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PiñaColada wrote:
https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/3369

Check out the new datasheets in better resolution. And also warbikers!

Edit: Don't have my index with me, but they seem pretty similar/the same right?

Edit 2: The difference seems to be that the normal non-nob bikers "may" take a slugga and/or choppa whereas they just had that in the index. I wonder if that means our boyz are still 6ppm and it's the weapons that now cost 1 point each?

Highly doubtful, but the dataslate at least let's you take a Choppa in addition to the BC/pk on the nob, so you get an extra S5 attack.

Shokk Rifle hits on a 3+. That might make the shokjump a bit more attractive.

They better not use that same damn cover art again.

I was annoyed when I bought the 8th Ed dark angels codex and it had the 6th Ed codex art.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1U1Adu3Y9AI

Let's Play Speed Freeks by GMG

 lord_blackfang wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 Ouze wrote:
At $150(?) USD, Speed Freeks is going to be a hard pass for me. I already have 9 bikes and don't want more, and while I do love the buggies, I'm damn sure not paying $75 each for them, functionally.

I think it's impossible that individual sprues won't be up pretty soon though, the way that Kill Team Commanders are. If the Buggies are $25ish I will definitely get a few.

25? More like 40-50

Leman Russ price band would be my guess.

I wasn't predicting a release price, I'm saying what my price band is

If they are indeed 40-50 apiece for a single buggy upon release, that would again be a hard pass. Despite the fact I really do like these models quite a bit, ultimately there are just too many really good looking proxies available on the market; and I already built up and painted my own scratchbuilds anyway. So, high interest but kind of low demand if that makes sense.

I won't lie, it annoys me that warbiker nobs can't take kombis.

At least we're not looking at at staggered release after the Speed freeks box. This is a quote from todays article: "[...]the Deffkilla Wartrike, Boomdakka Snazzwagon, Megatrakk Scrapjet and Rukkatrukk Squigbuggy – all of which are available to pre-order from next weekend (along with Codex: Orks, no less)!"
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/10/20/speed-freeks-roars-into-action/

 TedNugent wrote:
They better not use that same damn cover art again.

I was annoyed when I bought the 8th Ed dark angels codex and it had the 6th Ed codex art.

They will. None of the codexes have had new cover art, except Space Marines or codexes that didn’t exist before (Death Guard).

PiñaColada wrote:
At least we're not looking at at staggered release after the Speed freeks box. This is a quote from todays article: "[...]the Deffkilla Wartrike, Boomdakka Snazzwagon, Megatrakk Scrapjet and Rukkatrukk Squigbuggy – all of which are available to pre-order from next weekend (along with Codex: Orks, no less)!"
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/10/20/speed-freeks-roars-into-action/

I'm happy to hear it's mostly coming out at the same time.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 TedNugent wrote:
They better not use that same damn cover art again.

I was annoyed when I bought the 8th Ed dark angels codex and it had the 6th Ed codex art.

They will. None of the codexes have had new cover art, except Space Marines or codexes that didn’t exist before (Death Guard).

I was about to say, prepare to be disappointed.
All just the same as their prior.
Marines only because they’re ‘sort of’ a new faction in that Primaris are now the thing.

 Dakka Flakka Flame wrote:

PiñaColada wrote:
At least we're not looking at at staggered release after the Speed freeks box. This is a quote from todays article: "[...]the Deffkilla Wartrike, Boomdakka Snazzwagon, Megatrakk Scrapjet and Rukkatrukk Squigbuggy – all of which are available to pre-order from next weekend (along with Codex: Orks, no less)!"
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/10/20/speed-freeks-roars-into-action/

I'm happy to hear it's mostly coming out at the same time.

Me too, I can put a kidney up on ebay for a 7 day sale...

I am wondering if there is more. A two week window, really only one of which is a 40k release, seems light. The third week might be the terrain piece, or something they have managed to keep under wraps... Anyway, I have my first Ork game booked for the 6th at my FLGS. Anyone know how long it takes Battlescribe to update after a codex comes out? I've never hand done an 8th edition list!

no new kommandoz :( ... lootaz/burnaz/nobz are all gone for repack as well

 aracersss wrote:
no new kommandoz :( ... lootaz/burnaz/nobz are all gone for repack as well

Nope, they are "sold out online" while the Kommandos are purely and simply not there anymore ...

Yep, kommandoz seem to be gone.

 Jidmah wrote:
Yep, kommandoz seem to be gone.

They have finally become so sneaky that they've managed to sneak off the GW store?! Incredible!

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
Yep, kommandoz seem to be gone.

They have finally become so sneaky that they've managed to sneak off the GW store?! Incredible!

Maybe we are getting new kommandos. If so it would be a shame if tankbusters wasn't in as a duel kit.

Is someone going to bring up Kommandos being gone from the webstore on every single page of this thread?

Hey, did anyone notice that the Kommandos are gone from the webstore?

Say what you will, the price is fairly reasonable for what you get in the box. If you get Bikes from GW each box of 3 costs $40. So two boxes add up to $80. If each of those new buggies costs $35 (reasonable for new items) then they add up to $70. So at that point the stuff is worth $150 not accounting for the terrain, the game board, rule-book or gaming accessories.

I get that it's frustrating to have to buy all of it, but chances are good the buggies will be available separately in the future.

 Hive City Dweller wrote:
Say what you will, the price is fairly reasonable for what you get in the box. If you get Bikes from GW each box of 3 costs $40. So two boxes add up to $80. If each of those new buggies costs $35 (reasonable for new items) then they add up to $70. So at that point the stuff is worth $150 not accounting for the terrain, the game board, rule-book or gaming accessories.

I get that it's frustrating to have to buy all of it, but chances are good the buggies will be available separately in the future.

No one is claiming the price isn’t accurate.. the issue is unlike nearly every box set there is no discount... so if I wasn’t really in the need for new warbikers or really into convincing people to play one off games. This is a hard pass.. I’ll just pick up the buggies I want when they go in preorder and the terrain when it goes on preorder and If i need more scatter terrain.

I have 10 warbikers I don’t really need more. I would have picked up the boxsex if it was 125-135....as that would mean at least one box of war bikes are free and a good discount

gungo wrote:

No one is claiming the price isn’t accurate.. the issue is unlike nearly every box set there is no discount... so if I wasn’t really in the need for new warbikers or really into convincing people to play one off games. This is a hard pass.. I’ll just pick up the buggies I want when they go in preorder and the terrain when it goes on preorder and If i need more scatter terrain.

I have 10 warbikers I don’t really need more. I would have picked up the boxsex if it was 125-135....as that would mean at least one box of war bikes are free and a good discount

You're right, but even from a purely modelling standpoint the "no discount" assumes the orky terrain is worth $0. It's a fairly large sprue of terrain, and comparing it to even the smallest sector mechanicus terrain it could be anywhere between $25-$35 on its own if sold separate.

I think the biggest winners from this box will be people looking for loads of cheap bikes on ebay.

gungo wrote:
No one is claiming the price isn’t accurate.. the issue is unlike nearly every box set there is no discount...

No, the really worrying part is that there almost certainly is a discount, which would mean that GW prices the new buggies a lot higher than what we're used to.

gungo wrote:

 Hive City Dweller wrote:
Say what you will, the price is fairly reasonable for what you get in the box. If you get Bikes from GW each box of 3 costs $40. So two boxes add up to $80. If each of those new buggies costs $35 (reasonable for new items) then they add up to $70. So at that point the stuff is worth $150 not accounting for the terrain, the game board, rule-book or gaming accessories.

I get that it's frustrating to have to buy all of it, but chances are good the buggies will be available separately in the future.

No one is claiming the price isn’t accurate.. the issue is unlike nearly every box set there is no discount... so if I wasn’t really in the need for new warbikers or really into convincing people to play one off games. This is a hard pass.. I’ll just pick up the buggies I want when they go in preorder and the terrain when it goes on preorder and If i need more scatter terrain.

I have 10 warbikers I don’t really need more. I would have picked up the boxsex if it was 125-135....as that would mean at least one box of war bikes are free and a good discount

The discount, even from a purely modelling standpoint comes from the free terrain. Even the smallest sector mechanicus costs $25-$35. If the rumored Mek Shop is released, I'm guessing some of this terrain will accompany it at a lofty price.

I do get the disappointment over price hikes though; last year when the DG icon bearer mini cost $25 for a single plague marine I thought it was absolute greed. This is nowhere near as crass.

Totally depends on what you are pricing before you discount for the box. Price the buggys the same as Mek Gunz and the terrain at $35 you get (Total Speculation):

Ork Biker Mob $41.25 x 2 = $82.50
Buggy $46 x 2 = $92
Ork Terrain $35 = $35
Total = $209.50

Selling at $150 gives you a 28.5% discount.

 alextroy wrote:

Ork Terrain $35 = $35

At 35USD I would expect 2 sets of Ork barricade, not 1.

 Hive City Dweller wrote:

gungo wrote:

No one is claiming the price isn’t accurate.. the issue is unlike nearly every box set there is no discount... so if I wasn’t really in the need for new warbikers or really into convincing people to play one off games. This is a hard pass.. I’ll just pick up the buggies I want when they go in preorder and the terrain when it goes on preorder and If i need more scatter terrain.

I have 10 warbikers I don’t really need more. I would have picked up the boxsex if it was 125-135....as that would mean at least one box of war bikes are free and a good discount

You're right, but even from a purely modelling standpoint the "no discount" assumes the orky terrain is worth $0. It's a fairly large sprue of terrain, and comparing it to even the smallest sector mechanicus terrain it could be anywhere between $25-$35 on its own if sold separate.

I think the biggest winners from this box will be people looking for loads of cheap bikes on ebay.

Don't know how many will be up there considering the huge initial cost of a box set in USA which at today's rate retail for retail is 22% higher then England pays for the same dang set. I think they missed the price point considerably for what they are offering in the set. I think had it been around the 130 base range and you got the max 15% allowed off for ebay retailers and then hopefully god willing a 15% ebay coupon code special, I would have got two sets. But given at $150 and the low model count even with cool terrain, I don't see the value of this set that makes it that price. Compared to the Kill Team starter box set which sold way out and hasn't seen a restock since, I doubt these will fly off the shelves like them. I could be wrong but doubtful judging from the over all opinions. games workshop screwed the pooch on this one.

 Hive City Dweller wrote:

gungo wrote:

No one is claiming the price isn’t accurate.. the issue is unlike nearly every box set there is no discount... so if I wasn’t really in the need for new warbikers or really into convincing people to play one off games. This is a hard pass.. I’ll just pick up the buggies I want when they go in preorder and the terrain when it goes on preorder and If i need more scatter terrain.

I have 10 warbikers I don’t really need more. I would have picked up the boxsex if it was 125-135....as that would mean at least one box of war bikes are free and a good discount

You're right, but even from a purely modelling standpoint the "no discount" assumes the orky terrain is worth $0. It's a fairly large sprue of terrain, and comparing it to even the smallest sector mechanicus terrain it could be anywhere between $25-$35 on its own if sold separate.

I think the biggest winners from this box will be people looking for loads of cheap bikes on ebay.

Don't know how many will be up there considering the huge initial cost of a box set in USA which at today's rate retail for retail is 22% higher then England pays for the same dang set. I think they missed the price point considerably for what they are offering in the set. I think had it been around the 130 base range and you got the max 15% allowed off for ebay retailers and then hopefully god willing a 15% ebay coupon code special, I would have got two sets. But given at $150 and the low model count even with cool terrain, I don't see the value of this set that makes it that price. Compared to the Kill Team starter box set which sold way out and hasn't seen a restock since, I doubt these will fly off the shelves like them. I could be wrong but doubtful judging from the over all opinions. games workshop screwed the pooch on this one.


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 r_squared wrote:
It simply doesn't feel good value to me at £90, or £72 plus shipping (£77) from your favourite online discounter. I'm not a massive fan of the scenery, and the game maybe fun,but it'll be short lived in my local game club.

I'm holding on until the codex drops before I decide to put any cash towards this. I like the buggies, but at that price, warbikes and buggies need to be solid, viable units.
Here's hoping they're releasing these buggies later on, or some sort of speedfreeks getting started kit.

Imagine having to pay 22% higher for the same product like us on the other side of the pond have to

(Not sure why it double posted but I am sorry)

 Hive City Dweller wrote:
Say what you will, the price is fairly reasonable for what you get in the box. If you get Bikes from GW each box of 3 costs $40. So two boxes add up to $80. If each of those new buggies costs $35 (reasonable for new items) then they add up to $70. So at that point the stuff is worth $150 not accounting for the terrain, the game board, rule-book or gaming accessories.

I get that it's frustrating to have to buy all of it, but chances are good the buggies will be available separately in the future.

$40 for 3 bikes is excessive.

The old battleforce (of which I own two) included 3 bikes, a truck and 20 boys for $100. Bundles include discounts to account for the fact that you are buying in bulk and may be getting things in the bundle you didn't necessarily want to buy.

You can afford for the margins to be lower on a bulk sale due to the higher price point.

The new boxes could be twice as expensive and I would still buy two of each. GW got me by the balls. I am a total junkie

I picked up the game for under $130 online. I intend to use it for the game, and may add in some of the other vehicles when they are available. I'm happy with the purchase.