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I...didn't know all that!

Very cool, and thanks for pointing this out - much appreciated!
   
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Do y'all know of sources to get appropriately scaled base decor for AT? I'd like to add some scatter terrain like landraiders rhinos or Marines or other HH decor to my bases. Ideas?
   
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 doktor_g wrote:
Do y'all know of sources to get appropriately scaled base decor for AT? I'd like to add some scatter terrain like landraiders rhinos or Marines or other HH decor to my bases. Ideas?


It's the same scale as old Epic sans the titans. Infantry and vehicles can be found in eBay sales en mass or as folks clear their old garages. Alternatively, Thingiverse is full of printable files if you can access a 3D printer, search for epic30k.

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 doktor_g wrote:
Do y'all know of sources to get appropriately scaled base decor for AT? I'd like to add some scatter terrain like landraiders rhinos or Marines or other HH decor to my bases. Ideas?


Highly recommend vanguard miniatures https://vanguardminiatures.co.uk/product-category/defeat-in-detail-6mm/

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I’m going to put in a word for Gamers Grass, specifically their Tiny Tufts range of ultra-short static grass clumps and their Basing Bits - Temple set which has columns that are actually kinda small for 40k (the Imperium builds big, yo) but work out pretty well for megalithic heresies of Old Night crushed beneath the heel of Imperial Truth.

Here is part of the temple set with a Vanguard servitor, some Citadel Tiny Barrels™ and a spare Reaver power fist back:

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State of Jefferson

 Sherrypie wrote:
 doktor_g wrote:
Do y'all know of sources to get appropriately scaled base decor for AT? I'd like to add some scatter terrain like landraiders rhinos or Marines or other HH decor to my bases. Ideas?


It's the same scale as old Epic sans the titans. Infantry and vehicles can be found in eBay sales en mass or as folks clear their old garages. Alternatively, Thingiverse is full of printable files if you can access a 3D printer, search for epic30k.



I thought new AT was 10mm? Old epic was 6mm.
   
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The “official” scale of AT is 1/4 40k - that is, the models are 25% of the height of their 40k equivalent. So an Intercessor would be about 8 mm tall and a Rhino about 1 cm.
As such you won’t find a consistent unified scale because 40k doesn’t have one, not least because as a fantasy game there’s no real equivalent of a Warlord Titan to scale from.

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That is the first time I've heard that. I mean the IKs are the size of a marine and 4x 40k Marines are not the height of a 40k Knight. Got a source for that?

Edit: I've seen scale Warlords and imperator. The latter was like 5-6' tall

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You're misinformed, doktor_g. New AT models measure about 1:270 or between 6-7 mm for 180 cm humans (from models and stated canonical heights. Plenty of people, myself included, use Epic miniatures, Vanguard's 6 mm line etc. with their AT stuff and they look great (if one accounts for the fact that older Epic marines were 6 mm tall while later ones got bigger as they should) next to doors and other details.

The 1/4 bit comes from the main AT miniature designer. It is legit, he used that as a guide for their creation.

AT being somehow bigger like 8 or 10 mm is purely misunderstandings and hogwash, GW's early communication is at fault for muddling the waters when they started speaking of it as an 8 mm game when actually the designers said they chose the scale so that possible marines would look good. They were 8 mm, but are over 2 m tall monsters, so the scale human would still be closer to 6 mm. This being the internet, all hell broke loose.

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Basically it's actually a reasonably consistent scale now, which it never was before.

 
   
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winterdyne wrote:
Basically it's actually a reasonably consistent scale now, which it never was before.


Yes, but whether or not that hold true once they expand outwards into vehicles and infantry remains to be seen...

(And hopefully soon!)
   
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 Alpharius wrote:
winterdyne wrote:
Basically it's actually a reasonably consistent scale now, which it never was before.


Yes, but whether or not that hold true once they expand outwards into vehicles and infantry remains to be seen...

(And hopefully soon!)


They already did. Aeronautica Imperialis exists with 10+ plane types. Scale is the same as AT, they even got little grots in their Ork bommerz that are about the same size as Vanguard's 6 mm metal gretchin. It would be entirely out of whack for modern GW to not follow in the same scale when their designers have that optimized on their computers.

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http://titanownersclub.blogspot.com/2018/08/adeptus-titanicus-new-scale.html?m=1

These guys said 8mm. I guess old epic is ok. I was just holding out for new scaled up epic for basing.
   
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 doktor_g wrote:
http://titanownersclub.blogspot.com/2018/08/adeptus-titanicus-new-scale.html?m=1

These guys said 8mm. I guess old epic is ok. I was just holding out for new scaled up epic for basing.


And those guys were just as wrong then. That's what I mean when I say GW muddled the issue originally (launch was in Fall 2018, when the article you refer to was published), because their media guys heard the designers talk about 8 mm space marines and ran with that as if it was a thing. This bit on marines, mostly for future proofing, was elaborated on by Andy and others in Twitch streams through 2018-2019 when they were talking a lot about the game. Note how in the video in your link the designers constantly refer to it as "AT scale" without numbers at all.


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Also, baby Knights are the same size as a normal Space Marine the same way regular Knights are the same size as Armigers:

N.B. the Marine in their image is slightly closer to the camera which, combined with the angle of the shot, actually reduces the apparent difference in height.

That said, does anyone else want Armigers as an option for Knight Household armies? But just them, no option to add to a Titan Maniple?

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There's this classic, too:



If we also take into account the stuntiness of old marine models and AT knights being on 40 bases like terminators, we're comfortably between 1/4 - 1/5 ratio.

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I would not lose sleep over the exact scale as FW's reply to the issue was basically "we don't make our models with any certain scale in mind, and AT and AI is known as just Titanicus-scale".

Just use common sense and stick with model ranges that don't go over 10mm and you can't go wrong.

Casual gaming, mostly solo-coop these days.

 
   
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 Mr_Rose wrote:
Also, baby Knights are the same size as a normal Space Marine the same way regular Knights are the same size as Armigers:

N.B. the Marine in their image is slightly closer to the camera which, combined with the angle of the shot, actually reduces the apparent difference in height.

That said, does anyone else want Armigers as an option for Knight Household armies? But just them, no option to add to a Titan Maniple?

I'm down w that, Arnigers on 32mm woukd make sense for scale. Would be cool to have them be the fastest knight unit but also limited to Lances'.
   
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 Sherrypie wrote:
There's this classic, too:



If we also take into account the stuntiness of old marine models and AT knights being on 40 bases like terminators, we're comfortably between 1/4 - 1/5 ratio.


I stand corrected! Thanks everyone.

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Racerguy180 wrote:
 Mr_Rose wrote:
Also, baby Knights are the same size as a normal Space Marine the same way regular Knights are the same size as Armigers:

N.B. the Marine in their image is slightly closer to the camera which, combined with the angle of the shot, actually reduces the apparent difference in height.

That said, does anyone else want Armigers as an option for Knight Household armies? But just them, no option to add to a Titan Maniple?

I'm down w that, Arnigers on 32mm woukd make sense for scale. Would be cool to have them be the fastest knight unit but also limited to Lances'.


There's a really nice armiger model on thingiverse.

Really really nice actually https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4349311


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That's a real nice looking table, always a joy to see pools and little details like your loading area.

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 Sherrypie wrote:
That's a real nice looking table, always a joy to see pools and little details like your loading area.


Thanks guy I'm really stoked on those acid/phosphex pools.


Wrote some fluff for the first game:

Spoiler:
++ proximity warning ++
++ proximity warning ++

-strategium buzzing with activity-

-loud booming voice-

“Flares are up!”

-hundreds of cogitator screens fill the room but about half are blank or showing static.-

“Turn it off, at least kill the audio feed.”

“sir!?”

“If the terminals burned out replace it or move to a new one. Don’t salute, just move.”

-Close up on auspex screen with increasing number of red circles-

“That.. that can’t be right!?”

-taps screen repeatedly-

“my auspex is going crazy!”

“How’d they get past the orbitals!?”

“Orbitals aren’t responding, all channels are dead. Nothing on navy satcom either.”

-Comms officer makes eye contact, waits for his turn to speak-

“I count a dozen landers on screen, those bigger shapes have to be. The small ones look like escort fighters.”

“Routing air wings for intercept..”

“cancel that order!”

“Sir?..”

“We have to buy time the legio to deploy. I want all air wings pulled back over the city. Defend the hangers for the legio’s muster.”

“The orbitals are gone.”

“Look at weather, the atmospherics..”

-points at remaining satmap feed-

“That storm front forming over the western dunes, we’ve seen nothing that size in years… their landers have already broken the sky. Big ones.”

“Those dozen blobs on your screen, that’s not the vanguard, they’re just stragglers.”

“Infantry spotted in the southern marshes!”

“Pull all op’s back in and have the colonel move to reinforce the hab blocks. I want our lines set at the city limits.”

“The Colonel’s 2nd in command is asking to clarify the fallback order, they don’t have the full picture, what do I tell him?”

“They’ve barely opened up from orbit, they only smashed the guns they had to. They want the star port in one piece. Ask the colonel’s 2nd if he wants a roof over his boys head when we lose the skies to the warmaster.”

“Roger that sir, I’ll ask the colonel if he wants his cover hard or soft.”

“Legio's status?”

“3 engines left to bring online.”

“roger, are the banners deployed?”

“All knight banners assembled sir.”

“Rout their comms into the princeps senioris directly and delicately remind the princeps that there are still loyal imperial citizens alive and well in this city who are counting on the him to wake up tomorrow and not see the banners of Horus Lupercal flying over their city.”

-he allowed himself the half-thought of amasec on ice and caught himself before being snapped back by the bellowing of a comms operator two rows down-

“1 engine left to bring online.”

“Good, the legio will walk soon.”


“How are the air wings doing? The ammo hoppers on the perimeter AA batteries have barely moved.”

“They’re mostly ignoring our fighters. Once our air cover pulled back over the city, a couple of enemy wings took the bait but the rest backed off after their planes took hits. They’re burning fuel flying in circles.”

“Right, keep me posted if that changes.”

-a puzzled look-

“They don’t want the sky, they’re not throwing half of what they could down on our heads from orbit and Infantry already planet side and moving. Orbitals are out and our eyes are just garbage.”

“Route primay cogitator to the tactical feed. Clean it up and give me the listening posts we have left.”

“Coming on line, data in-loud imminent.”

“Heat map of only the seismic data, last 30 minutes, wide sweep, I want everything from the slag pits to the gorge.”

“On the main now sir, cleaning it up. It’s a bit rough”

-eyes fixate on one part of the screen-

“You look like a grox pissed in your breakfast sir, best I could do to clean it up..”

“It’s not the signal.. that’s just not good at all. Focus in on that quadrant there.”

“That big blob, that’s coffin ship.”

“Are you sure?”

“Look at the scale, that gridline is the whole southern Kasperus ridge. Too big to be an auspex ghost.”

“That’s not the vanguard above us, those are just the stragglers. Their main force is already here.”

-Two senior comms officers look at each other, silently jockeying, stern eye contact later, one passes a print out to the other and disappears to a lower platform leaving only one comms officer.-

“The legio is deploying now sir! Last engine out the gate.”

“Message from the princeps senioris actual.”

“What says the fearless princeps? Does this war prove convenient to his schedule?”

“He wants to convey he doesn’t intend to die on or for such an ugly planet and would like the rest of the close air support re-routed into legios command bunker, they want to direct fire missions themselves.”

“Done. Make that happen, cut us out of the net if you have to. He can have all remaining ground forces too. We’re half blind already.”

“Give me direct line to the colonel, final orders.”

“My console only.”

-A grizzled face removes its helmet and grabs at a headpiece. He nods to indicate he can hear.-

“I’m turning you over to the legio’s command, I’ve done what I can from here. As far as I can tell, they want the star port intact. Don’t let them have it.”

“And if they throw engines at us? I’ve got spitwads.”

“That rumbling you’re sensing is the legio approaching your position, the legio with full banner support. They will have to get through them first.”

“Aw Schucks, you shouldn’t have sir.”

-waves his hand, taps his headset… waits for comms officer to nod-

“This is our world Parvus, ugly as it may be, if the warmaster wants it he has to take it from us first.”

“Watch for sappers and infiltrators. I don’t expect they will play fair. Nor do I expect the princeps to care about what happens below ground once I pass you over to his command.”

“I’ve had my men trip-mine the sewer ducts. We’ll hold till dawn sir, just remind the legio to look down once in a while.”

“Once the battlegroup is outside the city the legio will have better eyes than us. You’ll have an idea of what to expect.”

“Oh and parvus, keep comms with the princeps brief, the poor fella’s got the comms chatter of a whole strategio in his head so keep it short and sweet.”

“My vox operator can send binary pings if..”

“Not funny Parv.”

“A bit funny. Dragoon actual over and out.”

-Grizzled face on the screen lights a lho stick, hands the head set off and puts his helmet back on-
“Get any non-essential staff into their shelters. Critical vox operators stay on station till the titans return to their gantries or we’re all dead.”

“Cycle all data feeds to the legio’s cogitator network and inload the legio’s iff’s to the city’s automated defense network. Can’t afford any blue on blue fire.”

“Where’s my adjutant!? Ah, there you are”

“Fetch the amesec, the good one! Top shelf. Two glasses, we’ve done everything we can. My lho sticks too!”

-He looks up at the last video feed coming in from an observation post. Fumbling over the command dial. switching over to IR spectrum, the silhouette of a traitor warhound now clearly back lit on the darkening horizon. It’s right arm quickly turning the brightness of a sun. The screen goes dark. He looks down at a glass of amasec with ice his adjutant just placed in front of him and takes it in his hand clinking the other in his adjutants hand-

“We’ve done all we could, it's the princeps turn.”

“This is an engine war now.”

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SamusDrake wrote:
I would not lose sleep over the exact scale as FW's reply to the issue was basically "we don't make our models with any certain scale in mind, and AT and AI is known as just Titanicus-scale".

Just use common sense and stick with model ranges that don't go over 10mm and you can't go wrong.


keep this as a tumb rule folks, the idea is to give the impression of scale, as a knight is as tall as a 28mm SM.
6mm or 8mm realy dont matter aslong as you use the same stuff across all your bases.



as for source, vanguard as allready mentioned is currently the best option,but allso have sites sutch as: https://www.onslaughtmini.com/11-6mm-sci-fi and https://www.trolls.cz/collections/6mm-infantry

and ofc Etsy, i see there are someone right now selling some 6mm copycat Russ, shadowsword and chimera.

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Not strictly AT, but I just got some Thunderhawks painted (on 60 mm bases, for reference) and I'm using Strafing Run often enough with my titans, so...

Whoosh! Thunderhawks are go!




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I'm working on some Legio Mortis pups... just about ready to decal...



 
   
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Tasty puppers, winterdyne. That velvety black is beautiful.

#ConvertEverything blog with loyalist Death Guard in true and Epic scales. Also Titans and killer robots! C&C welcome.
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Those Warhounds...so beautiful!

Are the weapons magnetized?

Back in the Epic Days, I'd pair up the Plasma Blastgun and the Turbo-Laser Destructors - and if I ever used the Flamestorm Cannon (I really didn't!), I might pair it with the Vulcan Mega-Bolter (My favorite Warhound weapon!).
   
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 Alpharius wrote:
Those Warhounds...so beautiful!

Are the weapons magnetized?



Yep, all weapons are magnetised, with a pair of each type available.

 
   
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 Sherrypie wrote:
Not strictly AT, but I just got some Thunderhawks painted (on 60 mm bases, for reference) and I'm using Strafing Run often enough with my titans, so...

Whoosh! Thunderhawks are go!



is that the transporter variant?
   
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Yup, two gunships and one transporter with Rhinos attached. Last one won't participate as a Strafing Run marker that often, funny ad the steel rain would be

#ConvertEverything blog with loyalist Death Guard in true and Epic scales. Also Titans and killer robots! C&C welcome.
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Do you like narrative gaming? Ongoing Imp vs. PDF rebellion campaign reports here:
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