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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/01 23:43:18
Subject: Re:Sisters of Battle Heads Preview/Chapter Approved Beta Dex
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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I bought another gigantic display case from Ikea pretty recently. When I did I earmarked some space for a Sisters army. These renders make me feel like I made the right call. There are a few things I can nitpick at - as stated, the noses aren't great, and I personally am not crazy about the studs on the sabbat helmet, but I think they mostly look terrific and am really excited. I think I've gone past allocating storage for them and into starting to think about color schemes.
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lord_blackfang wrote:Respect to the guy who subscribed just to post a massive ASCII dong in the chat and immediately get banned.
Flinty wrote:The benefit of slate is that its.actually a.rock with rock like properties. The downside is that it's a rock |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/02 01:47:16
Subject: Re:Sisters of Battle Heads Preview/Chapter Approved Beta Dex
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Hooded Inquisitorial Interrogator
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It's certainly interesting that they are doing this army as a stage-by-stage project in front of our eyes. Maybe it's a prototype development plan where they continue to build hype and take feedback from fans throughout the process and if successful we may be privy to other "in the works" forces the studio is working on in the future. It also looks like they are using this approach with the codex rules.
If that's the case that's a brilliant bit of marketing, and ensures players get the "codex they want".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/02 03:44:58
Subject: Sisters of Battle Heads Preview/Chapter Approved Beta Dex
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Solahma
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@Galas - I think you're taking a joke a bit too literally. To clarify, te actual point is that a specific, distinctive wound like a missing eye is on the one hand nice because it's so characterful but on the other perhaps too characterful for a nameless squad member. A cybernetic eye, by comparison, is not as characterful in the context of augmented super soldiers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/02 07:09:34
Subject: Sisters of Battle Heads Preview/Chapter Approved Beta Dex
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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[Next GW Board meeting]
“So, what feedback have we gotten regarding the Sisters previews of bits not even necessarily final or all on the same sprue? Obviously everyone understands they’re early samples and just super early previews and will respond accordingly, that’s a given, but do they like them?
“Umm...” <shows internet to Board>
“And this is why we don’t design things by committee...”
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Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/02 07:19:49
Subject: Sisters of Battle Heads Preview/Chapter Approved Beta Dex
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Solahma
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Eh there seems to be broad agreement that these are at least mostly in the right direction.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/02 11:56:17
Subject: Re:Sisters of Battle Heads Preview/Chapter Approved Beta Dex
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Hive City Dweller wrote:It's certainly interesting that they are doing this army as a stage-by-stage project in front of our eyes. Maybe it's a prototype development plan where they continue to build hype and take feedback from fans throughout the process and if successful we may be privy to other "in the works" forces the studio is working on in the future. It also looks like they are using this approach with the codex rules.
If that's the case that's a brilliant bit of marketing, and ensures players get the "codex they want".
I certainly don’t think that this will be repeated. A big part of the reason why GW are so careful with their previews is that they don’t want to give the third party manufacturers a head start. Sisters are a unique case. They’ve clearly decided not to change the design, so we already have a very good idea what the finished minis will look like. That’s just not going to happen with something new such as the Idoneth.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/02 12:31:24
Subject: Sisters of Battle Heads Preview/Chapter Approved Beta Dex
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Tough-as-Nails Ork Boy
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More habit heads...with rebreathers! And some more hard-bitten women faces, as opposed to these mostly baby fat-faced teen-aged girl faces. A bit more...chiseled facial features, but not old Clint Eastwood/ Robert Redford craggy faces.  So far, so good on this army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/02 14:21:06
Subject: Sisters of Battle Heads Preview/Chapter Approved Beta Dex
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
Vigo. Spain.
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Manchu wrote:@Galas - I think you're taking a joke a bit too literally. To clarify, te actual point is that a specific, distinctive wound like a missing eye is on the one hand nice because it's so characterful but on the other perhaps too characterful for a nameless squad member. A cybernetic eye, by comparison, is not as characterful in the context of augmented super soldiers.
Oh, ok. If it was a joke then I apologize. I can see your point. Personally I have no problem with that. The more customization the better. I'll end up mixing heads from different kits anyway.
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Crimson Devil wrote:
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote:Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/02 14:45:09
Subject: Sisters of Battle Heads Preview/Chapter Approved Beta Dex
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Inquisitorial Keeper of the Xenobanks
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Waiting for the teaser vid wherein they melt and smash a 25yr old metal sisters model, then pat themselves on the back for coming out with something better, after, well, 25 years.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/05 06:48:46
Subject: Sisters of Battle Heads Preview/Chapter Approved Beta Dex
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote: Strg Alt wrote:HQ & elite SOB units on the other hand would benefit from combat heels to show their increased status.
GW of today is not afraid to give some of their models a subtle boost in sex appeal by handing out high heels which is a good decision.
No.
One thing's for certain - whatever GW do with the plastic Sisters release, someone will be very unhappy and there will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth.
I've got my own preferences and such as well, of course, but I'm sure I'll be at the least ok with whatever they produce. The one thing I trust modern GW with is turning out some rather excellent models...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/05 08:24:11
Subject: Sisters of Battle Heads Preview/Chapter Approved Beta Dex
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Hallowed Canoness
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I'm rather confident myself that GW will release good models. Strg Alt will likely be disappointed though.
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"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/05 08:55:54
Subject: Re:Sisters of Battle Heads Preview/Chapter Approved Beta Dex
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they also mention that the heads are from "pious initates to battle hardened veterans" it's possiable the "Becky style short hair" represents a new type of "initate unit" it'd not be the first monastic order in sci-fi that identified their recruits with a crew cut. *looks at the Jedi Padawan braid*
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/06 16:59:07
Subject: Re:Sisters of Battle Heads Preview/Chapter Approved Beta Dex
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Has anyone else wondered if glaringly obvious "this doesn't look so good" stuff like the noses might be some kind of attempt to protect GW's product while it's still in development stages?
Perhaps my tinfoil hat is on a little too tight, but has anyone else thought that perhaps GW are trying to put a stick between the spokes of the legions of re-casters and imitators by giving out previews for them to pirate that aren't faithful to the quality of the finished product.
Additionally, as much as I'd like there to be a bunch of different sisters troop types, why is everyone assuming we'll get "space marine scouts but they're sisters of battle" - my impression of that promo write-up was that there will be a range of heads in one troop box, representing a mixture of experience among the sororitas rank-and-file. As much as I'd like an amazingly diverse sisters range, looking at the troop options for most other factions in 40k, I think we'll be extremely lucky if we get much beyond plastic replacements for what already exists, and about 2 characters. (I'd be so happy to be proven wrong, however (unless it's sister superior Becky))
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/06 17:49:44
Subject: Re:Sisters of Battle Heads Preview/Chapter Approved Beta Dex
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posermcbogus wrote:Has anyone else wondered if glaringly obvious "this doesn't look so good" stuff like the noses might be some kind of attempt to protect GW's product while it's still in development stages?
Perhaps my tinfoil hat is on a little too tight, but has anyone else thought that perhaps GW are trying to put a stick between the spokes of the legions of re-casters and imitators by giving out previews for them to pirate that aren't faithful to the quality of the finished product.
Additionally, as much as I'd like there to be a bunch of different sisters troop types, why is everyone assuming we'll get "space marine scouts but they're sisters of battle" - my impression of that promo write-up was that there will be a range of heads in one troop box, representing a mixture of experience among the sororitas rank-and-file. As much as I'd like an amazingly diverse sisters range, looking at the troop options for most other factions in 40k, I think we'll be extremely lucky if we get much beyond plastic replacements for what already exists, and about 2 characters. (I'd be so happy to be proven wrong, however (unless it's sister superior Becky))
I'm not sure that even at the worst of times GW's lawyers thought they had a copyright for human faces. A Sister with a specific style of hood is much more likely to be copied by third party manufacturers than human faces modeled after something you can see if you look at the next best person. Especially if the reaction to the noses turns out to be unimpressed. Nah, that line of thinking is just paranoia.
It'll go one of two ways: we'll get what we have now in plastic or that and then some. We just don't know yet. It's no more or less logical to assume we get more than it is that we get less at this stage. And then the question becomes: which would you rather have? It's no fun speculating about the worst case scenario.
Obviously we could get an initiate unit or model profile inside a normal Sisters squad that is represented by short-haired heads on the model. That's just some sprue space and a head swap away from reality. But when you consider that we already have plenty of units with Sister in power armor with bolter available, and factor in GW's desire to make new models/ to incentivize purchases even from people who already have a functional Sisters army, it's not hard to believe that we might get a new unit with short hair to represent inexperienced recruits, possibly in less awesome gear because they haven't earned it yet.
As for being proven wrong, we'll see in time, but maybe you'll allow yourself to feel a little more optimism when you consider that an extra initiate unit is not a luxury. Even Necrons have two Troops choices these days. Having just a single option for Sisters would be decidedly substandard and having two is certainly not something you should consider extremely lucky.
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Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/06 23:21:46
Subject: Sisters of Battle Heads Preview/Chapter Approved Beta Dex
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Hallowed Canoness
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Geifer is spot on imo.
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"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/07 07:08:40
Subject: Re:Sisters of Battle Heads Preview/Chapter Approved Beta Dex
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BrianDavion wrote:they also mention that the heads are from "pious initates to battle hardened veterans" it's possiable the "Becky style short hair" represents a new type of "initate unit" it'd not be the first monastic order in sci-fi that identified their recruits with a crew cut. *looks at the Jedi Padawan braid*
Sisters traditionally recruited from Inquisitorial acolytes and the Storm troopers so they had considerable battle experience even before they donned their Power armor.
So I really hope SoB troop choices expand accordingly.
EDIT: Sorry, I was confused with WItchhunters Codex. Poster below me is right.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/07 07:13:50
Subject: Sisters of Battle Heads Preview/Chapter Approved Beta Dex
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Solahma
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Huh?
Adepta Sororitas recruits from Schola Progenium, a recruitment pool also fished by the Inquisition, Commissariat, and Ordo Tempestus. It's not that Sisters first pull duty as Acolytes, Commissars, or Storm Troopers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/07 16:41:36
Subject: Sisters of Battle Heads Preview/Chapter Approved Beta Dex
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Mighty Vampire Count
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Manchu wrote:Huh?
Adepta Sororitas recruits from Schola Progenium, a recruitment pool also fished by the Inquisition, Commissariat, and Ordo Tempestus. It's not that Sisters first pull duty as Acolytes, Commissars, or Storm Troopers.
Yep thats true  You don;t get "transferred" to the Sororitas. T
here is some lore that states that a senior Sororitas however can become a Inquisitor though.
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I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/08 15:31:41
Subject: Sisters of Battle Heads Preview/Chapter Approved Beta Dex
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/08 15:33:20
Subject: Sisters of Battle Heads Preview/Chapter Approved Beta Dex
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Mighty Vampire Count
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Bi'ios wrote: Mr Morden wrote: Manchu wrote:Huh?
Adepta Sororitas recruits from Schola Progenium, a recruitment pool also fished by the Inquisition, Commissariat, and Ordo Tempestus. It's not that Sisters first pull duty as Acolytes, Commissars, or Storm Troopers.
Yep thats true  You don;t get "transferred" to the Sororitas. T
here is some lore that states that a senior Sororitas however can become a Inquisitor though.
Right, but by that same note, *anybody* with the right attitude, motivation, and connections can become an Inquisitor. Inquisitorial acolytes come from all walks of life.
IIRC it was more of the go straight into the role of Inquisitor rather than the more usual route
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I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/528517.page
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/10 22:25:51
Subject: Re:Sisters of Battle Heads Preview/Chapter Approved Beta Dex
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Creepy Crooligan
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Any lore reasons why battle sisters have ugly man's faces? Same Eshers gangers. On artworks there are cool strong and pretty.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/10 22:34:12
Subject: Re:Sisters of Battle Heads Preview/Chapter Approved Beta Dex
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Mc Devil wrote:Any lore reasons why battle sisters have ugly man's faces? Same Eshers gangers. On artworks there are cool strong and pretty.
Pretty certain for the same reason your avatar isn't wearing lipstick or mascara.
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Bender wrote:* Realise that despite the way people talk, this is not a professional sport played by demi gods, but rather a game of toy soldiers played by tired, inebriated human beings.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/11 00:14:26
Subject: Re:Sisters of Battle Heads Preview/Chapter Approved Beta Dex
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Yes.
“In the 40th millenium, stupid people die quite easily given how dangerous the grimdark is, so noone is left alive to tell the Sisters that they should put more effort on their appearance for the benefit of troglodites”.
Straight out of the 2nd edition codex.
Which also gives us the most canonical depiction of a Sister's face ever:
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"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/11 01:08:20
Subject: Sisters of Battle Heads Preview/Chapter Approved Beta Dex
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I really feel like I am going to have a super easy time finding the heads I want because I really, really love that short haired #3 and it sounds like most people will be checking them in the garbage.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/11 05:57:33
Subject: Re:Sisters of Battle Heads Preview/Chapter Approved Beta Dex
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Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Yes.
“In the 40th millenium, stupid people die quite easily given how dangerous the grimdark is, so noone is left alive to tell the Sisters that they should put more effort on their appearance for the benefit of troglodites”.
Straight out of the 2nd edition codex.
Which also gives us the most canonical depiction of a Sister's face ever:
I must be honest, the only artwork in GW history that I've hated more than THAT GUY'S artwork is Blanche's. Some of my least favorite pieces in GW history at by him.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/11 06:03:51
Subject: Sisters of Battle Heads Preview/Chapter Approved Beta Dex
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Blanches art is almost like stylized surrealism though, his work is dripping with atmosphere and aesthetics. Much prefer it over the slapdash photoshop work we have been getting the past few years. Kopinski was probably the best artist GW had working for them, I think he left quite some time ago. I hope some of these sisters heads simply look better painted, with a render it's hard to tell sometimes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/11 06:51:38
Subject: Sisters of Battle Heads Preview/Chapter Approved Beta Dex
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The bare female Stormcast heads have turned out very well. I would hope for that quality or better for the Sisters.
Currently selling most of my Warmahordes stuff off in anticipation of the new SoB stuff.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/11 06:52:35
Subject: Re:Sisters of Battle Heads Preview/Chapter Approved Beta Dex
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Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Yes.
“In the 40th millenium, stupid people die quite easily given how dangerous the grimdark is, so noone is left alive to tell the Sisters that they should put more effort on their appearance for the benefit of troglodites”.
Straight out of the 2nd edition codex.
Which also gives us the most canonical depiction of a Sister's face ever:
that doesn't mean they all should have a manly face
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/11 08:15:32
Subject: Re:Sisters of Battle Heads Preview/Chapter Approved Beta Dex
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Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Yes.
“In the 40th millenium, stupid people die quite easily given how dangerous the grimdark is, so noone is left alive to tell the Sisters that they should put more effort on their appearance for the benefit of troglodites”.
Straight out of the 2nd edition codex.
Which also gives us the most canonical depiction of a Sister's face ever:
Is that Wayne England?
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Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/11 12:47:50
Subject: Sisters of Battle Heads Preview/Chapter Approved Beta Dex
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
Vigo. Spain.
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Yeah, they look feminine heads for me. Just not female elven but female human.
And as they have said, renders have normally more of a potato face because they have to account for the medium.
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Crimson Devil wrote:
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote:Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
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