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2019/07/25 10:34:16
Subject: Star Trek: general discussion :Picard trailer p#16
Voss wrote: Well, at least Spiner has a couple reasons to not be dead in this (unlike his character in another sequel).
Whats with the weird Vulcan(?) with the sword (?). His face looks heavily CGI'd for no reason I can discern. I hereby dub him Samurai Elf.
I think its a Romulan.
Whichever.
Though thinking about it, I'm surprised the actor wasn't a background character in the Very Special Episodes where Picard, Data and Spock try to bring True Freedom to Romulus. The running gag for the trailer seems to be to tie in as many minor TNG plot points as possible.
If he ends up being Tasha Yar's grandson, I'm gonna yark.
Efficiency is the highest virtue.
2019/07/25 14:57:32
Subject: Star Trek: general discussion :Picard trailer p#16
Voss wrote: This looks like its going to be 'Misfits and Renegades visit the seedy hidden underbellies of Utopia and the Admirals/Section 31 are always evil.'
So, we're still not getting any real trek then. :(
2019/07/25 15:32:25
Subject: Star Trek: general discussion :Picard trailer p#16
LordofHats wrote: It does sound increasing like someone watched Star Trek Renegades and for some god awful reason thought that god awful movie had redeeming value.
What is wrong with a return to the old formula? It worked for three god damned shows!
2019/07/25 20:18:23
Subject: Star Trek: general discussion :Picard trailer p#16
CBS All Access is doing six Star Trek shorts, four of which take place on the Enterprise during Pike's command. One is about Spock's first day assigned to the ship and one will somehow relate to Tribbles. I don't know much more than that but as I understand it there was info at SDCC about them.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
2019/07/25 20:40:07
Subject: Star Trek: general discussion :Picard trailer p#16
Ahtman wrote: CBS All Access is doing six Star Trek shorts, four of which take place on the Enterprise during Pike's command. One is about Spock's first day assigned to the ship and one will somehow relate to Tribbles. I don't know much more than that but as I understand it there was info at SDCC about them.
Still waiting to hear about:
What happened to Ben Sisko after the final episode.
What happened to Cardassia.
What happened to and with the Dominion remnants.
Did the Romulans go back to being dicks or did they become more amiable?
What became of the Borg after unimatrix 01?
What changes did Janeway's time traveling make?
Did Bajor join the federation?
Did Martok and Worf lead the Klingon empire out of its decadent ways?
Was Lore ever reactivated and fixed?
What became of the Ferengi Alliance under the leadership of Rom?
Did Nog make captain?
CBS:
Here we're going to make some tribble shorts and let picard run around with a bunch of samurai trying to "pReVeNt Da EnD oF Al L ThInGs!!! huuuur durrrr"
2019/07/26 04:24:51
Subject: Star Trek: general discussion :Picard trailer p#16
I agree with you on that score Togusa, but still, the trailer and the delay have made me marginally more optimistic.
That's still only enough to raise me from "utterly disinterested" to "paying some minimal attention", but if I'm honest that's as much as CBS could hope to get out of me for anything short of an announcement that CBS and Viacom had re-merged, sacked Kurtzman & Co, dismissed the whole Discoverse as some weird alternate reality to which season 3 of STD would provide a definitive close, and hired on some talent with serious fan-cred to go forward.
I hold no illusions that Picard will live up to TNG, but if the delays were to end up being indicative of reshoots to bring the tone & aesthetic more into line with classic Trek as was previously rumoured, then it could maybe rise to the level of the better TNG-era movies.
In other words, we're almost certainly not getting Measure of a Man, but we might get a knockoff of First Contact, and that's probably the very best we could hope for out of the present bunch of galoots running the show.
"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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2019/07/26 11:36:47
Subject: Star Trek: general discussion :Picard trailer p#16
Ok, sure it's not 'official' but it gives at least some measure of closure on various things. Last year they did a big DS9 set of missions, that, while it didn't do Sisko, did resolve a lot of other arcs, in their own way. And had the voices of most of the main DS9 cast to do so.
Honestly, for a 'free to play' game, there's a huge amount of proper content in it and I honestly think you could play through the whole thing without paying a penny quite comfortably.
2019/07/26 11:53:36
Subject: Star Trek: general discussion :Picard trailer p#16
STO has near zero replay value without paying money (it’s all about pay to be good micro transactions now), but it does have a heaping hunk of story content and player made adventures.
Unfortunately STO doesn’t answer a lot of those questions either. Many of the returning cast and figures are always kind of just off center stage and some of the later storylines are really contrived.
What happened to Cardassia.
What happened to and with the Dominion remnants.
Did the Romulans go back to being dicks or did they become more amiable?
Did Bajor join the federation?
Did Martok and Worf lead the Klingon empire out of its decadent ways?
What became of the Ferengi Alliance under the leadership of Rom?
Did Nog make captain?
The way I see it, a free to play game with what's got to be well over a hundred missions by now, wouldn't necessarily need a lot of replay value, because it's free. - You could play through, enjoy your time in the story, and world, then put it down again not having lost anything, except the time spent enjoying the story and world.
2019/07/26 13:38:53
Subject: Star Trek: general discussion :Picard trailer p#16
Voss wrote: This looks like its going to be 'Misfits and Renegades visit the seedy hidden underbellies of Utopia and the Admirals/Section 31 are always evil.'
So, we're still not getting any real trek then. :(
Well, the Admirals are Secretly Evil is a consistent and very, very repetitive refrain from the TNG era. So its real Trek in a way.
There's the racist one with the McCarthy trials aimed at mixed blood Romulans
The other sort of 'robo-racist' one that tries to claim Data and his 'daughter' as property
The breaking treaties with cloaking devices one
The whole passel that are <secretly working for/possessed by/actually are> gooey, spindly and laughable alien puppets (a plot that goes nowhere and gets abandoned because it was just that bad)
Various ones (including in DS9) that go secret police crazy, are involved in cover ups, Bad Science or whatever.
The episodes tended to be bad, but it was a definitely a large element of 'real trek'
As for Lore being reactivated and fixed, I still think we're going to see that (and Picard teaching Lore the Right Way to be Human) rather than a Picard and Data buddy show.
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2019/07/26 14:34:32
Subject: Star Trek: general discussion :Picard trailer p#16
LordofHats wrote: STO has near zero replay value without paying money (it’s all about pay to be good micro transactions now), but it does have a heaping hunk of story content and player made adventures.
Unfortunately STO doesn’t answer a lot of those questions either. Many of the returning cast and figures are always kind of just off center stage and some of the later storylines are really contrived.
They also sadly no longer have the player made content either, it got shut down recently.
"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal
2019/07/26 15:27:42
Subject: Star Trek: general discussion :Picard trailer p#16
Well that’s another one in the “let’s ruin a good f2p game” column. Oh well. It’s been going downhill ever since Agents of Yesterday and it’s naked and empty pandering.
Any news from the "biggest trek convention" going on right now in Las Vegas? It's been two days and none of the youtubers that typically cover trek (whether negatively or positively) have posted any notable news. Did CBS blow their was at SDCC and have nothing more to report of am I missing it all?
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2019/08/03 07:05:22
Subject: Star Trek: general discussion :Picard trailer p#16
StraightSilver wrote: My theory is that the girl is Chakotay and Seven's daughter - some sort of Borg/Human hybrid.
Given the strong appearances of what I assume are Romulans, I wouldn't be surprised to see some of that green bloodedness thrown into a mix of human and borg (and hell. . . maybe somehow even Klingon? )
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LordofHats wrote: Well that’s another one in the “let’s ruin a good f2p game” column. Oh well. It’s been going downhill ever since Agents of Yesterday and it’s naked and empty pandering.
Apparently the player generated content was based on code from nearly a couple generations of game code previously. . . Essentially, anyone who had a hand in creating the Foundry code is long gone, and as a result, ANY updates to the game broke the Foundry for days afterward.
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2019/08/03 11:46:53
Subject: Re:Star Trek: general discussion :Picard trailer p#16
IDW will publish a three-issue prequel comic tying into CBS’s Star Trek: Picard in November, CBS revealed in a press release. Star Trek: Picard – Countdown will be written by Mike Johnson along with Picard producer Kirsten Beyer, exploring a life-changing mission for the titular captain. In addition to the comic, Simon & Schuster Gallery Books will publish The Last Best Hope, a prequel novel (one without pictures), in February, written by Una McCormack.
Both books will be set in continuity and connected to the Picard TV series, based on the bald guy from the popular internet meme, which will debut on CBS All Access next year. In the show, the man from the meme plays the captain of a space ship.
New York, NY (August 1, 2019) – CBS Consumer Products, in association with Simon & Shuster’s Gallery Books and IDW, today announced a pair of prequels created to shed light on the events leading into the new CBS series Star Trek: Picard.
Starting in November, IDW will release Star Trek: Picard – Countdown, a deluxe 3-issue miniseries written by Mike Johnson and series Supervising Producer Kirsten Beyer. This countdown event centers around a mission that would go on to change the life of beloved Star Trek captain Jean-Luc Picard – widely considered to be one of the most popular and recognizable characters in all of science fiction.
Following that series concluding, Simon & Schuster Gallery Books will release The Last Best Hope in February 2020. Written by Una McCormack, the novel will also lead directly into the show and continue to introduce fans to brand new characters featured in the series. McCormack is the author of eight previous Star Trek novels including The Lotus Flower (part of The Worlds of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine), Hollow Men, Enigma Tales, The Way to the Stars, and the New York Times bestseller The Fall: The Crimson Shadow.
As part of the upcoming release of their next series Star Trek: Picard, CBS will be releasing two new specialty wines in the theme of the series. CBS Consumer Products have licensed the first of two new wines with Wines That Rock which will be released in conjunction with the show. They are a 2016 Chateau Picard Cru Bourgeois from Bordeaux, France, and a Special Reserve United Federation of Planets Old Vine Zinfandel.
As part of the release, the first 1701 two-bottle combo packs include a numbered, limited edition of the United Federation of Planets Special Reserve. Those first 1701 collectors will have priority notices on all future releases so they can get the next batches of wine ahead of time. As part of the promotion, the wines will be featured this week at Star Trek Las Vegas. You can read more about the wines below along with a quote from the announcement this week.
Wines That Rock has teamed with the actual Chateau Picard vineyard to introduce the Star Trek Chateau Picard wine. The 2016 Chateau Picard Bordeaux is an 85% Cabernet Sauvignon and 15% Merlot blend that is subtly smoky and spicy with a bright, fresh, clean-tasting style. The wine spends 14 months in oak, 70% seasoned and 30% new.
The United Federation of Planets wine is a 2017 Old Vine Zinfandel from across the Dry Creek & Russian River Valleys in Sonoma County, CA. It is a blend of 87% Zinfandel, 12% Petit Sirah and 1% Syrah. It has aromatics of concentrated strawberry, blackberry and plum preserves with a chewy-layered mid-palate filled with hints of white peppercorn, sweet red and black fruit. Elegant, stately and dignified are but a few words to describe the wine that Federation dignitaries might enjoy at their gatherings.
“Star Trek Wines has brought out the true passions of our entire team. It was a unique opportunity to work with award-winning winemakers and the CBS Consumer Products team to create a collection with authentic stories,” said Wines That Rock’s President Howard Jackowitz. “Our goal has been to produce small batch, limited-edition, collectible wines that we as fans want to own. This is what we are all about – creating a product that is genuine with a great story behind it. Live long and prosper!”
...Gather it's a fruity and strong bodied wine with subtle hints of charred nephew.
... too soon ?
The previous posts and the above led me to various trek sites....
.. I know there's a LOT of trek novels -- and being the completist I am this is one of the reasons I can never delve into them -- but I had no idea about Picard and Crusher's son, who he maries etc etc and so forth.
Good grief.
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We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
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2019/08/03 13:03:30
Subject: Re:Star Trek: general discussion :Picard trailer p#16
...Gather it's a fruity and strong bodied wine with subtle hints of charred nephew.
... too soon ?
The previous posts and the above led me to various trek sites....
.. I know there's a LOT of trek novels -- and being the completist I am this is one of the reasons I can never delve into them -- but I had no idea about Picard and Crusher's son, who he maries etc etc and so forth.
Good grief.
My hope is that the Chateau Picard isn't vinegary and past its date. Strangely enough, I worry about the same thing for the show.
As for the novels, I remember reading many good ones during the 80's and 90's as a kid but haven't kept up in the past 20 years. Alot of those really good earlier ones have been completely invalidated by subsequent TV shows from TNG to STD so that might be another reason to not get it if reading retconned background bothers you. If a wine brand and a revamped version of a decade old comic are the only real news from what they billed as the biggest trek only convention in the world, I feel a bit sorry for the folks paying upwards of a thousand dollars including travel expenses to be there. :(
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2019/08/06 02:36:34
Subject: Re:Star Trek: general discussion :Picard trailer p#16
IDW will publish a three-issue prequel comic tying into CBS’s Star Trek: Picard in November, CBS revealed in a press release. Star Trek: Picard – Countdown will be written by Mike Johnson along with Picard producer Kirsten Beyer, exploring a life-changing mission for the titular captain. In addition to the comic, Simon & Schuster Gallery Books will publish The Last Best Hope, a prequel novel (one without pictures), in February, written by Una McCormack.
Both books will be set in continuity and connected to the Picard TV series, based on the bald guy from the popular internet meme, which will debut on CBS All Access next year. In the show, the man from the meme plays the captain of a space ship.
New York, NY (August 1, 2019) – CBS Consumer Products, in association with Simon & Shuster’s Gallery Books and IDW, today announced a pair of prequels created to shed light on the events leading into the new CBS series Star Trek: Picard.
Starting in November, IDW will release Star Trek: Picard – Countdown, a deluxe 3-issue miniseries written by Mike Johnson and series Supervising Producer Kirsten Beyer. This countdown event centers around a mission that would go on to change the life of beloved Star Trek captain Jean-Luc Picard – widely considered to be one of the most popular and recognizable characters in all of science fiction.
Following that series concluding, Simon & Schuster Gallery Books will release The Last Best Hope in February 2020. Written by Una McCormack, the novel will also lead directly into the show and continue to introduce fans to brand new characters featured in the series. McCormack is the author of eight previous Star Trek novels including The Lotus Flower (part of The Worlds of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine), Hollow Men, Enigma Tales, The Way to the Stars, and the New York Times bestseller The Fall: The Crimson Shadow.
As part of the upcoming release of their next series Star Trek: Picard, CBS will be releasing two new specialty wines in the theme of the series. CBS Consumer Products have licensed the first of two new wines with Wines That Rock which will be released in conjunction with the show. They are a 2016 Chateau Picard Cru Bourgeois from Bordeaux, France, and a Special Reserve United Federation of Planets Old Vine Zinfandel.
As part of the release, the first 1701 two-bottle combo packs include a numbered, limited edition of the United Federation of Planets Special Reserve. Those first 1701 collectors will have priority notices on all future releases so they can get the next batches of wine ahead of time. As part of the promotion, the wines will be featured this week at Star Trek Las Vegas. You can read more about the wines below along with a quote from the announcement this week.
Wines That Rock has teamed with the actual Chateau Picard vineyard to introduce the Star Trek Chateau Picard wine. The 2016 Chateau Picard Bordeaux is an 85% Cabernet Sauvignon and 15% Merlot blend that is subtly smoky and spicy with a bright, fresh, clean-tasting style. The wine spends 14 months in oak, 70% seasoned and 30% new.
The United Federation of Planets wine is a 2017 Old Vine Zinfandel from across the Dry Creek & Russian River Valleys in Sonoma County, CA. It is a blend of 87% Zinfandel, 12% Petit Sirah and 1% Syrah. It has aromatics of concentrated strawberry, blackberry and plum preserves with a chewy-layered mid-palate filled with hints of white peppercorn, sweet red and black fruit. Elegant, stately and dignified are but a few words to describe the wine that Federation dignitaries might enjoy at their gatherings.
“Star Trek Wines has brought out the true passions of our entire team. It was a unique opportunity to work with award-winning winemakers and the CBS Consumer Products team to create a collection with authentic stories,” said Wines That Rock’s President Howard Jackowitz. “Our goal has been to produce small batch, limited-edition, collectible wines that we as fans want to own. This is what we are all about – creating a product that is genuine with a great story behind it. Live long and prosper!”
...Gather it's a fruity and strong bodied wine with subtle hints of charred nephew.
... too soon ?
The previous posts and the above led me to various trek sites....
.. I know there's a LOT of trek novels -- and being the completist I am this is one of the reasons I can never delve into them -- but I had no idea about Picard and Crusher's son, who he maries etc etc and so forth.
Well, the convention ended a week ago in Vegas and I haven't seen anything other than what I'd consider to be trivial "news" announced at the con. At least one congoer seems to confirm my suspicions/fears unfortunately that they announced everything they had at SDCC and left nothing of note for the most dedicated fans at STLV. YMMV as always in case someone here was really happy for tiny nuggets of info about the upcoming Lower Decks cartoon.
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2019/08/12 10:47:24
Subject: Star Trek: general discussion :Picard trailer p#16
Thargrim wrote: That wine would look great next to my blade runner 2049 johnnie walker bottle. Don't even want to know the cost though.
In that case, photoshop the label, stick it on a empty wine bottle and fill it with Ribena. A shelf of novelty drinks bottles from various fiction properties would be cool*, but the actual contents of those bottles would be irrelevant - tap water and ink will do just as well.
* for a … specialised value of "cool"
2019/09/29 12:26:16
Subject: Re:Star Trek: general discussion :Picard trailer p#16
Make-up chair resistance is futile! In preparation for his upcoming role on CBS All Access‘s Star Trek: Picard, actor Jonathan Del Arco had to do some modeling in the make-up trailer. However, rather than walking down a runway, Del Arco was covered in grey goop. Del Arco took to Twitter to share a time-lapse video of Picard crew members making a cast of his face on set. If you look carefully at the below video, you can see Seven-of-Nine herself, Jeri Ryan, providing moral support in the background.
In Picard, Del Arco will be reprising the role of Hugh, a former member of the Borg that first appeared on Star Trek: The Next Generation. The actor teased that, like Seven-of-Nine, Hugh will have a new look in the new series. However, he couldn’t share any details about Hugh’s new look. Seven, who appears in the Picard trailer, has been freed from most of her Borg enhancements. It would only make sense that Hugh would be sporting less hardware as well. Del Arco even went the extra mile to protect fans from unnecessary speculation, stating in a later tweet that most Star Trek cast members have to go through the process before their final show make-up is approved.
"This does not confirm anything about Hugh’s make up pretty much everyone on StarTrek (aliens in particular) have these done before final design is complete and approved - sometimes it’s never used... but you’ll have to wait and see"
But, what fun are these types of behind-the-scenes videos without a little speculation? Notably, the casting material completely covered Del Arco’s left eye. Fans will remember that Hugh had a Borg implant completely surrounding his left eye. The fact that the casting material covered the actor’s left eye, but not his right, might indicate that Hugh will still be sporting some high-tech eyewear. Or maybe we are all wrong and Hugh is still sporting the same look he had before? In a StarTrek.com video Del Arco did spill that Hugh is living on a Borg cube when Picard finds him. Maybe he is still more Borg than anything else?
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2019/10/03 20:55:00
Subject: Star Trek: general discussion :Picard trailer p#16
No idea. It was supposed to be Oct/Nov this year initially but that was pushed back to 2020 months ago. I haven't seen an update on that but I don't follow it directly myself.
Well, after getting a warning from CBS this week, it looks like the Axanar fan film has started filming today and they're live streaming it. It seems like they're getting mostly background audio at the moment (18-20 people walking around a mic mumbling, clapping, screaming, talking, etc). If you're a backer, don't get too excited as this is only the first of multiple (four?) scheduled filming periods spread out across multiple locations in the US and there is plenty of rope for them to hang themselves with even if CBS doesn't follow up their warning with any legal action. The history of (mis)management on this once promising project is very deep unfortunately.
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2019/10/06 11:14:54
Subject: Re:Star Trek: general discussion :Picard trailer p#16
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2019/10/06 13:48:25
Subject: Re:Star Trek: general discussion :Picard trailer p#16
That video is unfortunately region locked for me. I don't know if it is the new trailer released yesterday at NYCC but, if it is, it should say at the end that the release is iirc Jan 23rd, 2020. More tabletop gaming news from NYCC as well with a preview of the second (delayed and split) upcoming half of the heroclix TNG set. The first half came out about two weeks ago.
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
Yeah I still don't know how to feel about this show. I can't tell if the trailers are crammed with action shots and dual-wielding phaser rifles because they're trailers and executives think those have to be action-packed to keep anyone's attention for more than five seconds, or if that's representative of the show and they've just entirely missed the point of why people liked TNG.
"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
-----
"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal
2019/10/06 15:58:19
Subject: Star Trek: general discussion :Picard trailer p#16
Yodhrin wrote: Yeah I still don't know how to feel about this show. I can't tell if the trailers are crammed with action shots and dual-wielding phaser rifles because they're trailers and executives think those have to be action-packed to keep anyone's attention for more than five seconds, or if that's representative of the show and they've just entirely missed the point of why people liked TNG.
First Contact was action packed and I really enjoyed it - but I am more of a DS9 fan so i did not enjoy Insurrection.
Hoping Seven is still quite happy to speak her mind
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"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
