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I'm sure there's still some of it up for grabs here and there.

some news

Hur hur, good ol' Killboy, can't fly a damn but e's the best lad wez got.

Loving this

SQUISHY DAKKA

AKA: Bitey Guns, Crawly Shootas

Some of da boyz from Octarius got their mekz to loot some of da dakka from da tirry-nids. Works pretty well if you keep 'em fed. You can get sum from Ulg Lotsarms and his boyz, just smack 'im in da gob if he keeps talkin' about “Gork and Mork but wiv four arms for hittin' people” and “the patriork” and uvver rubbish.

RATING: 10/10

Oh and Killboy is da Bizness

Yup, the new Your Guide to Dakka article is fething great, especially The Squishy Dakka and Weird Dakka sections

 ikeulhu wrote:
Yup, the new Your Guide to Dakka article is fething great, especially The Squishy Dakka and Weird Dakka sections

What are the chances that squishy and/or weird dakka will actually make it into the game? Interesting reference to ork/genestealer hybrids too.

Also, yet more references to runtherds being the orkish historians in this article and the previous one. That seems to be something significant.

Third biggest release of this edition, only primaris and death guard really got more, this is great!

Looking forward to the new buggies!

 Perfect Organism wrote:

 ikeulhu wrote:
Yup, the new Your Guide to Dakka article is fething great, especially The Squishy Dakka and Weird Dakka sections

What are the chances that squishy and/or weird dakka will actually make it into the game? Interesting reference to ork/genestealer hybrids too.

Also, yet more references to runtherds being the orkish historians in this article and the previous one. That seems to be something significant.

Thought passed my mind as well. That or just plot hooks maybe for future

tneva82 wrote:

 Perfect Organism wrote:

 ikeulhu wrote:
Yup, the new Your Guide to Dakka article is fething great, especially The Squishy Dakka and Weird Dakka sections

What are the chances that squishy and/or weird dakka will actually make it into the game? Interesting reference to ork/genestealer hybrids too.

Also, yet more references to runtherds being the orkish historians in this article and the previous one. That seems to be something significant.

Thought passed my mind as well. That or just plot hooks maybe for future

Hopefully something to give them a use outside of giving grots morale. Dunno what they could possibly do, but outside of gimmicky grot-army lists, no real reason to take runtherds when grots are only taken for cheap troop slots.

Uhm 30 strong grot units are quite useful and 2-3 are frequently on my lists.

not sure if this is news or if its just an idea of things to come.
this patient ork player commented on todays articles and GW actualy gave a non sarcastic reply.
-(posted on the facebook post for the new ork regimental bosspole)
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Jarom Swenson admittedly i posted on the other articles this comment before you released this article. i would consider this dakka post as an orktober article. but ill post my comment here because its good ideas for your team to see.

"Dear GW
a killteam article that mentions orks is not an article that has anything to do with either the codex or speedfreeks. many ork players who have patiently waited for the new models and the new codex are not going to consider this an "orktober" article. instead this is an article that covers some game system completely unrelated. since your team has so much trouble trying to think of articles for "orktober" then here are some ideas.

-x6 articles, each about an ork clan. its overview,its trait, a unique stratagem, a clan warlord trait

-article showing off the new squig buggy. it's about time you showed that off.

-x6 articles about each of the new ork vehicles, a little lore, but more importantly how they play on the table top

-2-3 articles about how you've changed how the new codex works with our existing models. maybe have the frontline gaming guys write some cool testimonials. doing articles about rules will give us the chance to get games in this month by testing out our own previews. This will help us get more excited

-speedfreeks rule preview

-lore article about what's happening in the octarius war and what ghaz has been up to

-lore article that describes how the orks are dealing with fighting demons on armageddon

-maybe a lore article that covers some of the ork stuff on vigilus

-x2 days,each dedicated to announcing the preorders of speedfreaks and codex

-x2 days, each for the actual release of speedfreeks and the codex

i have listed 23 article ideas, there are 21 days left in the month. feel free to borrow from me. we are fine if you have non ork related articles and non codex/speedfreaks related releases coming out at the same time as our articles. we just want you to keep your promise of...
"To celebrate the return of everyone’s favourite green-skinned warmongering, barbaric xenos this Orktober, we’ve got an entire month’s worth of exciting content for you to help get you in the mood for Waaagh!"
"Orktober is going to be awesome, so don’t forget to check back each day to see what news and articles we have for you.""
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Warhammer 40,000 Hey Jarom! So, you make some good statements here! You clearly spent a long time thinking this through, and we thank you for the well-thought out feedback. Let us address these points:

- x6 articles, each about an ork clan: You are describing a rules preview; something we have done for every single Codex throughout the release of 8th edition, and we will be doing it for Orks. These will likely come in the week before the Codex release, as they have for every other Codex since Summer 2017.

- 2-3 articles about how you've changed how the new codex works with our existing models: Again, this sounds like a codex preview! Again, this is something we have historically done the week before the Codex release. So, not yet.

- speedfreeks rule preview: Well, this again sounds like a preview of the rules in the Codex... and again... that's something that we'll be doing in the run-up to the release of the Codex!

-lore article about what's happening in the octarius war and what ghaz has been up to: Pretty cool idea, this one!

-lore article that describes how the orks are dealing with fighting demons on armageddon: Very cool idea!

-maybe a lore article that covers some of the ork stuff on vigilus: Fear not, that's coming.

-x2 days,each dedicated to announcing the preorders of speedfreaks and codex: We will ONE HUNDRED PERCENT announce the pre-orders! Just... when they are about to be up for pre-order... like we do with everything else

-x2 days, each for the actual release of speedfreeks and the codex: Sounds great! In fact, we have done that for every other Codex on the day of their release... so it's pretty certain we'll do it for Orks too...

We REALLY REALLY are releasing Ork stuff this month and we REALLY will be talking about it nearer the time, just as we have done with every single other Codex! There is 21 days of #Orktober left, and we have a few very cool things up our sleeves (even tho Orks don't wear them).

It's also worth noting you have commented this on a post all about Orks, posted on Da Regimentul Bosspole.. it's a really good one too... so give it a readin'!
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Jarom Swenson Warhammer 40,000 thank you for the reply. im glad i helped give ideas. for some clarification. all the ideas i had for "speedfreeks" is about the speedfreeks specific box game (as far as i know it is unrelated to the codex rules wise).
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Jonathan Bartlett Thanks for your continued patience with us ork players, I know it seems like it's a lot of whinging lately but i think a lot of people were expecting to spend money right out of the gate, lots of speed freeks stuff, but I think there has been lot of wishlisting too as time has given the opportunity for imaginations to run rampant!

I know some of us was hoping for some return of classics, such as Ard Boyz and Skarboyz, looted wagons. possibly a less ghetto booty ork boy kit as well as some plastic generic HQ. Since no plastic sculpt of a basic bigMek with KFF, or generic warboss/mega-armoured warboss (grukk is grukk, ghazzy is ghazzy).

The hype has reached a critical mass, ork players in my experience have always been die hards. Especially since orks have been a tight spot for many years, and many are nostalgic for the insane flavour of books like freebooters or the brilliance of the 3rd Ed codex, where randomness played only a small element into the orks fun factor, where in recent years randomness was supposed to mean fun and it fell flat. Shokk attack gun and bubblechukka are notable inclusion, ramshackle is kinda corner case at best..

I am hoping beyond hope that this new codex is a return to form and allows all ork players all of all kinds to be viable, from trukks filled with Boyz, dreddmobs, to toys galore, to the already currently viable greentide.

We want to be rewarded for our patience, and many of us are happy to wait just a bit longer but it's hard to meet expectations when we want it all now. Forgive us and continue to be patient with us. Deliver us into the Altar of the WAAAGH and we will reward you with riches beyond measure (i.e you sell it and we will buy it)

I have bought a stompas, a morkanaught (or possibly Gorkanaught waiting for the codex), 2 boxes of flashgitz, a battleswagon, and trukk, all in anticipation. This is the vibrancy of my resolve...sell us the gubbins!
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Warhammer 40,000 Jonathan Bartlett Not a problem! Look, we here in the Community Team are super-enthused hobbyists too; we're just as eager and chompin' at da bit to start talking about all the great Ork stuff we have planned for ya!

We are WELL aware that the hype-wagon has reached critical speed - we also know the Ork Kommunity out there has been speculatin' and creating theories and ideas.. and that's great. We all do that - even us here at Games Workshop.

This new Codex is just superb, it really is. It gives players things they have never had before, both in terms of models and rules. We'll be going into this SO much in the coming weeks that you're gonna get as sick of it; as sick as a snot who has gone through a Shokk-Attack gun.

Of course we forgive total passion - in fact, there is nothing to forgive. We zoggin' love Orks here and we know you do too. We just need you guys to wait a liiiittle bit longer and we will reveal all soon, we promise.

Don't worry, Boss Bartlett; we got dis.
- Kommunity Team
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legitimately sincere sounding replies by GW, what do you guys think?
it gives us things we've never had before? i wonder if that a reference to the new models or strait up some new ork rules that are actually unlike anything we've had before?

I'm glad they even bothered replying to you at all. At least the guide to dakka gave me a good laugh, dez got real good ladz on dat dere website.

geargutz wrote:
*snip*

 davou wrote:

Man, the mob of Burnaz to deliver that last one must have been huge

We are WELL aware that the hype-wagon has reached critical speed - we also know the Ork Kommunity out there has been speculatin' and creating theories and ideas..

'Yeah, we missed the boat and overhyped it.'
'Don't turn on us when it's still just a couple buggies and a codex, please'

 Perfect Organism wrote:

 ikeulhu wrote:
Yup, the new Your Guide to Dakka article is fething great, especially The Squishy Dakka and Weird Dakka sections

What are the chances that squishy and/or weird dakka will actually make it into the game? Interesting reference to ork/genestealer hybrids too.

Also, yet more references to runtherds being the orkish historians in this article and the previous one. That seems to be something significant.

they've always been the oral historians though

 Vitali Advenil wrote:
Hopefully something to give them a use outside of giving grots morale. Dunno what they could possibly do, but outside of gimmicky grot-army lists, no real reason to take runtherds when grots are only taken for cheap troop slots.

Last time I crunched the numbers, runtherds actually struck me as fairly good value combat units. Virtual immunity to shooting is great, a little under 7 points per wound isn't bad, and 3 S6 AP-1 attacks is enough to make them dangerous in close combat. They are inherently immune to morale by virtue of being single-model units and they are an efficient way of packing lots of points into a transport. If you have a few elite slots left after nobz and painboyz, then I'd say they are worth considering even without any runts to herd.

Voss wrote:

We are WELL aware that the hype-wagon has reached critical speed - we also know the Ork Kommunity out there has been speculatin' and creating theories and ideas..

'Yeah, we missed the boat and overhyped it.'
'Don't turn on us when it's still just a couple buggies and a codex, please'

Genestealer Cult release:

1 clampack character
1 larger character kit
3 plastic kits
1 upgrade sprue

Primaris Marine Release

2 clampack characters
5 plastic kits

Admech release:

7 plastic kits
1 clampack character

Deathwatch Release:
3 plastic kits
2 clampack characters
1 upgrade sprue

Current ork release:

6 plastic kits
1 large character kit
1 new terrain sprue

Even if we go with the most reliable projections (the kits we have seen in albeit blurry images) this is the biggest xenos release since the relaunch of the Necrons and pretty on-par with a mini-faction launch.

Voss wrote:

We are WELL aware that the hype-wagon has reached critical speed - we also know the Ork Kommunity out there has been speculatin' and creating theories and ideas..

'Yeah, we missed the boat and overhyped it.'
'Don't turn on us when it's still just a couple buggies and a codex, please'

100%

That entire post is what we call a "holding" post. It gives no new information, tries to placate people who are unhappy and ultimately offers very little.

They have yet to acknowledge that they probably shouldn't have said they were going to do a whole month of articles about Orks when there was never an intention.

the_scotsman wrote:
Current ork release:

6 plastic kits
1 large character kit
1 new terrain sprue

Even if we go with the most reliable projections (the kits we have seen in albeit blurry images) this is the biggest xenos release since the relaunch of the Necrons and pretty on-par with a mini-faction launch.

5 kits, assuming all the buggies are separate. Blasta, Dragster, Snazzwagon, Scrapjet and Squigbuggy.

Not sure I'd put much value on the terrain sprue, but that's just me.

Ah but if it isn't 20 kits minimum with broken op codex it proves gw hates orks!

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

Voss wrote:

We are WELL aware that the hype-wagon has reached critical speed - we also know the Ork Kommunity out there has been speculatin' and creating theories and ideas..

'Yeah, we missed the boat and overhyped it.'
'Don't turn on us when it's still just a couple buggies and a codex, please'

100%

That entire post is what we call a "holding" post. It gives no new information, tries to placate people who are unhappy and ultimately offers very little.

They have yet to acknowledge that they probably shouldn't have said they were going to do a whole month of articles about Orks when there was never an intention.

There probably was, and still is, an intention to do an entire month worth of content and releases. It was just probably never intended to begin at the start of October. But then they went and said Orktober, which suggests the month will be October in its entiriety, not a bit of October and a chunk of November, which is what it will probably be.

Honestly, if they hadn't said Orktober, I doubt there would be an issue right now. The whole thing is basically starting two-to-three weeks after they have suggested it will.

 Haighus wrote:
There probably was, and still is, an intention to do an entire month worth of content and releases. It was just probably never intended to begin at the start of October. But then they went and said Orktober, which suggests the month will be October in its entiriety, not a bit of October and a chunk of November, which is what it will probably be.

Honestly, if they hadn't said Orktober, I doubt there would be an issue right now. The whole thing is basically starting two-to-three weeks after they have suggested it will.

For sure man.

This is quite literally a problem of their own making. It's not just them coining Orktober though. They have made other comments that indicated we'd be getting a lot more than what we've had so far.

geargutz wrote:
...as sick as a snot who has gone through a Shokk-Attack gun.

OK, I gotta say this is pretty funny.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

Voss wrote:

We are WELL aware that the hype-wagon has reached critical speed - we also know the Ork Kommunity out there has been speculatin' and creating theories and ideas..

'Yeah, we missed the boat and overhyped it.'
'Don't turn on us when it's still just a couple buggies and a codex, please'

100%

That entire post is what we call a "holding" post. It gives no new information, tries to placate people who are unhappy and ultimately offers very little.

They have yet to acknowledge that they probably shouldn't have said they were going to do a whole month of articles about Orks when there was never an intention.

the_scotsman wrote:
Current ork release:

6 plastic kits
1 large character kit
1 new terrain sprue

Even if we go with the most reliable projections (the kits we have seen in albeit blurry images) this is the biggest xenos release since the relaunch of the Necrons and pretty on-par with a mini-faction launch.

5 kits, assuming all the buggies are separate. Blasta, Dragster, Snazzwagon, Scrapjet and Squigbuggy.

Not sure I'd put much value on the terrain sprue, but that's just me.

Mek Shop. Terrain sprue from Speed Freeks is the rubble/walls/whatever. We've seen that in the background of several images.

I don't put any value on the Kastelan Robots because they kind of look like ass to me. Doesn't stop them from being a sprue they invested into.

the_scotsman wrote:
Mek Shop. Terrain sprue from Speed Freeks is the rubble/walls/whatever. We've seen that in the background of several images.

I don't put any value on the Kastelan Robots because they kind of look like ass to me. Doesn't stop them from being a sprue they invested into.

I'm not sure we've seen it in the background but rumour indeed has it that we're going to get one yea.

They invested into it as much as they did the Ferratonic Generators or the Galvanic Servohaulers etc Not my cup of tea when I can make better for pennies.

Maybe we just jumped the gun and assumed that since Orktober sounds like October that it happens to fall in that month.

Maybe, in the language of GW, Orktober translates to sometime in February after Genestealers and Sisters of Battle get their codexes.

The weird dakka saying "blood blood" and the face of the ork holding it made me laugh.

Or maybe October is when it starts. There\s still 2 weeks of october releases to be announced. So first lots of hype, then release starts.

Lots of crying here even after worst ones on ignore. Wonder why people keep doing that seeing all it accomplishes is hurting themselves. Only ones that possibly CAN benefit from all that crying are doctors.

Going to lock this for a bit as we've already asked folks not to debate what "Orktober" means to them in this thread, and we're back at it.

I'll unlock later today for folks to continue discussing the ork releases and news/rumors of upcoming ones... but Not "Orktober", as we've beaten that to death by now.

I'll update the title when I unlock this to make that distinction a bit clearer, too.

Okay, I'm re-opening the thread. Let's stay on topic, please!

What we know:

Speed Freaks - 2 new buggies, 6 bikes, new terrain pieces
- Buggies might be ETB, but leaked photos don't look like it. Bases! Bikes will be on ovals. Rules for a racing game, and codex rules too?
New Vehicles - Warboss on Trike, and some combination of new buggy kits
- No consensus on how many kits and how many vehicles can be built from each one. The Mek in me wants one kit with lots of parts!
Codex, and probably the usual cards and dice
- We know the army wide rule, dakka dakka dakka. No more being completely unable to hit stuff!
- We've seen boyz on 32's. Implies a new box, but maybe only with the new bases.

What we've heard:

Clan rules
Clan Warlord Traits
Army Warlord Traits
A couple of stratagems

Reasonably reliable sources. The clan rules and traits all seem believable. The generics, to me, less so, and the stratagems are pure speculation. If its all true, then the codex might be looking pretty good.

What's missing:

Plastic characters, generic and named
Plastic units that are still resin
A start collecting box that is a playable force

Overall, so far, yay? Three weeks and we should know everything. I wish RDR2 was out now to distract me.