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 Alpharius wrote:
Hmmm...

I think I'll just stick to my old Imperial and Xenos Titans for games of Epic then!

The difference is just too much.

Of course, I did lose my old Warhounds, so, I've got no choice there!

And BTW, that is a very nice Imperator!

He's in great condition!

Was he in your gaming stash for all this time, or did you recently acquire him?

Thanks! I've had two of them on the sprues in a box since I left GW... about 15 years ago ^^. Got them on the Spanish Direct Order service closing sale for the redshirts, for... 3 euros each, IIRC.

I might be using it as a Reaver or a Warbringer, now I guess

Well there sure is a difference as the old ones are in 2-3 mm scale and the new ones are heroic 6 mm, but it's not like the titan legio lists are competetively hot anyway in Epic

Honestly, I don't much care either way. I'm focusing in making everything match the infantry, which basically matches the titans, and on the whole it looks very cool, so I'm fine with it.

Gameplay is a second consideration, at best ^^

OTOH, I feel that E:40k Titans still work... a bigger footprint will have advantages and disadvantages, I think.

You're right!

And 3 Euro Imperators! Nice...

I've got plenty of the Old School Titans, and I rather like them, so I'm OK with sticking with them for Epic (2nd edition!) and patiently waiting for GW to finally get the Xenos Titans updated for New AT!

For AT it will only be table dress, but what the heck:

 Albertorius wrote:
For AT it will only be table dress, but what the heck:

In the molech book, there's a battlefield asset strategem called titan hunter infantry, let's you put a couple bases of infantry down in the stratagem phase that can shoot in the combat phase and get scooped in the end phase. You can take multiples of this too, so you can have like 4 bases of them or more if you're playing with enough strategem points.


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Warlord fully magnetized, ready to paint. Did a test of the tyrant siege terminators, based but still gotta paint them. Started painting the ship, did a few decals. The malahgras are based, still gotta do their skin.

Been working on my modular industrial terrain sets. This tester of the basic kit is 127 parts (of 208) and is missing a few pieces, like the railings for the main platform and some dressing items (crates, barrels)...

I may have overcooked this one.

Where are they from? Particularly the little ladders and platforms?

It's a prototype print of the kit I've designed. The kit as a whole isn't quite ready yet, but this is the basis of it. It'll be released on shop.winterdyne.co.uk when it's ready. Maybe toward the end of next week, but more likely the week after. It'll take a while to put the instruction sheet together.

winterdyne wrote:
It's a prototype print of the kit I've designed. The kit as a whole isn't quite ready yet, but this is the basis of it. It'll be released on shop.winterdyne.co.uk when it's ready. Maybe toward the end of next week, but more likely the week after. It'll take a while to put the instruction sheet together.

Awesome, it looks great. Definitely would pair well with the industrial terrain box. I like that it's got some open space for the barrels/crates/shipping containers but also likely space for titan hunter infantry from the looks of it. The at buildings I have now, I didn't account for leaving roof space to accommodate that so its rare I can even place a base of infantry on any of them.

Looks good Winterdyne, now I just need to pick up a printer.

Racerguy180 wrote:
Looks good Winterdyne, now I just need to pick up a printer.

I don't release designs.

winterdyne wrote:

Racerguy180 wrote:
Looks good Winterdyne, now I just need to pick up a printer.

I don't release designs.

Is it something you yourself will be printing for sale? It would go well with the refinery terrain I've got so far.

Yep. The basic tower set is very close to release now. There will be a number of 'addon' kits - tanks and silos that fit inside and on top of the tower, stairs and lifts to go on the outside.

First out though is a simple frame of crates and barrels (I had to print some spare as I'd sized them wrong on a prototype catwalk frame).

Awesome, the creates and drums are lookin good. Looking forward to the release

One thing the gw industrial stuff was lacking was open vats, I really wanna do like phosphex or something to match the toxic pools and get a bit more color on the table.

Another buzzer in the works, more chainfists for everyone as Flagellum Dei (Scourge of God) strides forth!

WOW looking great mate. Really nice conversion

I love the chainblade fingers, perfectly evil

Cheers lads

So, this weekend I've printed three super heavy tanks at the "correct" Epic scale (meaning, the scale of AT that is compatible with the infantry from Epic):

On a base to offset height issues:




Honestly? I can't see why these wouldn't work with the AT rules. Model them as a type of knights, basically, and you're done.

I’ve been thinking about that; put them on oval bases but facing the ‘narrow’ end, give them turns like Titans but have them cost movement and make them faster in a straight line than Knights but more subject to terrain.
If they were just differently shaped knights, they’d get boring fast, imho.

It's dangerous to start building, one might get carried away... by the Eraser of Deeds, Delictor Profectuum and his bigger boomsticks. It's time to get some proper missiles in 'ere

Maybe use them as count as porphyrions?

 Crablezworth wrote:
Maybe use them as count as porphyrions?

Maybe, although it seems that would be more appropriate for a titan killer super heavy, like a Shadowsword, for example...

In regular 40k, how do IG super heavies compare with knights? That should probably give us a frame of reference.

Same way tanks compare to mechs in MechWarrior; i.e. distractions so the real stars can sneak in unannounced. But that’s basically new-hotness syndrome so I don’t think it’s totally valid.

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Same way tanks compare to mechs in MechWarrior; i.e. distractions so the real stars can sneak in unannounced. But that’s basically new-hotness syndrome so I don’t think it’s totally valid.

Really, that bad? I would expect a Baneblade to be on the level with a regular knight, at least...

 Albertorius wrote:

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Same way tanks compare to mechs in MechWarrior; i.e. distractions so the real stars can sneak in unannounced. But that’s basically new-hotness syndrome so I don’t think it’s totally valid.

Really, that bad? I would expect a Baneblade to be on the level with a regular knight, at least...

Nah, mainly the problem tends to be that Knights are more mobile and have invulnerable saves that require more fire to be put on them compared to the 3+ armour of a Baneblade. In a meta where people gear their lists to kill Knights turn 1, Baneblades die faster. Shadowswords were the hottest thing a for a brief period, as their guns were super in this same role. With the Knights having codexes of their own, getting free relics and traits actually targeted for super heavies, they outpace the metal bawkses so much it's not even funny.

In a more laidback (or better organized and balanced system, take your pick) environment they are somewhat equal.

The other route is as stratagems like count as macro cannon battery, bit big tho. Those are oddly surviveable and activating in the first phase is always nice tho you're stuck not being able to move them.

 Crablezworth wrote:
The other route is as stratagems like count as macro cannon battery, bit big tho. Those are oddly surviveable and activating in the first phase is always nice tho you're stuck not being able to move them.

Make it cost one CP more and give it 8" of movement, moves and fires in the stratagem phase

 Albertorius wrote:

 Crablezworth wrote:
Maybe use them as count as porphyrions?

Maybe, although it seems that would be more appropriate for a titan killer super heavy, like a Shadowsword, for example...

In regular 40k, how do IG super heavies compare with knights? That should probably give us a frame of reference.

Well I can see their issue vs knights is mobility and CC. A few knights might be able to flip a super heavy.


One of my criticisms of knight's rules is the diminishing return on unit size, they just don't have any resiliency against high strength and it's a bit of a shame, the +1 integer bump is a bad incentive to add more knights past the minimum in the case of cerastus and questoris knights. I'm not sure what the harm would be in allowing a few more 5/6+ ion saves here and there. The maneuverability still makes them somewhat worth it but it'd be nice to have super heavies as an options to fill fill points here and there.


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 Sherrypie wrote:

 Crablezworth wrote:
The other route is as stratagems like count as macro cannon battery, bit big tho. Those are oddly surviveable and activating in the first phase is always nice tho you're stuck not being able to move them.

Make it cost one CP more and give it 8" of movement, moves and fires in the stratagem phase

Yeah that could work.