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DiscoKing wrote:
Sorry if already been posted but new buggies are £27.50 each

Does it list a US price? That sounds pretty great (35$) but since "they came for the aussies and I did not speak because I was not an aussie, then they came for the kiwis..." etc, US seems to have its own tier of whackadoodle pricing where they convert to dollars and then slap and extra 25-50% on there for extra profit margins and funsies.

Goff preview, pretty much confirms existing leaks

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/10/22/oct-22-clan-fokus-goffsgw-homepage-post-2/

Ya guessing those buggies are just yanked from the speedfreaks box and upcharged. That dragster's gonna be hot item.

I gotta say, I'm completely fine with £27.50. I thought they were going to be £30 each. Not that there's a massive difference but I also deep down dreaded a stupid price, like £40 each

Sorry I don't get US prices only UK and EU. They are 35 Euro's

the_scotsman wrote:

DiscoKing wrote:
Sorry if already been posted but new buggies are £27.50 each

Does it list a US price? That sounds pretty great (35$) but since "they came for the aussies and I did not speak because I was not an aussie, then they came for the kiwis..." etc, US seems to have its own tier of whackadoodle pricing where they convert to dollars and then slap and extra 25-50% on there for extra profit margins and funsies.

Well, since Terminators are 28 pounds, but $50.00 US. I'd expect at LEAST $45.00 and probably $50.00 each.

 xttz wrote:
Goff preview, pretty much confirms existing leaks

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/10/22/oct-22-clan-fokus-goffsgw-homepage-post-2/

Skarboyz actually scare me. Like, a lot.

That’s a lot of S5 attacks.

 docdoom77 wrote:

the_scotsman wrote:

DiscoKing wrote:
Sorry if already been posted but new buggies are £27.50 each

Does it list a US price? That sounds pretty great (35$) but since "they came for the aussies and I did not speak because I was not an aussie, then they came for the kiwis..." etc, US seems to have its own tier of whackadoodle pricing where they convert to dollars and then slap and extra 25-50% on there for extra profit margins and funsies.

Well, since Terminators are 28 pounds, but $50.00 US. I'd expect at LEAST $45.00 and probably $50.00 each.

And I did not speak, because I weren't no dirty Canuck...

...And then they came for me

 greggles wrote:

Just curious why their deepstrike strategem is 2cp instead of the usual 1cp in most other codexes?

Guessing because you can teleport a gorkanaut?

It also has a very interesting wording... it explicitly states that the unit you use the stratagem on can "teleport down at the end of ANY of your movement phases" (and as such overruling the "no deepstrike in T1" rule). T1 Killsaw Meganob or Gorkanaut charge anyone?

Assuming this is intentional and not an oversight of course.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 xttz wrote:
Goff preview, pretty much confirms existing leaks

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/10/22/oct-22-clan-fokus-goffsgw-homepage-post-2/

Skarboyz actually scare me. Like, a lot.

That’s a lot of S5 attacks.

Yeah, skarboyz are a crazy good upgrade. There are just so many things that are either T4,5 or 8 and this affects all of them. For 1CP
Alas, I'm no Goff

Man, each time I think "Maybe this is the time I start an ork army, I could to a mechanized lists, because then it would be better point-money ratio" GW just loves to convice me otherwise

DiscoKing wrote:
Sorry if already been posted but new buggies are £27.50 each

That better than I expected, an worse than I hoped so probably about right

Pandabeer wrote:

 greggles wrote:

Just curious why their deepstrike strategem is 2cp instead of the usual 1cp in most other codexes?

Guessing because you can teleport a gorkanaut?

It also has a very interesting wording... it explicitly states that the unit you use the stratagem on can "teleport down at the end of ANY of your movement phases" (and as such overruling the "no deepstrike in T1" rule). T1 Killsaw Meganob or Gorkanaut charge anyone?

Assuming this is intentional and not an oversight of course.

Also, it says that if you use it on a transport, any units in the transport remain embarked.

Does that mean anything I stuff into, say, a 3PL trukk just comes along with?

Sounds like it...or a gorkanut with some choppy characters in it?

Tricktock wrote:
Just curious why their deepstrike strategem is 2cp instead of the usual 1cp in most other codexes? Maybe I'm missing something?

Most of those are limited to infantry or similar. This one teleports everything except stompas...furthermore it believe you can even transport a battle wagon with 10 meganobs as the powerlevel is the battle wagon NOT the embarked unit which isn’t considered on the board for all rules purposes.

Edit: the turn 1 as RaW sounds interesting but I fully expect that to get faq’d.

Well. At least orks have the best teleport technology/rules of the game. Thats fitting.

I'm sure that wasn't the intent and will be argued about (and probably FAQed) to 10PL in total

what? how did orks go up in points? That was the biggest complaint from Ork players is that we are overpriced! I hope we got the maths wrong on that because I'm scared right now.

This sentence intrigues me mightily..

"There are few units with the close-combat punch of a pack of killsaw-armed Meganobz, and they’d be a great choice for an army of Goffs even without the generous points reduction they’ve received."

Maybe they are worth it...

 Galas wrote:
Man, each time I think "Maybe this is the time I start an ork army, I could to a mechanized lists, because then it would be better point-money ratio" GW just loves to convice me otherwise

Is quite frustrating that the most Mad-max-ey army in 40k cannot go full Mad Max anymore.
We still did not see the whole codex. Better to remain optimistic up to the end.

 Galas wrote:
Well. At least orks have the best teleport technology/rules of the game. Thats fitting.

It genuinely is. Orks have the most advanced teck in 40k. And that's not a joke.

the_scotsman wrote:

Pandabeer wrote:

 greggles wrote:

Just curious why their deepstrike strategem is 2cp instead of the usual 1cp in most other codexes?

Guessing because you can teleport a gorkanaut?

It also has a very interesting wording... it explicitly states that the unit you use the stratagem on can "teleport down at the end of ANY of your movement phases" (and as such overruling the "no deepstrike in T1" rule). T1 Killsaw Meganob or Gorkanaut charge anyone?

Assuming this is intentional and not an oversight of course.

Also, it says that if you use it on a transport, any units in the transport remain embarked.

Does that mean anything I stuff into, say, a 3PL trukk just comes along with?

Hard to say... depends on whether rulewise an embarked unit "exists" inside the transport and if it does, if it retains it's associated PL while embarked. If not, you can teleport down a Battlewagon plus whatever you can cram inside no problem, if yes, you'll have to add the transports' PL to the PL of the embarked unit in order to determine whether you can teleport them in together.


Personally I'm leaning towards that a unit does "exist" while embarked, otherwise rules like open-topped and casualty rules for embarked units when a transport explodes cannot have any effect either. That still leaves the PL question however, but I'd say if a unit "exists" it also has an associated PL.

I would also like to point out this interesting bit of wording under the tellyporta strategem section of the GW community article.

"With their ’Ere We Go ability enabling you to re-roll either one or both of the dice when making your charge roll, you stand a great chance of getting this deadly unit stuck in as soon as they arrive."

Are they talking about ere we go allowing us to reroll either 1 or 2? or are they mentioningthe fact that we can either reroll both or use a CP reroll?

They asked that on facebook, GW said its either 1 or both dice now. Nice subtle buff.

 greggles wrote:
They asked that on facebook, GW said its either 1 or both dice now. Nice subtle buff.

That is huge! Yeez, the amount of CP we can save from that alone is a great buff

Edit: And obviously also helps immensly if many charges fail in a turn. Index rules we were obviously tied to only one reroll per phase by use of CP, this is a neat little thing

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
I'm sure that wasn't the intent and will be argued about (and probably FAQed) to 10PL in total

it literally states 20PL limit unit and allows transported models in transports(transported models are not on the board for any rules purposes unless specifically stated)... there is no ambiguity to the rule.

 greggles wrote:
They asked that on facebook, GW said its either 1 or both dice now. Nice subtle buff.

I'll take anything I can at this point. My nerves are through the roof. All these new models are worthless if our codex is crap!

Faq says any teleporting or equivalent is turn 2 earliest or own deployment zone T1.

Can't see Ork teleporting being any different.

Here is the image for sake of proof.

PiñaColada wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 xttz wrote:
Goff preview, pretty much confirms existing leaks

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/10/22/oct-22-clan-fokus-goffsgw-homepage-post-2/

Skarboyz actually scare me. Like, a lot.

That’s a lot of S5 attacks.

Yeah, skarboyz are a crazy good upgrade. There are just so many things that are either T4,5 or 8 and this affects all of them. For 1CP
Alas, I'm no Goff

"Scare" isn't what I feel. More like "Happy".

Also a big fan of the unmodified 6s to hit giving extra attacks. I was kind of hoping that a waaagh banner would buff boys to get extra attacks on 5+s, but it also means PKs always get a chance for extra attacks. And a points cut on meganobz is just gravy. Real talk, though........meganobz are somewhat fairly costed @42 points. They can't intrinsically deep strike (but can be jumped / tellyported), and shooting is garbage, but an extra wound and attack over terminators is probably worth it for 2 points.