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Ninth Greenskins might have rules and be in the lore, but GW took all their models off sale including their Getting started boxed set.

Old rules and the lore are, honestly, no defence for a faction sticking around. Plus I'd have thought GW would have kept Greenskins around even if just in one current kit if they were going to bring them back in the next two years or so

They are mentioned by name in the Gloomspite book and are on their list of allies, which was published after they pulled the models. Ditto for Gitmob.

Maybe they'll see a comeback later. I am also willing to bet that we're going to see a consolidated Orruk tome rather than separate ones.

 Eldarsif wrote:
Maybe they'll see a comeback later. I am also willing to bet that we're going to see a consolidated Orruk tome rather than separate ones.

I am thinking Ironjawz + Greenskinz put together with Bonesplittaz left on their own. Reason being that the Bonesplittaz battletome is still fine and hasn't had any problems since they fixed kunnin' rukk, and that they are a separate ally in Gloomspite. But I would not be surprised if they did wrap them all together, or if they kept them all separate (though the latter I see as a bit less likely).

They could also make Bonesplittaz a sub-faction within an Orruk tome. Didn't they do something similar with Skaven and the Pestilens?

Pestilence had a book way back in dec 2015 in the first early days of AOS.

The new skaven book has all of the skaven in it.

I would be highly surprised if the orc book did not recombine all of the orcs.

But then again the new goblin book left out wolf riders and the like so... who knows. They seem to throw a dart at the board in terms of their direction and then they change that direction every three months or so.

Wolf Riders could be joining another force for all we know.

What I do sense, though, is that GW regrets splitting all the factions up too much and are now consolidating as much as they trust themselves. I mean, it is technically easier to have a few larger forces and then later on expand them into individual forces rather than having multiple smaller forces that each need to be expanded.


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New Khorne article up.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/03/14/mar-14-blades-of-khorne-preview-3-ways-to-build-your-armygw-homepage-post-4/?fbclid=IwAR1Sin9KXhZFWOe4AbGDOWFe8SbxA_M_5SLOAk7IKzt92jr4DUgvmFwnT20

It I was a betting man, I’d say that one day all Orc factions will be consolidated into one book. The Waaagh will be it’s common theme (like how the Gloomspite is for the grots), and it’ll pretty much be a combination of regular orruks, bonesplitta orruks, and the Ironjawz as leaders. Maybe to make regular orruks more distinctive, they could feature incredibly crude black powder weapons, like how the ogres do.

Or there won't be regular orcs, just ironjaws and bonesplittas.

A possibility. Would be a shame though. Especially since, if I remember correctly, both Ironjawz and Bonesplittas recruit from regular orruk tribes. The former allow ‘ardboyz’ in, whilst the latter are orks who go a bit ‘off’ due to too much Waaagh going through their heads.

Just like with humans, you need ‘regular’ orks to set a benchmark.

I agree with auticus in that I'd have expected to see regular goblins thrown in with gloomspite stuff.


I'd also say that ironjawz, bonesplittaz and regular orcs will get thrown into a book together.
While regular orcs are on the verge of being squatted, I think they may scrape by.
Tons of new fluff still talks about them quite alot.

While that's not alot to base it on, I wouldn't mind betting they stay.

They do however share the boar sprues with bone splittaz, not that it really matters lol.

Got an idea:

All three orruk factions are into the waaagh, but it manifests itself in different ways; bonesplittas want to kill, eat and take the bones of great beasts, Ironjawz want to bring down civilisation and fight endlessly against worthy foes...‘regular’ orruks want to loot everything in sight and show off in the process.

In other words, Ironjawz are Goths, Bonesplittas are a combo of Deathskullz (superstition and blue warpaint) and Snake Bitez (traditional), and regular orruks are a combo of Freebootas, Badmoons and the looting aspect of Deathskullz.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/03/15/sam-wrathmonger-pearsons-blades-of-khorne-tacticsgw-homepage-post-4/

More info about Khorne. Some welcome changes like the Bloodsecrator can finally move while using his ability(although a nerf is attached to that change) and Blood Warriors with Gorefist now have the same rules as Witch Aelves with bucklers, ie. Mortal Wound on an unmodified 6.

I am really liking the changes that have been revealed so far for Khorne.

Now the blood warrior change makes me happy.

Excellent stuff.

Liking both of those changes, to be sure.

I always found the old Bloodsecrator to be weirdly designed for an army like Khorne. You want the army to charge into your enemy, not create a perimeter or conga-line just to get buffs. With the changes to the Bloodsecrator he can now finally run like the Khorne fanatic he is into enemy lines.

NinthMusketeer wrote:It was before. Afaik we have not actually lost any whole factions following the big cull. Greenskinz & Gitmob we have lost the models but they have made it clear they are still armies in the fluff & rules so that just means a relaunch at some point.

I hope there will be a relaunch, but I feel like if they really wanted to relaunch them they wouldn't have pulled the entire range from the site. I feel like Gloomspite might have been published and finished before the decision to pull the Orks off of the range was complete. In the podcasts they've mentioned that sometimes books can sit around for a while because the models got delayed. Wouldn't surprise me if Gloomspite Gitz was supposed to launch earlier in the year.

Meanwhile in the realm of Hysh...

Artwork intended for the mobile game, but considering we haven't got a proper look into the realm...

I just get a lot of Draenei vibe from this screenshot with a hint of Blood Elf.


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Wrathmongers no longer add attacks to enemy units unless they have the Khorne tag. Looking forward to trying them out now.

 Eldarsif wrote:
I just get a lot of Draenei vibe from this screenshot with a hint of Blood Elf.


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I am positive that's because they've ripped off the draenei to make that.

 Eldarsif wrote:
I just get a lot of Draenei vibe from this screenshot with a hint of Blood Elf.


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Wrathmongers no longer add attacks to enemy units unless they have the Khorne tag. Looking forward to trying them out now.

I don’t know how to feel about that change to ‘Mongers.

And great to see Hysh. It has (ironically) been so unclear so far.

Jackal90 wrote:
I agree with auticus in that I'd have expected to see regular goblins thrown in with gloomspite stuff.
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It only would have happened if they had added new regular goblin models, and the gloomspite release was rather big as it was. Certainly bigger than I expected it to be when they first announced it. Though I'm disappointed a forest goblin unit didn't happen.

This doesn't apply as much to regular orks, but the common gobbo models have been in desperate need of replacement for decades, I'm not shocked they vanished, even if only until a later release. Also, Night goblins are pretty identifiably Warhammer, but common ones weren't as much, too much 'standard fantasy' bleedover, perhaps.


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Definitely too much Warcraft in that Hysh screenshot. It looks like it came straight out of the Argus zone in the Legion expansion. They would have done better doing a version of the high elf towers from various old battle reports in crystal

Yup, immediately saw draenei.

In fairness that game doesn't really try to take itself too seriously - heck the "armies" you play with aren't even faction locked so its more "throw whatever you want on the table"

I am honestly kind of at a loss with Greenskinz getting pulled, I mained Orcs and Goblins back in the day. But with more of a heavier Orruk focus. I've been working on a small Ironjawz force. But I was really hoping to main my old models.

 Overread wrote:
In fairness that game doesn't really try to take itself too seriously - heck the "armies" you play with aren't even faction locked so its more "throw whatever you want on the table"

The style is cartoony, however, the particle effects and the color scheme is something that will be in character. We might hear more info about this college in the future, it's a piece of new information to take in.

NinthMusketeer wrote:Yup, immediately saw draenei.

As I haven't played WoW, how do you (guys and girls) feel about it?

Considering how GW has, to me anyway, openly gone after the warmahordes players and embraced the WoW playstyle and fanbase, this does not surprise me at all.

I can live with it.

The app has updated all the warscrolls for Khorne.

Wrath of Khorne bloodthirster can now dispel endless magic

Skullreapers are now the same weapon profile regardless of loadout

Have a feeling Skullreapers and Wrathmongers will see a bit more field day.

Skarbrand is a beast. Expensive, but a beast.

I am really liking the changes. Most of them are lowkey, but make them more in line with the armies that are going on. Really looking forward to fielding a force on the table when the tome comes out.