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PiñaColada wrote: Did they state how many points they played? Just quick maths on that admech list puts it around 1300 with base equipment, assuming you mean a tech priest dominus when you said magos and not an enginseer, then it could be 1250
Edit: Huh, I thought you said 2x2 striders and 2 robots. Without that info it's difficult to guess
That's what I said at first, but then I saw he more robots and striders than that.
Eyeballing it it looks like 3 robots and 3 striders and 3 dragoons? Dunno what they have though. The destroyers have grav cannons something blasters I think.
Which one is the small dude with the axe? Because that's what the model looks like. The ad mech player said it was cheap and its just to hold the objective.
I don't think they actually called it anything. His opponent just called it an Orphelin, which just means orphan, referencing the fact that the character was off in the corner, away from anything else.
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What I have
~4100
~1660
Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
Spees Freeks box is now set for preorder BUT I just noticed that I won't be able to paint the Boosta-blasta with flames on the hood: it doesn't have one, it's all engine. Crap. Must've misremembered/mixed it up with the car I wanted to base the paintjob on.
I won some kila kanz and stuff for 15€ on ebay earlier, how are those currently? The old joke about dreadnaughts on skates comes to mind when thinking about kanz in a speed waagh, but, hey, maybe they WILL have skates
PS: also losing on some Kommados, not cool.
Looking for a Skaven Doomwheel banner to repair my Nurgle knights.
Automatically Appended Next Post: I was at a huge apocalypse style game of pure Orks at this weekends warhammer world and we used dakka dakka. It's interesting... honestly didn't do anything much for me (one time my 1 rockett turned into 2 rocketts... so that was kinda cool but not game changing). But some people had some pretty good success. One guy rolled like 10 6s with his lootas I think.
They still aren't allowed to give information about orks. Its just a short form battle report list. Not a report, just the list
Orks
20 gretchin 28 shoota boyz Waaagh Banner Painboy Big Mek in Meganobz armor with KFF Weirdboy 10 gretchin 5 mek gunz. He said something about them here, but I couldn't catch it, he mumbled it a bit Mega Dakka jet 30 slugga (?) boyz Gorkanaut, which can apparently deepstrike now.
The rest is basically about subscribing to them to see it in action.
there were also some bikers on the field... i guess he was playing 4 warbikes and the new trike
my estimates (including conservative wargear) is about 1727 points (index)
Spoiler:
Big Mek in Mega Armour, Kustom Force field + Kustom mega-blasta, Power Klaw Wyrdboy Warboss on Warbike, Attack squig + Power klaw
28 Boyz, 24 x Choppa & Slugga, 1 x Shoota, 2 x Big shoota + Boss Nob, Shoota, Power klaw 30 Boyz, 28 x Choppa & Slugga, 1 x Shoota + Boss Nob, Shoota, Power klaw 20 Gretchin 10 Gretchin
Nob with Waaagh! Banner Painboy, Grot orderly + Power Klaw
4 Warbikers + , Slugga, Power klaw
Gorkanaut 5 Mek Gunz, 5 x Kustom mega-kannon
Dakkajet, 6 supa shootas
maybe an admech player can give us an estimate for their forces?
either they are playing a 1750 - 1850 points game, which would be shocking :( or 1500ish which would be kinda nice or he's playing nob bikes on 1750-1850 which would be ok -.-
This message was edited 6 times. Last update was at 2018/10/22 14:45:22
Binabik15 wrote: Spees Freeks box is now set for preorder BUT I just noticed that I won't be able to paint the Boosta-blasta with flames on the hood: it doesn't have one, it's all engine. Crap. Must've misremembered/mixed it up with the car I wanted to base the paintjob on.
I won some kila kanz and stuff for 15€ on ebay earlier, how are those currently? The old joke about dreadnaughts on skates comes to mind when thinking about kanz in a speed waagh, but, hey, maybe they WILL have skates
PS: also losing on some Kommados, not cool.
Kanz are probably one of the better units in the index, which doesn't mean much though. Assuming they get better and/or cheaper they are decent units for sitting on a forward objective and shooting missiles from there.
7 Ork facts people always get wrong: Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other. A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot. Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests. Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books. Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor. Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers. Orks do not have the power of believe.
Automatically Appended Next Post: I was at a huge apocalypse style game of pure Orks at this weekends warhammer world and we used dakka dakka. It's interesting... honestly didn't do anything much for me (one time my 1 rockett turned into 2 rocketts... so that was kinda cool but not game changing). But some people had some pretty good success. One guy rolled like 10 6s with his lootas I think.
They still aren't allowed to give information about orks.
Its just a short form battle report list. Not a report, just the list
Orks
20 gretchin
28 shoota boyz
Waaagh Banner
Painboy
Big Mek in Meganobz armor with KFF Weirdboy
10 gretchin
5 mek gunz. He said something about them here, but I couldn't catch it, he mumbled it a bit
Mega Dakka jet
30 slugga (?) boyz
Gorkanaut, which can apparently deepstrike now.
The rest is basically about subscribing to them to see it in action.
there were also some bikers on the field... i guess he was playing 4 warbikes and the new trike
my estimates (including conservative wargear) is about 1727 points (index)
Spoiler:
Big Mek in Mega Armour, Kustom Force field
+ Kustom mega-blasta, Power Klaw
Wyrdboy
Warboss on Warbike, Attack squig
+ Power klaw
28 Boyz, 24 x Choppa & Slugga, 1 x Shoota, 2 x Big shoota
+ Boss Nob, Shoota, Power klaw
30 Boyz, 28 x Choppa & Slugga, 1 x Shoota
+ Boss Nob, Shoota, Power klaw
20 Gretchin
10 Gretchin
Nob with Waaagh! Banner
Painboy, Grot orderly
+ Power Klaw
4 Warbikers
+ , Slugga, Power klaw
Gorkanaut
5 Mek Gunz, 5 x Kustom mega-kannon
Dakkajet, 6 supa shootas
maybe an admech player can give us an estimate for their forces?
either they are playing a 1750 - 1850 points game, which would be shocking :(
or 1500ish which would be kinda nice or he's playing nob bikes on 1750-1850 which would be ok -.-
Ah, so there are. He did not point those out, so either he forgot or there is something new about them, that they'll only reveal to their subscribers or something.
What I have
~4100
~1660
Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
Power Field. 2+ Invulnerable in 2nd Ed, but not in HTH.
Displacer Field. 3+ Invulnerable in 2nd Ed, all the time. But, it caused you scatter around the board.
Conversion Field. 4+ Invulnerable in 2nd Ed. When a save was passed, caused a blinding flash, which affected all within range.
Refractor Field. 5+ Invulnerable in 2nd Ed. But, you couldn’t Hide your model (a mechanic back then), because it had a distinct, visible halo.
There were others, but those were race specific and I can’t recall them properly, having played solely Dark Angels in that era.
IIRC in 1st edition, power fields made the bearer completely invincible, but you couldn't shoot out - you needed to switch it off for a turn. Later they introduced a synchroniser, which allowed you to fire without dropping the shield for a whole turn, but at a cost of allowing enemy fire through 1/6 of the time (i.e. becoming a 2+ unmodified save).
In Epic, power fields couldn't be raised once knocked down, unlike void shields. They were almost exclusively used by Orks, IIRC.
Automatically Appended Next Post: I was at a huge apocalypse style game of pure Orks at this weekends warhammer world and we used dakka dakka. It's interesting... honestly didn't do anything much for me (one time my 1 rockett turned into 2 rocketts... so that was kinda cool but not game changing). But some people had some pretty good success. One guy rolled like 10 6s with his lootas I think.
They still aren't allowed to give information about orks.
Its just a short form battle report list. Not a report, just the list
Orks
20 gretchin
28 shoota boyz
Waaagh Banner
Painboy
Big Mek in Meganobz armor with KFF Weirdboy
10 gretchin
5 mek gunz. He said something about them here, but I couldn't catch it, he mumbled it a bit
Mega Dakka jet
30 slugga (?) boyz
Gorkanaut, which can apparently deepstrike now.
The rest is basically about subscribing to them to see it in action.
there were also some bikers on the field... i guess he was playing 4 warbikes and the new trike
my estimates (including conservative wargear) is about 1727 points (index)
Spoiler:
Big Mek in Mega Armour, Kustom Force field
+ Kustom mega-blasta, Power Klaw
Wyrdboy
Warboss on Warbike, Attack squig
+ Power klaw
28 Boyz, 24 x Choppa & Slugga, 1 x Shoota, 2 x Big shoota
+ Boss Nob, Shoota, Power klaw
30 Boyz, 28 x Choppa & Slugga, 1 x Shoota
+ Boss Nob, Shoota, Power klaw
20 Gretchin
10 Gretchin
Nob with Waaagh! Banner
Painboy, Grot orderly
+ Power Klaw
4 Warbikers
+ , Slugga, Power klaw
Gorkanaut
5 Mek Gunz, 5 x Kustom mega-kannon
Dakkajet, 6 supa shootas
maybe an admech player can give us an estimate for their forces?
either they are playing a 1750 - 1850 points game, which would be shocking :(
or 1500ish which would be kinda nice or he's playing nob bikes on 1750-1850 which would be ok -.-
From what i see on the adeptus mechanicus list it's 1500.
Edit: nope it's 1750 in fact.
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Ah, so there are. He did not point those out, so either he forgot or there is something new about them, that they'll only reveal to their subscribers or something.
It's not about subscription to his channel, everything is avaible for free on youtube/facebook.
The battle report was recorded yesterday only to be able to release it on the youtube channel the day of the pre-order of the Ork codex.
Until that day he is not allowed to tell anything explicit, but i think he is allowed to tease some things like his army composition, the fact that he is putting the gorkanaut in reserve, etc...
Ah, so there are. He did not point those out, so either he forgot or there is something new about them, that they'll only reveal to their subscribers or something.
It's not about subscription to his channel, everything is avaible for free on youtube/facebook.
The battle report was recorded yesterday only to be able to release it on the youtube channel the day of the pre-order of the Ork codex.
Until that day he is not allowed to tell anything explicit, but i think he is allowed to tease some things like his army composition, the fact that he is putting the gorkanaut in reserve, etc...
Yeah, that Gorkanaut thing was a surprise. I bet its going to be a stratagem, like what the necrons can do with their infantry.
Probably some sort of teleporta thing.
What I have
~4100
~1660
Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
Okay so I clicked on the video to try and suss out the admech costs. Since they are one of my two main armies I should be able to do this
Some angles might not help out in guessing and specific wargear might be tough
Cawl - 240
8 rangers - 56
3 dragoons - 204
2 Balistarii w/ lascannons - 190
3 Kastelans - 330
Enginseer - 47
I think it's 2x3 Kataphron breachers with torsion cannons - 324
I think there's 2 other blobs of 5 rangers - 70
There's also 9 infiltrators off the board - 198
This is a rough estimate but all that would add up to 1659 points. Maybe I screwed up somewhere and it's 1650 or it could easily be 1750 if I missed a unit
Edit: Through leaks we already "knew" that we could deepstrike the orkanauts. It's the tellyport stratagem which lets you deepstrike a unit with a PL of less than 20
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PiñaColada wrote: Okay so I clicked on the video to try and suss out the admech costs. Since they are one of my two main armies I should be able to do this
Some angles might not help out in guessing and specific wargear might be tough
Cawl - 240
8 rangers - 56
3 dragoons - 204
2 Balistarii w/ lascannons - 190
3 Kastelans - 330
Enginseer - 47
I think it's 2x3 Kataphron breachers with torsion cannons - 324
I think there's tow other blobs of 5 rangers - 70
There's also 9 infiltrators off the board - 198
This is a rough estimate but all that would add up to 1659 points. Maybe I screwed up somewhere and it's 1650 or it could easily be 1750 if I missed a unit
Edit: Through leaks we already "knew" that we could deepstrike the orkanauts. It's the tellyport stratagem which lets you deepstrike a unit with a PL of less than 20
I think he said 3 destroyers had gravitons and another 3 had blasters? Whatever Eclateurs are in English. I don't know Ad Mech options that well.
I think you're missing a strider too, and I think he said he had 2 units of 10 rangers.
What I have
~4100
~1660
Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
PiñaColada wrote: Okay so I clicked on the video to try and suss out the admech costs. Since they are one of my two main armies I should be able to do this
Some angles might not help out in guessing and specific wargear might be tough
Cawl - 240
8 rangers - 56
3 dragoons - 204
2 Balistarii w/ lascannons - 190
3 Kastelans - 330
Enginseer - 47
I think it's 2x3 Kataphron breachers with torsion cannons - 324
I think there's tow other blobs of 5 rangers - 70
There's also 9 infiltrators off the board - 198
This is a rough estimate but all that would add up to 1659 points. Maybe I screwed up somewhere and it's 1650 or it could easily be 1750 if I missed a unit
Edit: Through leaks we already "knew" that we could deepstrike the orkanauts. It's the tellyport stratagem which lets you deepstrike a unit with a PL of less than 20
You are right about 1750, he just answered my comment on the video.
They're a bit overcosted at the moment. They have big morale issues (low LD), so don't take too many in a group. If taken a mass of them, need to baby sit with warboss (prevents morale loss) and waaagh banner (so they hit on 4+ in CC). When rokkit buggies got cheaper, dropped the kans and started taking them instead.
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Okay cool, it's 1750. Because getting closer in guesstimation than that is difficult. Especially if they have incorrectly modeled their destroyers as breachers
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lolman1c wrote:What does this say for orks though? Like if we added ip the index, how much would the ork stuff cost compared to the 1,750pts there.
RedNoak wrote:
Spoiler:
Big Mek in Mega Armour, Kustom Force field
+ Kustom mega-blasta, Power Klaw
Wyrdboy
Warboss on Warbike, Attack squig
+ Power klaw
28 Boyz, 24 x Choppa & Slugga, 1 x Shoota, 2 x Big shoota
+ Boss Nob, Shoota, Power klaw
30 Boyz, 28 x Choppa & Slugga, 1 x Shoota
+ Boss Nob, Shoota, Power klaw
20 Gretchin
10 Gretchin
Nob with Waaagh! Banner
Painboy, Grot orderly
+ Power Klaw
4 Warbikers
+ , Slugga, Power klaw
Gorkanaut
5 Mek Gunz, 5 x Kustom mega-kannon
Dakkajet, 6 supa shootas
Seems like ork points went slightly up overall. Probably the effect is mostly from boyz going up and a few other things going slightly down. But don't expect us to be anything except bottom-tier from that.
lolman1c wrote:What does this say for orks though? Like if we added ip the index, how much would the ork stuff cost compared to the 1,750pts there.
RedNoak wrote:
Spoiler:
Big Mek in Mega Armour, Kustom Force field
+ Kustom mega-blasta, Power Klaw
Wyrdboy
Warboss on Warbike, Attack squig
+ Power klaw
28 Boyz, 24 x Choppa & Slugga, 1 x Shoota, 2 x Big shoota
+ Boss Nob, Shoota, Power klaw
30 Boyz, 28 x Choppa & Slugga, 1 x Shoota
+ Boss Nob, Shoota, Power klaw
20 Gretchin
10 Gretchin
Nob with Waaagh! Banner
Painboy, Grot orderly
+ Power Klaw
4 Warbikers
+ , Slugga, Power klaw
Gorkanaut
5 Mek Gunz, 5 x Kustom mega-kannon
Dakkajet, 6 supa shootas
Seems like ork points went slightly up overall. Probably the effect is mostly from boyz going up and a few other things going slightly down. But don't expect us to be anything except bottom-tier from that.
That can't actually be the entire list, not at 1750. Unless I'm mistaken that adds up to 1579 points. Basically 1640 if the boyz are up 1ppm. What everything else also goes up? There's gotta be some stuff missing in that list
Edit: I'm an idiot. Missed the dakkajet. Add 148 points to 1638 would equal 1786 points. If that ends up being 1730-ish then the savings are certainly small in that list at least
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Yeah, it's not good when a list goes up in price like that for a new book. That bodes ill for the gorkanaught, fighter, and bikes which all needed a point drop
Best Painted (2015 Adepticon 40k Champs)
They Shall Know Fear - Adepticon 40k TT Champion (2012 & 2013) & 40k TT Best Sport (2014), 40k TT Best Tactician (2015 & 2016)
Goffs look cool, but the old Ghaz model in the article must really put the nail in the coffin for the few people who still thought that he'd get a new model with the codex. The extra attacks on unmodified rolls are at least better since power klaws can still get them
Where did you get the £27.50 price from Discoking?
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/10/22 15:56:24
Not sure if that's the official price for buggies, as the pre-orders for the others aren't even up yet, and you can't even get the Dragster without buying the speedfreaks box.
What I have
~4100
~1660
Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
~4100
~1660
