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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/08 03:06:33
Subject: How many of us are boycotting Forgeworld?
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Yeah, not so much a boycott as their products are no longer worth the price they currently charge.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/08 03:26:40
Subject: How many of us are boycotting Forgeworld?
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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Not so much boycotting as 'never could afford anyway'...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/08 03:31:59
Subject: How many of us are boycotting Forgeworld?
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Not boycotting, but I haven't bought much from them anyways.
Bummed to find out that the Land Raider reinforced armor isn't for sale anymore. If I had known they were getting rid of it I would have bought two more sets.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/08 03:59:30
Subject: How many of us are boycotting Forgeworld?
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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I think I have the few items I thought were reasonable value for money in my collection. If other things I want appear I'll buy them, but what I got for £250 this month feels underwhelming to the stack of plastics I could have had.
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Imperial Soup
2200pts/1750 painted
2800pts/1200 painted
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/08 04:16:19
Subject: How many of us are boycotting Forgeworld?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Voted no on the boycott, but I have yet to be a customer anyway.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/08 04:20:23
Subject: Re:How many of us are boycotting Forgeworld?
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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I'm not buying any Forgeworld stuff anymore.
I wouldn't call it a boycott per se because I'm not like, trying to force a broader change or morally opposed to them for some reason; I just no longer think their products are worth the premium combined with a lack of appealing products. When I find stuff I wan secondhand on ebay then I would buy them now although it's been a while even for secondhand, I think my last purchase was some purity seals from a DCM bro a while ago.
If they had products that piqued my interest and I felt were priced appropriately I would still buy them but that doesn't seem to have been the case for some time. My last direct order was I believe in mid-2016 or thereabouts. It all seems to be Megazords and Horus Heresy now.
I mostly like Orks and Necrons, and I haven't seen any new Ork stuff in a really long time, I don't think. The last Necron FW stuff was roughly 2011 (right?) and that was, to be honest, pretty poor effort - some of the models felt like lazy, half ass conversions of existing plastic kits that an amateur scratchbuilder could have done.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/08 04:24:50
Subject: How many of us are boycotting Forgeworld?
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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TapedTempest wrote:I'm curious to see how many people are standing against Forgeworld still, since the pitchforks and torches seem to have been put down. (I say that with a pinch of disappointment.)
Who's boycotting them, is this actually a thing. This is so stupid. If you boycott FW, you are damaging GW, I'd rather have the company continue existing. I'm not a GW apple polisher but boycotting doesn't solve anything. Their rules aren't great at the moment, so what, they won't always be, I'll continue adding to my collection while everyone has a strop.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/08 04:56:09
Subject: How many of us are boycotting Forgeworld?
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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in the past year I've probably spent $1000 on stuff from them and was(not really) happy to pay their stupid VAT crap as my card doesn't charge me for foreign currency conv. But with the change to "local" currency and resultant price hike all of the big ($100)+ models I've been looking at are off the table, I'm just gonna buy the upgrade stuff for my salamanders and nothing else. if they see a large drop off of higher ($¥£€) models it could really eat into their profits and signal that they might want to look at their pricing structure. but probably not.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/08 04:58:46
Subject: How many of us are boycotting Forgeworld?
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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Delvarus Centurion wrote: TapedTempest wrote:I'm curious to see how many people are standing against Forgeworld still, since the pitchforks and torches seem to have been put down. (I say that with a pinch of disappointment.)
Who's boycotting them, is this actually a thing. This is so stupid. If you boycott FW, you are damaging GW, I'd rather have the company continue existing. I'm not a GW apple polisher but boycotting doesn't solve anything. Their rules aren't great at the moment, so what, they won't always be, I'll continue adding to my collection while everyone has a strop.
Since you're in the UK Del you may be unaware but when they shifted over to the regional pricing people in North America got hit with something like a 30% price increase. THAT is why there was talk of a Boycott.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/08 05:13:05
Subject: How many of us are boycotting Forgeworld?
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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BrianDavion wrote: Delvarus Centurion wrote: TapedTempest wrote:I'm curious to see how many people are standing against Forgeworld still, since the pitchforks and torches seem to have been put down. (I say that with a pinch of disappointment.)
Who's boycotting them, is this actually a thing. This is so stupid. If you boycott FW, you are damaging GW, I'd rather have the company continue existing. I'm not a GW apple polisher but boycotting doesn't solve anything. Their rules aren't great at the moment, so what, they won't always be, I'll continue adding to my collection while everyone has a strop.
Since you're in the UK Del you may be unaware but when they shifted over to the regional pricing people in North America got hit with something like a 30% price increase. THAT is why there was talk of a Boycott.
Ah, fair enough then. I thought it was due to the rules.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/08 06:13:02
Subject: How many of us are boycotting Forgeworld?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I'm not, but I'm british so I'm not seeing the price hike. If I was, I'd probably boycott it or feel justified looking for "alternatives".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/08 07:27:51
Subject: How many of us are boycotting Forgeworld?
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Dipping With Wood Stain
Sheep Loveland
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I'm currently boycotting them part in my own experience and also the experience of others and their business practices.
In my case the model I purchased required so much cleaning, reshaping and even then it just wouldn't fit correctly. For a £60 item i was a little disappointed to say the least.
Friends have also had bad experiences and one had to return his item THREE times before he got all the correct parts, and even then the quality was shocking. One had super bendy resin from a incorrect resin mix confirming to me that their "quality check" is to make sure all the parts are included - no matter the actual state of the parts...
The price increases don't affect me personally but I still think its a rather scummy business practice and just pure greed IMHO. I'll be using recasters until FW see sense and foreign prices are lowered and their internal quality is a lot better.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/08 07:38:09
Subject: How many of us are boycotting Forgeworld?
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
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I am not boycotting FW but seeing as they have discontinued the R&H infantry they are doing a flaming good job of it for me had I intended to.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/08 08:09:14
Subject: How many of us are boycotting Forgeworld?
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Gore-Drenched Khorne Chaos Lord
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Not boycotting them but then again they're barely releasing anything at the minute so not a lot to boycott
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/08 08:16:16
Subject: How many of us are boycotting Forgeworld?
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Ship's Officer
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I'm not boycotting them, but I honestly only bought maybe 1 or 2 things direct from forgeworld in the past 3 years. If/when they release something I actually need, i'd still consider buying. Only thing I could see myself considering this year would maybe be the delaque resin upgrades, but if Delaque comes out in november/dec...the upgrades won't be out until next year so whatever.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/08 08:16:38
Subject: How many of us are boycotting Forgeworld?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I'm not boycotting, but I'm not buying either. Nothing I want since finishing my iron warriors.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/08 08:55:18
Subject: How many of us are boycotting Forgeworld?
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
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I have never bought from FW, and will not be going forward unless something changes. They've been price gouging my country since I started the hobby, so I'm not going to support that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/08 09:03:50
Subject: How many of us are boycotting Forgeworld?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Dudeface wrote:Not boycotting them but then again they're barely releasing anything at the minute so not a lot to boycott
Adeptus Titanicus just came out. New Blood Bowl team literally on pre-order this week. Necromunda is chucking along with steady releases. Middle Earth wargame just relaunched with a new starter box.
They've literally never released more stuff than in the last couple of months than ever before.
I just suppose people don't "recognize" it as the stuff coming from the specialist games department (formerly FW) if it isn't resin Imperial Guard tanks or Rhino doors?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/08 09:16:32
Subject: How many of us are boycotting Forgeworld?
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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gnome_idea_what wrote:Same as Reemule, their prices went from “too high for me to consider in the first place” to “even higher,” so nothing changed for me. It’s kind of a shame, too. FW makes some really cool stuff, it’s just out of my price range.
Ditto. There's some cool tanks and such on their website I'd love to get, but never at the prices they charge. Their recent move just put them even further out of my reach.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/08 09:36:10
Subject: How many of us are boycotting Forgeworld?
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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Sunny Side Up wrote:Dudeface wrote:Not boycotting them but then again they're barely releasing anything at the minute so not a lot to boycott
Adeptus Titanicus just came out. New Blood Bowl team literally on pre-order this week. Necromunda is chucking along with steady releases. Middle Earth wargame just relaunched with a new starter box.
They've literally never released more stuff than in the last couple of months than ever before.
I just suppose people don't "recognize" it as the stuff coming from the specialist games department (formerly FW) if it isn't resin Imperial Guard tanks or Rhino doors?
A lotta people think "resin minis ordered direct rom forge world" when they ehar forge world, I do tend to agree with the sentiment that if FW's quality control is lacking then why would you wanna order from them?
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Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/08 09:39:27
Subject: How many of us are boycotting Forgeworld?
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Oozing Plague Marine Terminator
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There's simply not much left I'd want from Forgeworld. The occasional middle earth miniature, though most of them are still GW. I'll buy the two new Orcs when they come out, maybe Thranduil as well.
Concerning 40K I got most of what I needed - Plague Hulk, Blight Drone, Necrosius, some 30K upgrade sets, DG Contemptor, DG Dreads, DG conversion sets. If they put out a Leviathan DG dread I'd be tempted, but right now it seems they're reducing HH. In my gaming group every interest in starting 30K has disappeared with their decision to keep 7th edition rules.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/08 09:50:28
Subject: How many of us are boycotting Forgeworld?
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Furious Fire Dragon
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I'm not boycotting, but I hardly buy from them anyway - bought one Avatar of Khaine in person in Nottingham about 6 months ago but that's it. Pleased I did too, since that's one of the models that seems to have vanished with no warning since.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/08 09:59:23
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Assassin with Black Lotus Poison
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Considering I've only ever bought two forge world products (XV88-2, now discontinued as GW wants people to buy the plastic overweight broadside model, and a Carmine Dragon to serve as Malekith's mount) and both of them were years ago, I suppose I am unintentionally boycotting them! But that is just because they don't make anything I am interested in. I don't care for giant stompy robots, don't care for space marines of any variety, etc. so the majority of their stuff just doesn't appeal to me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/08 11:14:36
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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They removed a lot of what I wanted, dark angels upgrades, certain weapon options I need to complete my army as well as certain MKs of armour I prefer in resin, then the price hike came for non U.K. people and I think they are taking the pee, it tipped me over the edge, I no longer want to buy from FW unless they change the pricing policy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/08 11:29:04
Subject: How many of us are boycotting Forgeworld?
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Deathwing Terminator with Assault Cannon
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Not boycotting, but the only thing I'm likely to pick up in the next year is the Talons of the Emperor 40K book.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/08 11:31:16
Subject: How many of us are boycotting Forgeworld?
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Solahma
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I don't need to consciously boycott a business that sells toys that I cannot reasonably afford.
Or have I been boycotting Ferrari all these years?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/08 12:21:04
Subject: How many of us are boycotting Forgeworld?
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Gore-Drenched Khorne Chaos Lord
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Sunny Side Up wrote:Dudeface wrote:Not boycotting them but then again they're barely releasing anything at the minute so not a lot to boycott
Adeptus Titanicus just came out. New Blood Bowl team literally on pre-order this week. Necromunda is chucking along with steady releases. Middle Earth wargame just relaunched with a new starter box.
They've literally never released more stuff than in the last couple of months than ever before.
I just suppose people don't "recognize" it as the stuff coming from the specialist games department (formerly FW) if it isn't resin Imperial Guard tanks or Rhino doors?
I also believe we were told the specialist games department would have no knock on effects for their mainstay releases.
In the nicest way possible, they have previewed multiple books for main 40k and nothing has come from them. They've lost more options and models from their store than they've added over the last few months, including full ranges.
Middle Earth is also being launched under main GW banners, the forgeworld aspects of it appear to be being kept separate.
If removing full ranges = gaining some specialist game teams and a new game with a 4 model range, that's pretty poor form
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/08 12:25:33
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Horrific Hive Tyrant
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I would suspect that something like 90% of the people spouting vitriol against Forgeworld and claiming to boycott then have either never bought anything from them anyway, or could count the number of kits ever purchased direct from them on one hand.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/08 12:30:02
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Confessor Of Sins
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I’m buy models from GW. They are overpriced by definition. I could care less about the exchange rate they choose to use. When they make something I want, I’ll decide it is either worth buying or too expensive to buy at that point.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/08 12:38:35
Subject: How many of us are boycotting Forgeworld?
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Highlord with a Blackstone Fortress
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Stux wrote:I would suspect that something like 90% of the people spouting vitriol against Forgeworld and claiming to boycott then have either never bought anything from them anyway, or could count the number of kits ever purchased direct from them on one hand.
That would also account for the vast majority of Dakka.
Most forum members cant realistically afford Forge World products and never could.
The 'boycott' is a bit much, its clearly a luxury product and you pay a luxury price for the privilege of whatever you are getting. You don't boycott the Ritz because you cant afford to stay there, you go elsewhere.
I know of one or two Forge World whales through third parties, never met them or seen the collection. One is a severely disabled person who is on a vial of morphine a day. He lives for his hobby, it is all he has got. He buys lots of Forge World stuff. Forge World being a luxury service genuinely looks after its whales, as opposed to other gaming whale harvesters like Cloud Imperium who just laugh in their cups and exploit them, the difference is that Forge World see themselves as craftsmen doing a craftsmans service with a physical product, not as wheeler-dealer salesmen. It is very much in the mindset of the single customer orientated cottage industry the discerning connoisseur goes to. Which also has a webfront tacked on.
It is said from those who know him that his orders are placed on priority and everything is double checked for him, there is a personal customer rapport. A bit like rich ladies who shop habitually at Harrods get known by name and are looked after wherever they go.
Forge World being a luxury outfit relies heavily on its whales and the customer service it offers to them. There is a webfront for everyone and if they have to raise prices it doesn't effect their core business that much.
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