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 Red Corsair wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Lol. Since when blood axes were supposed to be gunlines?

See when you post like this you lose that precious little credibility you had left. There is another part of the trait that is much more useful competitively. There is a reason everyone takes hive fleet Kraken.

When you make posts like this, you alienate people. Knock it off with the personal attacks.

Zachectomy wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Lol. Since when blood axes were supposed to be gunlines?

See when you post like this you lose that precious little credibility you had left. There is another part of the trait that is much more useful competitively. There is a reason everyone takes hive fleet Kraken.

When you make posts like this, you alienate people. Knock it off with the personal attacks.

He is a contributing member so he is allowed to attack people...

am i missing something, why bother with the 2cp version of the BA strat when you can just use the teleport strat for stuff upto 20p

- unless in the upcoming CA strats like this befre deployment are gnna be limited to 1 only... ?

Where are my pre orders GW

 Latro_ wrote:
am i missing something, why bother with the 2cp version of the BA strat when you can just use the teleport strat for stuff upto 20p

There is a generic warlord trait for +1S and +1A, and a goff-only warlord trait for just +1A. Think about that one for a minute.

Psychocouac wrote:
gorkanaut full equip 311

morkanaut without CFK 286
with CFK 306

I can live with those prices seen as it is my fav unit.

well the goth one is likely a nod to the fact gazzy will have it automatically therefore dodging giving him extra S.

so it makes a tiny bit of sense

 jhnbrg wrote:

Zachectomy wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Lol. Since when blood axes were supposed to be gunlines?

See when you post like this you lose that precious little credibility you had left. There is another part of the trait that is much more useful competitively. There is a reason everyone takes hive fleet Kraken.

When you make posts like this, you alienate people. Knock it off with the personal attacks.

He is a contributing member so he is allowed to attack people...

That's not actually how it works. Report him for personal attacks if you feel he's making them.

 Latro_ wrote:
well the goth one is likely a nod to the fact gazzy will have it automatically therefore dodging giving him extra S.

so it makes a tiny bit of sense

then maybe they should have made the goff one not redundant?

Hey there, has the Power levels leaked out already? I was having a couple of league games and was not able to follow this thread..

 Spreelock wrote:
Hey there, has the Power levels leaked out already? I was having a couple of league games and was not able to follow this thread..

They have been here and there from various sources. Some codex reviews are out, the Twitch stream by WarhammerTV yesterday showed us some and theres some in the White Dwarf preview on the Warhammer Community page as well. Unfortunately I dont think anyone has a condensed list anywhere

 Red Corsair wrote:

 Galas wrote:

 JimOnMars wrote:
Blood axes up.

Much weaker than expected. 18" limit to cover, and shot OR charge.

Could this point out to all -1 to hit traits being changed to 18" with CA?

Rumor is CA is also turning all -1 traits into cover traits as well.

Which could be an extrapolation from someone who saw kulturs early and made a guess. Totally possible though.

 Daedalus81 wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:

 Galas wrote:

 JimOnMars wrote:
Blood axes up.

Much weaker than expected. 18" limit to cover, and shot OR charge.

Could this point out to all -1 to hit traits being changed to 18" with CA?

Rumor is CA is also turning all -1 traits into cover traits as well.

Which could be an extrapolation from someone who saw kulturs early and made a guess. Totally possible though.

Quite possible. Im still thinking that a lot of the points increases on our "base" units (warboss, boyz, big mek etc) is in preparation for CA where a lot of armies will be experiencing this as well

 Billagio wrote:


Quite possible. Im still thinking that a lot of the points increases on our "base" units (warboss, boyz, big mek etc) is in preparation for CA where a lot of armies will be experiencing this as well

I just hope the deffdread/MANZ reductions signal changes for their analogues, too.

Really good Tabletop Tactics Battle Report for a propa Evil Suns army (though no new models in this one) against Astra Militarum.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2a4NylSnpw

Sorry if this was already posted, I went through and didn't see it though.

Has it been confirmed that the mega armor warboss is gone from codex ? I've read yes and no.

 Daedalus81 wrote:

 Billagio wrote:


Quite possible. Im still thinking that a lot of the points increases on our "base" units (warboss, boyz, big mek etc) is in preparation for CA where a lot of armies will be experiencing this as well

I just hope the deffdread/MANZ reductions signal changes for their analogues, too.

I would agree. Dreads and Terminators are too expensive right now, and easily some of the coolest units in the game.

Do we know what the point reductions for MANz are yet? I only saw the PL


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 Dakkafang Dreggrim wrote:
Has it been confirmed that the mega armor warboss is gone from codex ? I've read yes and no.

The review I saw said yes

Why would CA make errata and rules re-write, especially after they JUST did an FAQ Errata that covers these types of changes.

Chapter Approved hasn't changed rules, only added additional rules.

 Billagio wrote:

Quite possible. Im still thinking that a lot of the points increases on our "base" units (warboss, boyz, big mek etc) is in preparation for CA where a lot of armies will be experiencing this as well

That would certainly be interesting. It's one way to help keep battalion spam in check for horde armies

 Dakkafang Dreggrim wrote:
Has it been confirmed that the mega armor warboss is gone from codex ? I've read yes and no.

It is confirmed it is gone. You only have a mega armor mek now....


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 xttz wrote:

 Billagio wrote:

Quite possible. Im still thinking that a lot of the points increases on our "base" units (warboss, boyz, big mek etc) is in preparation for CA where a lot of armies will be experiencing this as well

That would certainly be interesting. It's one way to help keep battalion spam in check for horde armies

if this doesn't happen will you let us be upset then? Because you'll have many many years of us complaining until 9th edition.

 Nightlord1987 wrote:
Why would CA make errata and rules re-write, especially after they JUST did an FAQ Errata that covers these types of changes.

Chapter Approved hasn't changed rules, only added additional rules.

There's no law against it. The changes in CA can cover a broader arch of changes they've been looking at. Big Faqs deal with more immediate issues.

well, if there is no change to the kff on the megamek and the other units that can take it (curse you GW stream for getting my hopes up) then the consolation is that its the same kff as the index bikemek and normal mek have...so you can take the index meks without feeling too ham stringed.

unless im missing something that makes the new kff on the codex entries sooooo good?

 lolman1c wrote:

 Dakkafang Dreggrim wrote:
Has it been confirmed that the mega armor warboss is gone from codex ? I've read yes and no.

It is confirmed it is gone. You only have a mega armor mek now....

thought you could make a MA warboss from the plastic kit though?

unless at some point there is a new kit coming out and they want the rules to be released when it does and for people not to kit bash their own

So, it seems like post FAQ, Blood Axes are the only real Infiltrators left. Pretty cool.

What makes you think that? They need to follow the deep strike beta rules like anyone else.

 Latro_ wrote:
am i missing something, why bother with the 2cp version of the BA strat when you can just use the teleport strat for stuff upto 20p

- unless in the upcoming CA strats like this befre deployment are gnna be limited to 1 only... ?

Over 21 if there are any would be possibility. If not then they are effectively same which is bit weird but no loss.

 Jidmah wrote:
What makes you think that? They need to follow the deep strike beta rules like anyone else.

Nightlord1987 is referring to all the infiltration type stratagems that got errata changing them to extra movement instead of acting like a form of deep strike. Blood Axe Dead Sneaky strategem still functions like a form of deep strike while those others do not.

 Nightlord1987 wrote:
So, it seems like post FAQ, Blood Axes are the only real Infiltrators left. Pretty cool.

Ummm...Many other factions have deep strike strategems. Which work identically with this one. Not even the rumoured "up to 20PL worth of units" but instead "one unit up to 20PL". Or the BA that allows infantry for bigger. Either way deep strike works same way for everybody. Up to half the points, T2 earliest. So what's so cool?


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 ikeulhu wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
What makes you think that? They need to follow the deep strike beta rules like anyone else.

Nightlord1987 is referring to all the infiltration type stratagems that got errata changing them to extra movement instead of acting like a form of deep strike. Blood Axe Dead Sneaky strategem still functions like a form of deep strike while those others do not.

Well those didn't act like form of deep strike but were better. But "only real infiltrator" ignoring tons of factions that have EXACT SAME strategem as blood axes. Blood axes aren't "only true" in any sense. Nothing unique about their ability.

CA was likely made with the Ork codex, and vice versa.

It's possible the idea of how Orks cit into the game will change when CA comes out next month-end as there may be a design idea that carries theough from the Ork codex to other units points cost in CA, as the Ork codex was likely designed with chapter approved 2 rules/points in mind as they were likely finalized or close.

blaktoof wrote:
CA was likely made with the Ork codex, and vice versa.

It's possible the idea of how Orks cit into the game will change when CA comes out next month-end as there may be a design idea that carries theough from the Ork codex to other units points cost in CA, as the Ork codex was likely designed with chapter approved 2 rules/points in mind as they were likely finalized or close.

Then again maybe not. People have sworn "X happens for SURE in next CA/FAQ" only for no appearance.

Fans are always "Wait for X". "Wait for 8th ed. No wait for codex. No wait for FAQ. No wait for CA. No wait for next FAQ. Still nothing? Next FAQ is SURE to have the magic bullet!"