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This is definitely genuine and definitely not Japan only. The space marine heroes range was designed to broaden the appeal of warhammer in Japan by mimicking the popular gachapon (blind box) toys that are sold here. Even those kits are going global.
This box will not move the needle one millimetre over here. Japan has no more interest in a racing game than anywhere else.
I’m really looking forward to seeing the kits. The three buggies shown on the cover each look quite different.
Hopefully we will get the details on Saturday.

 DarkStarSabre wrote:

 EnTyme wrote:
Okay, so now that CSM have received attention, Sisters are getting their update next year, and Orks have been teased (*edit* assuming this is real), who is left to whine on the board? I guess it's up to Eldar players at this point.

When did CSM receive attention? Did I miss a wonderful release where we literally got something more than a single character from a Triumvirate box?

well it started with the return of Magnus, the release of traitor legions (sure it was less then 6 months before 8th but..) the introduction of death guard as an army complete with Morty, and then the release of 1ks sons as offically their own army. weather you like what they got it or not Chaos within the last year and a half has seen a fair bit of attention.

edit: ohh and they also, finally, blew up Cadia.

edit: more recently there is the renegade knight index, which is IMHO an improvement in GW's responsiveness to chaos, previously they'd have ignored renegade knights when the new IK codex hit

Tzeentch release w/ Tzaangors and Brimstones and new options, Magnus, new Thousand Sons models after years and years. A whole Deathguard release. Mortarian. So many Deathguard. Nurgle release w/ a new Great Unclean One after years and years. Seriously - Chaos has gotten a huge amount of love.

Interesting that they're putting this focus on this world called Vigilus. I guess Vigilus is going to be the new 'Cadia'. Very important to the Imperium, lots of different factions fighting over it.

So far we got GSC and Space Wolves with mention of Orks (racing in the badlands) and then Black Legion.

I'm going to bet that after this, we start hearing more whispers of Black Legion coming up. Hopefully with that new rumored Abaddon model...

But seriously GW, not everything needs a mini-game box set...

Their profits are through the roof. I think they've realized that the consumers love these box sets. They've done a ton of them over the past couple years and they've all been very successful. It's smart and passes on some saving to the consumer - and gets us hooked with models for armies that we might end up collecting further.

 DarkStarSabre wrote:

 EnTyme wrote:
Okay, so now that CSM have received attention, Sisters are getting their update next year, and Orks have been teased (*edit* assuming this is real), who is left to whine on the board? I guess it's up to Eldar players at this point.

When did CSM receive attention? Did I miss a wonderful release where we literally got something more than a single character from a Triumvirate box?

in our eyes Death Guard is CSM

Let's hope it's not just the existing Wartrak and Warbuggy kits redone in coloured plastic, and the box art isn't just artistic licence...

People saying DG is CSM, is like saying don't complain about Space Wolves because Blood Angels came out last year. It's a different army.

It's like lumping Harelquins in with Eldar or DE.

Khalan wrote:
People saying DG is CSM, is like saying don't complain about Space Wolves because Blood Angels came out last year. It's a different army.

It's like lumping Harelquins in with Eldar or DE.

sure but no one said CSMs, they said "chaos" right now chaos has gotten a fair bit of attention, the line is diversifying etc. this isn't a bad thing. Now I agree, it'll be good to see the genetic CSMs get some love but..

GoatboyBeta wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
HOLLYYY <REMOVED>!!!! (sorry mods - amend as req'd) I hope this isn't a China only release as the article(?) kinda implies else I'm going to be spending a lot of money getting those models over to my house in the UK!!

Chinese writing on the box cover. So maybe its just region specific packaging?

Japanese actually. It has hiragana alongside kanji which is specific feature to japanese to make the chinese letters work with japanese language specific

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
Can someone confirm this actually? My wife is British Born Chinese, she can speak but can't read or write Cantonese that well. She said some of the symbols looked Chinese and some looked Japanese?

Yes. Thing is Japanese uses three systems of writing due to lots of historic reasons. At the core ARE chinese letters. These are what your wife notices. These represent concepts and can be used as words themselves but how to pronounce it is something you need to learn basically word by word(There are some rules but also tons of exceptions). However japanese language and chinese language work completely differently grammatically so just by them would be super hard to write. For example chinese making sentence PAST sentence you add one kanji which is always read same way. In japanese you modify the word and reading of that differs based on word which would be lot harder to indicate with chinese style so japanese have put in use yet another writing system called hiragana that was invented latere than kanji were introduced, first by women to have easier writing system they could use, which is ~52 letters(compared to thousands of chinese letters) each representing specific sound(so more similar to what we use) rather than concept(like sun, tree, eating etc). There's also 3rd writing system called katakana which mirrors hiragana which is used for loan words.

41千年紀における <- last 4 letters are the revealers. Those are hiragana ONLY used in Japanese. Not in China, not in Korea(which also uses chinese letters though has come up with their own system as well) or well in any other country that uses chinese letters. If there's hiragana it's 100% sure to be japanese writing. 3 letters before that are chinese letter and these your wife could recognize.

I've lived in Japan for 13 years and couldn't have explained writing the system that well. Anyway to get back on track, landmine on twitter (a popular online retailer) is saying he knows about 4 new ork kits, two of which are vehicles.
He also said that he didn't know about the box set so add salt as needed.

Definitely Japanese. Tagline on the front is 第４１千年紀における爆走集団の戦闘 which means "High Speed Combat in the 41st Millenium". (Surprise)
Means I'll have to get a squad of ork bikers done up as bosozoku with giant perms.

 Elbows wrote:
I'd bet money it's simply a "quick start" box for the new Ork vehicles, much like Gang War Comorragh and Knight Renegade, etc. I bet you'll get a scant 20-30 page book with some turn dials, etc...but I sincerely doubt it's a relaunch of Gorkamorka.

Good news for Ork players I guess.

I think those of us wanting a proper modernised GorkaMorka are just going to have to make it ourselves once the inevitable arrival of vehicle rules hits N17. Still, nothing preventing us from using the models in the meantime to play the classic game, and some of these random "here's some models at a modest discount and oh yeah we chucked a game in there" game boxes have actually played pretty well for what they are. I do hope the models don't go too far in the "hot rod" design direction - that's their inspiration obviously, but I prefer my Orks looking ramshackle and scrappy rather than "we put some glyphs on a slightly OTT version of a car from the 50's".

They need to relent with all the boxed sets, boxed games and stuff. I feel like they are giving players too many options. So it's like everyone is playing different games and it makes finding games harder. I don't know what this will end up being but I ain't buying it, I just can't, can't keep up with all the crazy new products. If I was an ork player with an existing force though i'd be pretty stoked.

 Thargrim wrote:
They need to relent with all the boxed sets, boxed games and stuff. I feel like they are giving players too many options. So it's like everyone is playing different games and it makes finding games harder. I don't know what this will end up being but I ain't buying it, I just can't, can't keep up with all the crazy new products. If I was an ork player with an existing force though i'd be pretty stoked.

Locally I don’t see anyone playing the box set games like Renegade, Spires of Commarqgh, the HH board games. They may be good and fun but most people pick them up for the models.

May be different in other areas though.

If this boxed set has new buggies and wartraks, I’ll take 8, thank you!

Khalan wrote:
People saying DG is CSM, is like saying don't complain about Space Wolves because Blood Angels came out last year. It's a different army.

It's like lumping Harelquins in with Eldar or DE.

Dude, as Ork players we also see SW as just Space Marines.


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Okay, I will laugh out of pure madness if it turns out this is exclusive but it has every model we could ever want. And GW is all like "Orks sell more in Asia so we are just stopping all EU production... muahahahaaa"

 Thargrim wrote:
They need to relent with all the boxed sets, boxed games and stuff. I feel like they are giving players too many options. So it's like everyone is playing different games and it makes finding games harder. I don't know what this will end up being but I ain't buying it, I just can't, can't keep up with all the crazy new products. If I was an ork player with an existing force though i'd be pretty stoked.

It's okay because almost no one actually plays these boxed games more than once. They might as well be wrapping paper for the models inside.

 lolman1c wrote:

Khalan wrote:
People saying DG is CSM, is like saying don't complain about Space Wolves because Blood Angels came out last year. It's a different army.

It's like lumping Harelquins in with Eldar or DE.

Dude, as Ork players we also see SW as just Space Marines.


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Okay, I will laugh out of pure madness if it turns out this is exclusive but it has every model we could ever want. And GW is all like "Orks sell more in Asia so we are just stopping all EU production... muahahahaaa"

We know, most people see BAs DAs and SWs and just space marines, problem is it's not really far, for the reasons Khalan described.

I wonder if this is a reworking of Dark Future that is changed to be Ork themed? As in, it will use the rules from Dark Future, but new 40K Ork models (or even old ones?)

 lolman1c wrote:

Khalan wrote:
People saying DG is CSM, is like saying don't complain about Space Wolves because Blood Angels came out last year. It's a different army.

It's like lumping Harelquins in with Eldar or DE.

Dude, as Ork players we also see SW as just Space Marines.


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Okay, I will laugh out of pure madness if it turns out this is exclusive but it has every model we could ever want. And GW is all like "Orks sell more in Asia so we are just stopping all EU production... muahahahaaa"

Unlikely to be exclusive. Too expensive to do for just Japan. Especially as miniature games don't appear to be that popular in Japan that I can see which isn't surprising. Japan is super hard market to get into with the expensive prices, japanese little free time and very small homes(I know I would sell out my GW models if I ever moved to Japan. Too space consuming).

Space marine heroes thing worked because they are small and were sold in a style japanese are nuts about. Big box that needs big board to play at? Much less popular.

I'm still scared. I guess we will see.

The front wheels of the first buggy seems to match the rumour engine picture from last year!

I like how the Gretchin are all driving. they would make the best drivers.

Red ones go Fasta'!!!!

Hope that these are the new buggy kits we've been hearing about. The old ones are good, but alongside a Stompa, they are a bite size morsel.

 Grot 6 wrote:
Red ones go Fasta'!!!!

Hope that these are the new buggy kits we've been hearing about. The old ones are good, but alongside a Stompa, they are a bite size morsel.

Huh? Stompa bite size morsel? The one that's IIRC even bit taller than knight? Stompa isn't orks warhound equilavent but more comparable to knight so don't see how you could say they are even remotely too small

I will be all over this like a mekboy on a newly wrecked land raider. 40k racing is my one true love in life.

tneva82 wrote:

 Grot 6 wrote:
Red ones go Fasta'!!!!

Hope that these are the new buggy kits we've been hearing about. The old ones are good, but alongside a Stompa, they are a bite size morsel.

Huh? Stompa bite size morsel? The one that's IIRC even bit taller than knight? Stompa isn't orks warhound equilavent but more comparable to knight so don't see how you could say they are even remotely too small

They didn’t say the Stompa was a bite size morsel. They said the buggies are a bite size morsel next to the stompa.

Oh boy! I don't even really need any more buggies for my speed freaks but I'm all over this one! This might just turn out to be a good time to be an ork player

drbored wrote:
Interesting that they're putting this focus on this world called Vigilus. I guess Vigilus is going to be the new 'Cadia'. Very important to the Imperium, lots of different factions fighting over it.

So far we got GSC and Space Wolves with mention of Orks (racing in the badlands) and then Black Legion.

The Kill Team box has Vigilus as the planet on which the Genestealer Cult and the Adeptud Mechanicus are fighting, the Writhing Shadow Tyranids box and the Drop Fore Imperator Guard box for Kill Team also have Vigilus as the location on which they’re active, and the Drukhari codex mentions Vigilus as the target of Dark Eldar raids (http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Vigilus).

So that’s Genestealer Cult, Space Wolves, Orks, Tyranids, Adeptus Mechanicus, Tyranids, Astra Militarum, Drukhari and Chaos Space Marines already, all on Vigilus... Of the main factions (not counting subfactions of the Imperium or Chaos) that leaves just Necrons, T’au and Craftworld Eldar, I think?