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Leviathan...

Senseï, exodites and other aspect warriors.

Inquisitor Obiwan Sherlock Clousseau!

Last Chancers
Gaunt's Ghosts
Shadow Captain Korvydae!

Sunny Side Up wrote:
Inquisitor Obiwan Sherlock Clousseau!

I mean, if you ignore some of those grenades and just give him like 2 decent options (kind of like a blightbringer) and digital weapons, that would be a pretty cool character. Especially with his 'shields' special rule. Could be something like:

Shields Up - Obiwan has a 3+ save from his power armour. On any turn, at the end of your movement phase, select from one of the following options. This upgrade lasts until your next movement phase.
Conversion Field - Against ranged weapon attacks, roll a D6 for each wound. On a 6, the attacking unit takes a mortal wound.
Stasis Field - Enemy models within 6" have -1 to their attacks characteristic to a minimum of 1.
Refractor Field - Obiwan gains a 4+ invulnerable save


(Obviously the actual dice rolls would need to be balanced, I just threw those ideas out off the top of my head, would be a cool character though).

Without question, Megarachnids. I know they are only mentioned in Horus Heresy, but I'm sure they could have been brought into 40K as well (small group of them survived somehow). I know they would probably be more-or-less the same as Tyranids, but I love the idea of them being a Xenos faction!

SG

I'd like to see rules for the Leviathan and Capitol Imperialis. Big-ass tanks please!

Leviathans. Yes, definitely. I have one I built up a while ago just for the giggles.

 ServiceGames wrote:
Without question, Megarachnids. I know they are only mentioned in Horus Heresy, but I'm sure they could have been brought into 40K as well (small group of them survived somehow). I know they would probably be more-or-less the same as Tyranids, but I love the idea of them being a Xenos faction!

SG

I dunno, Horus kiiinda killed em all.

BrianDavion wrote:

 ServiceGames wrote:
Without question, Megarachnids. I know they are only mentioned in Horus Heresy, but I'm sure they could have been brought into 40K as well (small group of them survived somehow). I know they would probably be more-or-less the same as Tyranids, but I love the idea of them being a Xenos faction!

SG

I dunno, Horus kiiinda killed em all.

Also they would be -exactly- the same as tyranids. They're basically a cross between genestealers and warriors. I did like them in the books (I'm currently on book 6) but I don't think they'd work as their own army, too samey.

HOWEVER you could easily make a Tyranid army with a bunch of conversions where all the models are big stabby spider creatures. Totally would work, and look cool.

Hmmmmmmm........ tempting....

How about any Iron Hands character? They all might as well be background characters at this point.

 Imateria wrote:
Vect's Castigators.

Vect. WE HAVE A MODEL GIVE BACK MY RULES DAMNIT

Harlequins have lots of mentions in their fluff about their members portraying the characters from Eldar mythology in a way similar to craftworlders practicing a Path. It would be nice if this would be reflected in the actual game by them having an option of getting more varied characters, or just as upgrades for regular Troupes. Now they are all just generic murderclowns.

Rogue Traders and their retinues would also be nice, either as their own faction or as possible allies to other Imperial factions.

pm713 wrote:
Slicing Orbs of Zandros. Or more Phoenix Lords.

https://goo.gl/images/UbHGXE
I'm not sure he works as a Phoenix Lord.

I'd like to see the Khrave. Also a lot of Tau auxiliaries.

SpaceElfCircus wrote:
Rogue Traders and their retinues would also be nice, either as their own faction or as possible allies to other Imperial factions.

Well I have good news for you.

 Bobthehero wrote:

SpaceElfCircus wrote:
Rogue Traders and their retinues would also be nice, either as their own faction or as possible allies to other Imperial factions.

Well I have good news for you.

I had to look this up. Two new codexes being released.

"The Rogue Trader boxed set features two mini-codexes for allying your Elucidian Starstriders and Gellerpox Infected with your main army."

Doesn't say -who- they would ally with though. I'm more interested in the Starstriders, as the Gellerpox just seem like more boring nurgle 'bloated corpses' models. But I'm willing to bet the Starstriders will be yet another in the long line of Imperium only upgrade options.

Gellerpox might be Chaos only, but the last thing Chaos wants or needs it more nurgle type models.

I'd actually be massively pleased (and surprised) if GW actually made an effort to spread the wealth a little, and allowed the rogue traders to be used with any army, even Xenos, as a mercenary type force. But I suspect it'll be more like Inquisition and Assassins - big buff units, imperium only.


Edit:
Nope, it's confirmed that they'll be an Imperium only army choice. So Imperium now have Inquisition, Assassins, and Rogue Traders, along with all their other options.

They may as well just drop all the other armies and merge 40k and Horus Heresy.

Niiru wrote:

 Bobthehero wrote:

SpaceElfCircus wrote:
Rogue Traders and their retinues would also be nice, either as their own faction or as possible allies to other Imperial factions.

Well I have good news for you.

I had to look this up. Two new codexes being released.

"The Rogue Trader boxed set features two mini-codexes for allying your Elucidian Starstriders and Gellerpox Infected with your main army."

Doesn't say -who- they would ally with though. I'm more interested in the Starstriders, as the Gellerpox just seem like more boring nurgle 'bloated corpses' models. But I'm willing to bet the Starstriders will be yet another in the long line of Imperium only upgrade options.

Gellerpox might be Chaos only, but the last thing Chaos wants or needs it more nurgle type models.

I'd actually be massively pleased (and surprised) if GW actually made an effort to spread the wealth a little, and allowed the rogue traders to be used with any army, even Xenos, as a mercenary type force. But I suspect it'll be more like Inquisition and Assassins - big buff units, imperium only.


Edit:
Nope, it's confirmed that they'll be an Imperium only army choice. So Imperium now have Inquisition, Assassins, and Rogue Traders, along with all their other options.

They may as well just drop all the other armies and merge 40k and Horus Heresy.

Well, they're rogue traders not rogue traitors

BrianDavion wrote:

Niiru wrote:

 Bobthehero wrote:

SpaceElfCircus wrote:
Rogue Traders and their retinues would also be nice, either as their own faction or as possible allies to other Imperial factions.

Well I have good news for you.

I had to look this up. Two new codexes being released.

"The Rogue Trader boxed set features two mini-codexes for allying your Elucidian Starstriders and Gellerpox Infected with your main army."

Doesn't say -who- they would ally with though. I'm more interested in the Starstriders, as the Gellerpox just seem like more boring nurgle 'bloated corpses' models. But I'm willing to bet the Starstriders will be yet another in the long line of Imperium only upgrade options.

Gellerpox might be Chaos only, but the last thing Chaos wants or needs it more nurgle type models.

I'd actually be massively pleased (and surprised) if GW actually made an effort to spread the wealth a little, and allowed the rogue traders to be used with any army, even Xenos, as a mercenary type force. But I suspect it'll be more like Inquisition and Assassins - big buff units, imperium only.


Edit:
Nope, it's confirmed that they'll be an Imperium only army choice. So Imperium now have Inquisition, Assassins, and Rogue Traders, along with all their other options.

They may as well just drop all the other armies and merge 40k and Horus Heresy.

Well, they're rogue traders not rogue traitors

Have to say I'm pretty rusty on the fluff, but I thought rogue traders were pretty much mercenary in nature. Rogueish.

If they're meant to be totally dedicated to the Imperium then that's fine, but then make the -other- box set something more Mercenary. Have the Rogue Traders attacked by a group of mercenary pirates that attack merchants.

Anything but more maggot bloat corpses.

Not on topic for this thread though.

Although back on topic, I would love a new supplement mercenary force which is actually non-aligned to any particular race. So that anyone could field a unit of them in their army. Don't know if the fluff actually has anything like this though. I'm sure it does.

BrianDavion wrote:

 ServiceGames wrote:
Without question, Megarachnids. I know they are only mentioned in Horus Heresy, but I'm sure they could have been brought into 40K as well (small group of them survived somehow). I know they would probably be more-or-less the same as Tyranids, but I love the idea of them being a Xenos faction!

SG

I dunno, Horus kiiinda killed em all.

No - the Imperial forces withdrew from the surface of Murder (One-Forty-Twenty) when the Interex arrived. I think they still live?

I was super disappointed after reading Legion and realising there was no way to make a company of the Geno Five-Two Chiliad.

All female psychic leaders and super-tough troopers led by Hetmen.


"The Geno wore a bulky-seeming uniform that nevertheless allowed them to operate with some grace of movement. A thick leather and armourchain bodyglove formed the main item of clothing, with waist-length coats and waist-length capes of yellow Terran silk commonly worn over the top. Their armour segments were lined with fur, and coats and capes were embroidered with company symbols and other military devices. Helmets were of the spiked variety, often trimmed with beads or fur. Standard issue gear was carried in a lightweight pack, with a long sword-bayonet slung at the waist. Uxors wore black, lightweight variants of the uniform, often covered over with gray cloaks or coats"

Sounds awesome.

Looted Vehicles, as in proper looted vehicles, as in "A looted Basalisk" with the earthshaker cannon but ork ballistic skill, perhaps D6-1 wounds lost to represent battle damage from the orks who looted it - it might have been abandoned, it might have been blown up. you're paying the same points as a normal one for the privilege of having another armies tank in yours.

Wazdakka, with his inter-Warp highway all set up for deepstriking bikers with some daemonic traits.

+1 on the Madboys, give them bonuses when they're with weirdboyz.

Honsou! Why no love for the IW?

Also the Arvus Lighter. There is no reason why a generic use aircraft can't be in 40k. It'd be like a flying Rhino for almost all factions except Eldar and Tyranids, and probably Tau. It doesn't even have to be as good as a Rhino. I just want to see them shot down while loaded with troops and then sing 'it's raining men'.

Squigs
Zogwort
Looted wagons
Basically all the really loony ork stuff

 Elbows wrote:
There were rumours via Necromunda sometime ago that we'd see a set of civilians in plastic. I doubt it'll happen, but I'd like it. Expanding on the civilians (which are a great idea even without proper rules), I'd like to see more auxiliary units with a game-purpose. I'd like to see more combat engineers, command vehicles, communications specialists, artillery spotters etc. I don't know if the current rules really would support them enough to be useful, but "narrative" brand of 40K models would be great. Just an offshoot in an off-coloured box that's called Warhammer: Storyline.

Give me some astropaths, pilots, governors, religious figures, non-combat servitors, diplomats, vehicle crewmen, Xenos traders and merchants, Rogue Traders etc. There are some 3rd party miniature lines which do some of this stuff, but not nearly enough.

That is exactly what I would love to see too!!!

I had this whole idea back in 5th for IG to make a prison colony /regiment Penal Legion. Mostly penal legion troops, some "Guards" as HWT, some Scout Sentinel Guard Towers. Angry Commisars and Ogryns as the warden and bodyguards.

I can see FW make some interesting stuff for that.

The Squats.

I'd really like to one day field my space dwarves with their own rules/stats again. I haven't really been able to do that for 6 editions now. :(
But since gaming in the past - 30k/HH - is a thing now, why do I still not have dedicated rules for my models?

 darkcloak wrote:
Also the Arvus Lighter.

The arvus lighter does have rules. Imperial Armour Index - AM - page 46.

It's astra militarium infantry only (no ogryns, and no sororitas anymore), toughness 6, 8 wounds, and is over 100pts unarmed.

zerosignal wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 ServiceGames wrote:
Without question, Megarachnids. I know they are only mentioned in Horus Heresy, but I'm sure they could have been brought into 40K as well (small group of them survived somehow). I know they would probably be more-or-less the same as Tyranids, but I love the idea of them being a Xenos faction!

SG

I dunno, Horus kiiinda killed em all.

No - the Imperial forces withdrew from the surface of Murder (One-Forty-Twenty) when the Interex arrived. I think they still live?

I thought the Megarchnids or something similar gets a mention in the Farsight Codex when Farsight was a Shas'vre or Shas'el.

Loyal Dark Angels?

Niiru wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

Niiru wrote:

 Bobthehero wrote:

SpaceElfCircus wrote:
Rogue Traders and their retinues would also be nice, either as their own faction or as possible allies to other Imperial factions.

Well I have good news for you.

I had to look this up. Two new codexes being released.

"The Rogue Trader boxed set features two mini-codexes for allying your Elucidian Starstriders and Gellerpox Infected with your main army."

Doesn't say -who- they would ally with though. I'm more interested in the Starstriders, as the Gellerpox just seem like more boring nurgle 'bloated corpses' models. But I'm willing to bet the Starstriders will be yet another in the long line of Imperium only upgrade options.

Gellerpox might be Chaos only, but the last thing Chaos wants or needs it more nurgle type models.

I'd actually be massively pleased (and surprised) if GW actually made an effort to spread the wealth a little, and allowed the rogue traders to be used with any army, even Xenos, as a mercenary type force. But I suspect it'll be more like Inquisition and Assassins - big buff units, imperium only.


Edit:
Nope, it's confirmed that they'll be an Imperium only army choice. So Imperium now have Inquisition, Assassins, and Rogue Traders, along with all their other options.

They may as well just drop all the other armies and merge 40k and Horus Heresy.

Well, they're rogue traders not rogue traitors

Have to say I'm pretty rusty on the fluff, but I thought rogue traders were pretty much mercenary in nature. Rogueish.

If they're meant to be totally dedicated to the Imperium then that's fine, but then make the -other- box set something more Mercenary. Have the Rogue Traders attacked by a group of mercenary pirates that attack merchants.

Anything but more maggot bloat corpses.

Not on topic for this thread though.

Although back on topic, I would love a new supplement mercenary force which is actually non-aligned to any particular race. So that anyone could field a unit of them in their army. Don't know if the fluff actually has anything like this though. I'm sure it does.

So a Rogue Trader is someone issued a Warrant of Trade by the Imperium. They are not rogue really, other than in the sense that the Warrant of Trade gives them exemption from a lot of Imperium law. They're explicitly allowed to go rogue... Which means it's not really going rogue.

Anyway, the reason these warrants are issued are many and varied, but basically it's when someone high up in the Imperium (traditionally the Emperor, but he's otherwise indisposed these days so a High Lord will do) decides that something often outside of Imperium space or at least direct control needs handling, and wants plausible deniability if it gets screwed up. Generally the terms of a Warrant will compel the Trader to perform a particular task in exchange for authority on a par to an Inquisitor. The advantage over an Inquisitor being that a Trader is free from the trappings of Imperium bureaucracy to just get on and get stuff done!

One such thing Rogue Traders are allowed to do is deal with Xenos. Officially that's heresy, but the Imperium is secretly much more pragmatic than it lets on. Perhaps the Trader is tasked with making first contact, making friends with Xenos to learn about their technology and military strength and such. So the Imperium know precisely how many billions of Guardsmen to throw at them when they get around to it.

So USUALLY Rogue Traders are loyal, but also sometimes work or at least parlay with Xenos. However given their often eccentric nature it's entirely possible for Trader to go genuinely Rogue against the Imperium too, though I'm not aware of specific examples.

It's complicated further thanks to Warrants of Trade being hereditary. I guess because sometimes the associated task might take more than a lifespan to complete. But it still seems like a terrible idea given how much power they have!