.

“She needs to learn her voters better,” Riggleman said, in jest.

Jokes aside, the bizarre back-and-forth over Bigfoot underscores the high stakes in a key race.

Cockburn and Riggleman are competing to represent Virginia’s 5th Congressional District, which stretches from northern Virginia to the North Carolina border. Incumbent Republican U.S. Rep. Tom Garrett announced earlier this year that he will not seek re-election to focus on a recovery from alcoholism.

The District is one of four currently GOP-held seats in Virginia that Democrats are bullish on their chances of flipping in this year’s election. That would go a long way in helping the party take control of the House. Nationwide, Democrats need to flip 24 seats to take a majority.

Republicans have been targeting Cockburn, a former investigative reporter and political newcomer, for months. Because of a 1991 book she wrote criticizing the U.S.’s relationship with Israel, opponents have called her anti-Semitic. She denies that claim.


fetishizes the mythical ape-like giant


Don't we all?

Literally the only thing that works for me anymore...

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 Ouze wrote:
 Xenomancers wrote:
Dude - I really have to express myself here. Just leave. I am sick of people like you that try control discussions with school yard bully type tactics. YOU are the problem. We are having a civilized discussion here. It is not helped by your condescending drivel.


When someone claims that the GOP can't pass a budget because the don't have 60 votes, and then when someone asks if the Dems are filibustering and that's the problem, and the answer is crickets (because they aren't and it isn't), then it's a lazy, effortless lie that assumes everyone else reading this thread is stupid. It's worthy of being pointed out as the hot garbage that it is and is not what most people consider a civilized conversation.

If you establish a track record of that kind of posting over years, then at some point people are going to get tired of you sucking the oxygen out of every thread. The people that are tired of debunking lazy, easily disproven lies aren't the problem here.

So far as the wall being built in 6 months, which is obviously impossible on pretty much every level, lets switch to one that you haven't mentioned: land rights. How do you imagine all of the eminent domain cases are going to be heard, appealed, and resolved within 6 months?

Did you know the Hoover Dam took 5 years to build, and a proposed wall 1000 miles long would be 3 times larger? And of course, this was a project that added value to the US and so didn't have a 60% disapproval on polling.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Hey, look at that. Rand Paul is going to vote for Brett Kavanaugh after all.

What an unexpected outcome to this high drama! A nail-biter until the very end, it was.


This is actually the kind of thing executive orders are for. Like when you have a massive government project important to national defense not get hog tied by legal minutia. The ED cases will be settled quickly. Not a significant problem. Obtaining funds and getting enough contractors to do the job quickly are the major obstacles.

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 Xenomancers wrote:
 Ouze wrote:
 Xenomancers wrote:
Dude - I really have to express myself here. Just leave. I am sick of people like you that try control discussions with school yard bully type tactics. YOU are the problem. We are having a civilized discussion here. It is not helped by your condescending drivel.


When someone claims that the GOP can't pass a budget because the don't have 60 votes, and then when someone asks if the Dems are filibustering and that's the problem, and the answer is crickets (because they aren't and it isn't), then it's a lazy, effortless lie that assumes everyone else reading this thread is stupid. It's worthy of being pointed out as the hot garbage that it is and is not what most people consider a civilized conversation.

If you establish a track record of that kind of posting over years, then at some point people are going to get tired of you sucking the oxygen out of every thread. The people that are tired of debunking lazy, easily disproven lies aren't the problem here.

So far as the wall being built in 6 months, which is obviously impossible on pretty much every level, lets switch to one that you haven't mentioned: land rights. How do you imagine all of the eminent domain cases are going to be heard, appealed, and resolved within 6 months?

Did you know the Hoover Dam took 5 years to build, and a proposed wall 1000 miles long would be 3 times larger? And of course, this was a project that added value to the US and so didn't have a 60% disapproval on polling.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Hey, look at that. Rand Paul is going to vote for Brett Kavanaugh after all.

What an unexpected outcome to this high drama! A nail-biter until the very end, it was.


This is actually the kind of thing executive orders are for. Like when you have a massive government project important to national defense not get hog tied by legal minutia.
Yes...because executive orders are not hog tied by legal minutiae...

Have we missed the court battles surrounding Trump's EOs?

An EO isn't any less subject to these things than congressional legislation is.

The ED cases will be settled quickly. Not a significant problem.
That's a lot of confidence...

ED cases take an average of 12-18 months, and there would be potentially many thousands of them across multiple states. It would be the biggest legal bonanza in living memory.

Obtaining funds and getting enough contractors to do the job quickly are the major obstacles.
And building the infrastructure out to these areas, creating an entire border surveillance system to make the wall actually functional, testing technologies and procedures, hiring tons of new border agents and developing the logistical backbone to man the new Festungs Rio wall, etc ad nauseum.




More to the point, I can't help but notice that basically this case is built on "well the President will just make it all happen by declaratory fiat and confiscate all the property necessary and that won't be a problem and bypass all those pesky legal protections." That is a...discomforting line of thinking.

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Spoken like someone who isn't in danger of having their property seized to build President Deals' ooh-what-a-big-wall-I-have vanity project.

I'm not even going to touch on the idea of this thing being vital for national defense.
   
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- There has been a meeting, but we didn’t know about it.
- There has been a meeting, but no collusion.
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 Spinner wrote:
Spoken like someone who isn't in danger of having their property seized to build President Deals' ooh-what-a-big-wall-I-have vanity project.

I'm not even going to touch on the idea of this thing being vital for national defense.

You don't get to determine what is vital to national defense. The commander and chief does.

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 Xenomancers wrote:
 Spinner wrote:
Spoken like someone who isn't in danger of having their property seized to build President Deals' ooh-what-a-big-wall-I-have vanity project.

I'm not even going to touch on the idea of this thing being vital for national defense.

You don't get to determine what is vital to national defense. The commander and chief does.


Both of them?

   
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 Spinner wrote:
 Xenomancers wrote:
 Spinner wrote:
Spoken like someone who isn't in danger of having their property seized to build President Deals' ooh-what-a-big-wall-I-have vanity project.

I'm not even going to touch on the idea of this thing being vital for national defense.

You don't get to determine what is vital to national defense. The commander and chief does.


Both of them?


Same guy.

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"How hard can it be?" and "It's easy!" has long been the war cries of the boorishly uninformed; people with an over-inflated sense of their own intellectual brilliance. There's a reason for why Socrates said he knew nothing entirely sincerely.

Insisting that a work on the scale of a US-Mexico border wall could be done easily in six months is, for lack of a better word, stupid; an argument born from a profound ignorance of even basic political reality. Insisting on being treated politely while wasting everyone's time with arguments that someone in junior high would understand is blatantly unworkable isn't just silly, it's wasting everyone's time, rude, and disrespectful.

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I just can't get over the thought of two rival candidates named Riggleman and Cockburn involved in an argument about Bigfoot Furry Slashfic.


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Is there some sort of disconnect somewhere? The US citizens calling themself conservative are against "big government" telling them what to do, yet somehow have no problem with the thought of Trump just bulldozing through all the legalities of building a wall? Why is this not an example of "big government" trampling all over the people?

A more honest way to look at it would surely be that they don't care at all about government actions that don't inconvenience them personally.
   
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 AlmightyWalrus wrote:
"How hard can it be?" and "It's easy!" has long been the war cries of the boorishly uninformed; people with an over-inflated sense of their own intellectual brilliance. There's a reason for why Socrates said he knew nothing entirely sincerely.

Insisting that a work on the scale of a US-Mexico border wall could be done easily in six months is, for lack of a better word, stupid; an argument born from a profound ignorance of even basic political reality. Insisting on being treated politely while wasting everyone's time with arguments that someone in junior high would understand is blatantly unworkable isn't just silly, it's wasting everyone's time, rude, and disrespectful.

You just don't want the wall to be built. That is pretty obvious. American ingenuity is a powerful thing. It can overcome any challenge. That is what I believe.

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 Vaktathi wrote:

The ED cases will be settled quickly. Not a significant problem.
That's a lot of confidence...

ED cases take an average of 12-18 months, and there would be potentially many thousands of them across multiple states. It would be the biggest legal bonanza in living memory.

On top of that there's people/groups like Cards Against Humanity who bought a decent sized plot and has stated they want the fight over it to take as long as possible, cost as much as possible, and have retained at least one lawyer who specializes in ED/land disputes.
 Xenomancers wrote:
 AlmightyWalrus wrote:
"How hard can it be?" and "It's easy!" has long been the war cries of the boorishly uninformed; people with an over-inflated sense of their own intellectual brilliance. There's a reason for why Socrates said he knew nothing entirely sincerely.

Insisting that a work on the scale of a US-Mexico border wall could be done easily in six months is, for lack of a better word, stupid; an argument born from a profound ignorance of even basic political reality. Insisting on being treated politely while wasting everyone's time with arguments that someone in junior high would understand is blatantly unworkable isn't just silly, it's wasting everyone's time, rude, and disrespectful.

You just don't want the wall to be built. That is pretty obvious. American ingenuity is a powerful thing. It can overcome any challenge. That is what I believe.

Again, don't feed the troll. They have no intention of good faith posting.

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Spetulhu wrote:
Is there some sort of disconnect somewhere? The US citizens calling themself conservative are against "big government" telling them what to do, yet somehow have no problem with the thought of Trump just bulldozing through all the legalities of building a wall? Why is this not an example of "big government" trampling all over the people?

A more honest way to look at it would surely be that they don't care at all about government actions that don't inconvenience them personally.

We aren't talking about going through the middle of the town with a road and taking away peoples homes to build a rail line...or a pipe line...or a road. Considering these are things that actually already happen. We are talking about mostly deserted land - building on to already established barriers - on land that never really should have been under anyone control but the governments.

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 Vaktathi wrote:
 Xenomancers wrote:
 Ouze wrote:
 Xenomancers wrote:
Dude - I really have to express myself here. Just leave. I am sick of people like you that try control discussions with school yard bully type tactics. YOU are the problem. We are having a civilized discussion here. It is not helped by your condescending drivel.


When someone claims that the GOP can't pass a budget because the don't have 60 votes, and then when someone asks if the Dems are filibustering and that's the problem, and the answer is crickets (because they aren't and it isn't), then it's a lazy, effortless lie that assumes everyone else reading this thread is stupid. It's worthy of being pointed out as the hot garbage that it is and is not what most people consider a civilized conversation.

If you establish a track record of that kind of posting over years, then at some point people are going to get tired of you sucking the oxygen out of every thread. The people that are tired of debunking lazy, easily disproven lies aren't the problem here.

So far as the wall being built in 6 months, which is obviously impossible on pretty much every level, lets switch to one that you haven't mentioned: land rights. How do you imagine all of the eminent domain cases are going to be heard, appealed, and resolved within 6 months?

Did you know the Hoover Dam took 5 years to build, and a proposed wall 1000 miles long would be 3 times larger? And of course, this was a project that added value to the US and so didn't have a 60% disapproval on polling.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Hey, look at that. Rand Paul is going to vote for Brett Kavanaugh after all.

What an unexpected outcome to this high drama! A nail-biter until the very end, it was.


This is actually the kind of thing executive orders are for. Like when you have a massive government project important to national defense not get hog tied by legal minutia.
Yes...because executive orders are not hog tied by legal minutiae...

Have we missed the court battles surrounding Trump's EOs?

An EO isn't any less subject to these things than congressional legislation is.

The ED cases will be settled quickly. Not a significant problem.
That's a lot of confidence...

ED cases take an average of 12-18 months, and there would be potentially many thousands of them across multiple states. It would be the biggest legal bonanza in living memory.

Obtaining funds and getting enough contractors to do the job quickly are the major obstacles.
And building the infrastructure out to these areas, creating an entire border surveillance system to make the wall actually functional, testing technologies and procedures, hiring tons of new border agents and developing the logistical backbone to man the new Festungs Rio wall, etc ad nauseum.




More to the point, I can't help but notice that basically this case is built on "well the President will just make it all happen by declaratory fiat and confiscate all the property necessary and that won't be a problem and bypass all those pesky legal protections." That is a...discomforting line of thinking.


That line of thinking is positively american don't you know?

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 Xenomancers wrote:
 AlmightyWalrus wrote:
"How hard can it be?" and "It's easy!" has long been the war cries of the boorishly uninformed; people with an over-inflated sense of their own intellectual brilliance. There's a reason for why Socrates said he knew nothing entirely sincerely.

Insisting that a work on the scale of a US-Mexico border wall could be done easily in six months is, for lack of a better word, stupid; an argument born from a profound ignorance of even basic political reality. Insisting on being treated politely while wasting everyone's time with arguments that someone in junior high would understand is blatantly unworkable isn't just silly, it's wasting everyone's time, rude, and disrespectful.

You just don't want the wall to be built. That is pretty obvious. American ingenuity is a powerful thing. It can overcome any challenge. That is what I believe.


Except for universal basic income and universal healthcare and getting all the child hostages back to their parents and passing a budget and...
   
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 Peregrine wrote:
Going to have to go back and respond to this, because it really demonstrates the fact-free world that many US conservatives are living in and the sheer absurdity of founding father worship.

 whembly wrote:
 Peregrine wrote:
 whembly wrote:
We think it’s the height of folly and hubris to accept that a few self-appointed experts can order things better than the collective wisdom of free people attempting to maximize their personal liberty and happiness.


And yet you accept that a few self-appointed experts can order things better than the collective wisdom of free people, as long as you call them "founding fathers". In fact, not only do you accept it, you make it a core principle of what it means to be conservative.

They're experts on the Constitutional Republic that we have... and understanding their intent goes a long way.


First of all, no, they weren't experts by any reasonable standard of the term "expert". As many founding father worshipers will point out, the idea of a republic with no monarchy was a fairly new concept with little history behind it. It's absurd to claim that the original founders had more knowledge and experience than political science experts 200 years later working with the benefit of not only US history, but also many other similar governments in other countries. There is no credible argument that they were exceptionally qualified relative to modern experts, only ridiculous hero worship and conservative ideology.

They built a system that allows for changes Peregrine. The system that we all live under... so, understanding the rationale for the things they've advocated goes a long way in how we should use such system to our desires.

It's not really an "appeal to authority" here.

Second, you're blatantly demonstrating my point about your double standard in response to an accusation of having that double standard. You originally claimed that it's hubris to suggest that a few self-appointed experts know better than the majority, and when called on the fact that US conservatives believe the exact opposite as long as you call the self-appointed experts "founding fathers" your response is to state that yes, you believe that we should listen to the self-appointed experts over the collective wisdom of the people. If the collective wisdom of the people is in fact what matters then that is true even when that collective wisdom says to change our government in ways that the founding fathers would have disagreed with. But, because you can't let go of conservative ideology even when it contradicts itself, you have to completely reverse your principle and reject the collective wisdom of the people in favor of a few self-appointed experts. And somehow you think that this works as long as you emphasize that the self-appointed experts are experts!

I can certainly see how you would view that... *shrug*.

My views hasn't changed nor do i think it's hypocritical as we have constitutional tools to affect change.

“Conservative” in the American political sense tends to mean a vision for government that is more modest in terms of size and scope than establishment Republicans and Democrats. It’s a political sphere more in line with the constitutional limits placed on the federal government at the founding.... or more precisely, a hearty defense of federalisms.


Except when it involves having a bigger military

True.


And here you admit that "conservative" does not mean small government. You openly accept the idea of spending vast amounts of money, more than every possible threat combined and far in excess of what is actually required for defense, as long as it goes to the military. You are perfectly happy to have a large and powerful government as long as that government is using its power in ways you approve of.

SMALLER government <> small government. It's the advocacy to take a hard looking at the scope & size of the government.

Furthermore, defense spending is literally the responsibility of the federal government. Sure, we can have a debate on how much we ought so spend on the military...or to make the case that the level of spending diverts too much from other domestic needs.... I welcome such debates. But, supporting the military at its current stated doesn't mean I've thrown out my conservative principles.

, or obsessing over what bathrooms people use,

Major overreaction... yes.


It is not an overreaction at all. Conservatives advocate exactly that: obsessing over what bathrooms people use, to the point of passing laws regulating the subject. Where is the authority to regulate bathroom use mentioned in the constitution? What commentary do your beloved founding fathers offer on the subject? Nowhere and none, of course. It's a clear case of the government exceeding its original scope for ideological reasons, but because those ideological reasons align with conservative doctrine it's acceptable. The idea of modest government as an inherently valuable principle disappears the moment conservatives see a way to use the power of the government to get something they want.

Okay.

or whatever the latest conservative desire for government intervention happens to be.

Conservatives does want an engaged governance, we don't want anarchy.


And here we see the solution: simply label anything conservatives want the government to do "engaged governance", and label everything else "big government" or "socialism" or whatever. Where is that principled demand for a minimal government bound by the explicitly stated powers found in the constitution? Nowhere. The only difference between conservatives and progressives is that the progressives are more honest about wanting a powerful government that does the things they want.

*I* demand a more federalist mode of governance where the fething 10th Amendment means something.

I get you have a hard-on against conservatives, but it's not a movement/ideology where you can fit it in a nice neat package. You can't even do that to progressives eithers.

Irrelevant minority? O.o Sure, there isn't really a "Conservative" wing in the political party (closet is probably the Freedom Caucus)... but, to say that we don't have any "pull" is literally burying your head in the sands....


Yes, they are an irrelevant minority. You have defined "conservative" so narrowly that no federal-level politician qualifies, and only a handful of voters might.

True there... the GOP federally are not a 'conservative' party.
Meanwhile your party elected, by a considerable margin, a president who is fine with big government and has little concern for limiting it by the constitution.

Indeed.... he's a New Yorker statist liberal and it boggles my mind that the democrats don't try to create fissures between Trump and the rest of the GOP.
Where was the "conservative" candidate by your standards?

They didn't win the primary, unfortunately.
Somewhere in the pile of irrelevant fringe lunatics who couldn't even get a seat in the debates, won essentially zero percent of the votes in the primaries, and dropped out after using the election as little more than an opportunity to sell more copies of their book.

Harsh... but not wrong.

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 Kilkrazy wrote:
5. Crimes don't matter because the President can give a pardon.

And here's where I think Trump will definitely be a 1 term President who won't run for 2nd term.

Mueller may have to go after his family (ie, Jr/Ivanka/Kushner) to get the real deets on any conspiracy. If so, I can see Trump handing out pardons to everyone and anyone in his orbit, rather than firing Mueller (and Rosenstien if he refuses).

There’s nothing Mueller could do except try to argue that the pardons are themselves further evidence of intent to obstruct, but let's be honest here...when Democrats take of the House next year (they will), you know they're going to pass the Article of Impeachment against Trump, however the Senate won't pick it up because removing the potus from office for using a constitutional power, however dubiously, in which virtually everyone acknowledges is plenary, won't happen. But I think the backlash would be so intense that Democratic enthusiasm to vote in 2020 would reach such a zenith that it'd be an electoral disaster for the GOP.

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 Xenomancers wrote:
Rand Paul was my candidate. He didn't make it very far. Not sure why.


The GOP fell for the easily disproved lies of a known fraud and con man.

Why did the GOP fall for those easily disproved lies, and why did they ignore that fact that he is a known fraud and con man, that's the hard question the GOP needs to ask themselves.

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 nels1031 wrote:
Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in...

They had me at Bigfoot Erotica:

RICHMOND, Va. (AP) — Here’s a political attack you don’t hear every day — or ever: A Virginia congressional candidate says her opponent is unfit for office because he is a “devotee of Bigfoot erotica.”

Democrat Leslie Cockburn said on Twitter that Republican opponent Denver Riggleman fetishizes the mythical ape-like giant, sparking viral online interest in what’s surely the most out-there line of attack in this election cycle.

“This is not what we need on Capitol Hill,” Cockburn said in a tweet Sunday. Her posts included pictures from Riggleman’s Instagram account showing nude drawings of Bigfoot with his — assuming that the made-up creature is male — genitalia covered with a black rectangle.

“These images are very disturbing, I think everyone should just look at them to see who this candidate is,” Cockburn said in an interview.

But Riggleman said allegations that he’s into Sasquatch’s sex life are big hairy lies from a failing candidate.

“When people are desperate they do desperate things,” he said.

Riggleman, an Air Force veteran, said he and his military friends have been interested in people who believe Bigfoot is real for years. He’s listed as a co-author of a short online book detailing a Bigfoot hunt in 2006.

The drawings on his Instagram account are jokes, he said. One is from a birthday card from a friend, the other is a mock cover art for a satirical book he’s writing called “The Mating Habits of Bigfoot and Why Women Want Him.”

Riggleman said he’s found Cockburn’s attacks “hilarious” and warned that she was in danger of losing support of pro-Bigfoot potential constituents.

“She needs to learn her voters better,” Riggleman said, in jest.

Jokes aside, the bizarre back-and-forth over Bigfoot underscores the high stakes in a key race.

Cockburn and Riggleman are competing to represent Virginia’s 5th Congressional District, which stretches from northern Virginia to the North Carolina border. Incumbent Republican U.S. Rep. Tom Garrett announced earlier this year that he will not seek re-election to focus on a recovery from alcoholism.

The District is one of four currently GOP-held seats in Virginia that Democrats are bullish on their chances of flipping in this year’s election. That would go a long way in helping the party take control of the House. Nationwide, Democrats need to flip 24 seats to take a majority.

Republicans have been targeting Cockburn, a former investigative reporter and political newcomer, for months. Because of a 1991 book she wrote criticizing the U.S.’s relationship with Israel, opponents have called her anti-Semitic. She denies that claim.


fetishizes the mythical ape-like giant


Don't we all?

I find it funny that her name is Cockburn...

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Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in...

They had me at Bigfoot Erotica:

RICHMOND, Va. (AP) — Here’s a political attack you don’t hear every day — or ever: A Virginia congressional candidate says her opponent is unfit for office because he is a “devotee of Bigfoot erotica.”

Democrat Leslie Cockburn said on Twitter that Republican opponent Denver Riggleman fetishizes the mythical ape-like giant, sparking viral online interest in what’s surely the most out-there line of attack in this election cycle.

“This is not what we need on Capitol Hill,” Cockburn said in a tweet Sunday. Her posts included pictures from Riggleman’s Instagram account showing nude drawings of Bigfoot with his — assuming that the made-up creature is male — genitalia covered with a black rectangle.

“These images are very disturbing, I think everyone should just look at them to see who this candidate is,” Cockburn said in an interview.

But Riggleman said allegations that he’s into Sasquatch’s sex life are big hairy lies from a failing candidate.

“When people are desperate they do desperate things,” he said.

Riggleman, an Air Force veteran, said he and his military friends have been interested in people who believe Bigfoot is real for years. He’s listed as a co-author of a short online book detailing a Bigfoot hunt in 2006.

The drawings on his Instagram account are jokes, he said. One is from a birthday card from a friend, the other is a mock cover art for a satirical book he’s writing called “The Mating Habits of Bigfoot and Why Women Want Him.”

Riggleman said he’s found Cockburn’s attacks “hilarious” and warned that she was in danger of losing support of pro-Bigfoot potential constituents.

“She needs to learn her voters better,” Riggleman said, in jest.

Jokes aside, the bizarre back-and-forth over Bigfoot underscores the high stakes in a key race.

Cockburn and Riggleman are competing to represent Virginia’s 5th Congressional District, which stretches from northern Virginia to the North Carolina border. Incumbent Republican U.S. Rep. Tom Garrett announced earlier this year that he will not seek re-election to focus on a recovery from alcoholism.

The District is one of four currently GOP-held seats in Virginia that Democrats are bullish on their chances of flipping in this year’s election. That would go a long way in helping the party take control of the House. Nationwide, Democrats need to flip 24 seats to take a majority.

Republicans have been targeting Cockburn, a former investigative reporter and political newcomer, for months. Because of a 1991 book she wrote criticizing the U.S.’s relationship with Israel, opponents have called her anti-Semitic. She denies that claim.


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Don't we all?

I find it funny that her name is Cockburn...

The real question is if they have to bleep the debates anytime anyone says her name.

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Again, Pence could save us all by just shooting Trump and pardoning himself, Trump said Presidents could do so himself and he is never wrong!


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 nels1031 wrote:
Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in...

They had me at Bigfoot Erotica:

RICHMOND, Va. (AP) — Here’s a political attack you don’t hear every day — or ever: A Virginia congressional candidate says her opponent is unfit for office because he is a “devotee of Bigfoot erotica.”

Democrat Leslie Cockburn said on Twitter that Republican opponent Denver Riggleman fetishizes the mythical ape-like giant, sparking viral online interest in what’s surely the most out-there line of attack in this election cycle.

“This is not what we need on Capitol Hill,” Cockburn said in a tweet Sunday. Her posts included pictures from Riggleman’s Instagram account showing nude drawings of Bigfoot with his — assuming that the made-up creature is male — genitalia covered with a black rectangle.

“These images are very disturbing, I think everyone should just look at them to see who this candidate is,” Cockburn said in an interview.

But Riggleman said allegations that he’s into Sasquatch’s sex life are big hairy lies from a failing candidate.

“When people are desperate they do desperate things,” he said.

Riggleman, an Air Force veteran, said he and his military friends have been interested in people who believe Bigfoot is real for years. He’s listed as a co-author of a short online book detailing a Bigfoot hunt in 2006.

The drawings on his Instagram account are jokes, he said. One is from a birthday card from a friend, the other is a mock cover art for a satirical book he’s writing called “The Mating Habits of Bigfoot and Why Women Want Him.”

Riggleman said he’s found Cockburn’s attacks “hilarious” and warned that she was in danger of losing support of pro-Bigfoot potential constituents.

“She needs to learn her voters better,” Riggleman said, in jest.

Jokes aside, the bizarre back-and-forth over Bigfoot underscores the high stakes in a key race.

Cockburn and Riggleman are competing to represent Virginia’s 5th Congressional District, which stretches from northern Virginia to the North Carolina border. Incumbent Republican U.S. Rep. Tom Garrett announced earlier this year that he will not seek re-election to focus on a recovery from alcoholism.

The District is one of four currently GOP-held seats in Virginia that Democrats are bullish on their chances of flipping in this year’s election. That would go a long way in helping the party take control of the House. Nationwide, Democrats need to flip 24 seats to take a majority.

Republicans have been targeting Cockburn, a former investigative reporter and political newcomer, for months. Because of a 1991 book she wrote criticizing the U.S.’s relationship with Israel, opponents have called her anti-Semitic. She denies that claim.


fetishizes the mythical ape-like giant


Don't we all?

I find it funny that her name is Cockburn...

The real question is if they have to bleep the debates anytime anyone says her name.


Cockburn is usually pronounced "Coburn"

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 Disciple of Fate wrote:
Again, Pence could save us all by just shooting Trump and pardoning himself, Trump said Presidents could do so himself and he is never wrong!


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 Iron_Captain wrote:
 nels1031 wrote:
Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in...

They had me at Bigfoot Erotica:

RICHMOND, Va. (AP) — Here’s a political attack you don’t hear every day — or ever: A Virginia congressional candidate says her opponent is unfit for office because he is a “devotee of Bigfoot erotica.”

Democrat Leslie Cockburn said on Twitter that Republican opponent Denver Riggleman fetishizes the mythical ape-like giant, sparking viral online interest in what’s surely the most out-there line of attack in this election cycle.

“This is not what we need on Capitol Hill,” Cockburn said in a tweet Sunday. Her posts included pictures from Riggleman’s Instagram account showing nude drawings of Bigfoot with his — assuming that the made-up creature is male — genitalia covered with a black rectangle.

“These images are very disturbing, I think everyone should just look at them to see who this candidate is,” Cockburn said in an interview.

But Riggleman said allegations that he’s into Sasquatch’s sex life are big hairy lies from a failing candidate.

“When people are desperate they do desperate things,” he said.

Riggleman, an Air Force veteran, said he and his military friends have been interested in people who believe Bigfoot is real for years. He’s listed as a co-author of a short online book detailing a Bigfoot hunt in 2006.

The drawings on his Instagram account are jokes, he said. One is from a birthday card from a friend, the other is a mock cover art for a satirical book he’s writing called “The Mating Habits of Bigfoot and Why Women Want Him.”

Riggleman said he’s found Cockburn’s attacks “hilarious” and warned that she was in danger of losing support of pro-Bigfoot potential constituents.

“She needs to learn her voters better,” Riggleman said, in jest.

Jokes aside, the bizarre back-and-forth over Bigfoot underscores the high stakes in a key race.

Cockburn and Riggleman are competing to represent Virginia’s 5th Congressional District, which stretches from northern Virginia to the North Carolina border. Incumbent Republican U.S. Rep. Tom Garrett announced earlier this year that he will not seek re-election to focus on a recovery from alcoholism.

The District is one of four currently GOP-held seats in Virginia that Democrats are bullish on their chances of flipping in this year’s election. That would go a long way in helping the party take control of the House. Nationwide, Democrats need to flip 24 seats to take a majority.

Republicans have been targeting Cockburn, a former investigative reporter and political newcomer, for months. Because of a 1991 book she wrote criticizing the U.S.’s relationship with Israel, opponents have called her anti-Semitic. She denies that claim.


fetishizes the mythical ape-like giant


Don't we all?

I find it funny that her name is Cockburn...

The real question is if they have to bleep the debates anytime anyone says her name.


Cockburn is usually pronounced "Coburn"


Found the guy named Cockburn.
   
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Found the guy named Cockburn.


Bruce Cockburn is a Canadian treasure, my dude

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 Spinner wrote:
Found the guy named Cockburn.


Bruce Cockburn is a Canadian treasure, my dude


That's not a no, though...

   
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Rand Paul was my candidate. He didn't make it very far. Not sure why.

Because he played footsie with his dad's fringe supporters... (he questioned that the Federal Reserves ought to be under Congressional oversight and openly wanted discussions on whether it would be a good idea to go back to the gold standards... which is lunacy).

Plus, he doesn't have the name recognition of Trump.

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GOP hasn't changed the filibuster rules on budgets. So, any budgets (in traditional sense) will still need 60 votes to pass clotures.


So is that why the US is still without a budget?

Partly... but, I think it's mostly because there's no appetite to fight the Democrats over spending. Hence they wait the last minutes to pass the "Must Pass" Omnibus bills.

The Dems in senate are filibustering?

Not at the moment.

There's a finite amount of time and the Senate prioritizes other things over passing budgets the right way.

I'm not a fan of that, as passing budgets is like the most fundamental things Congress does... but, I understand the rationale.


So the Dems are not, but they might, so the GOP shouldn't even try?

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