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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/10 16:00:51
Subject: Ice World Mat, what terrain to add?
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Dipping With Wood Stain
Sheep Loveland
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I'm planning to get an ice World Mat as a nice change of theme from the urban/industrial/badlands mats the group I play with use, and as such, I'm thinking of what terrain to use.
Now, in my group we have very little if any people using the STC Ryza ruins or death world terrain or eldritch Ruins. My idea was to use them to create a mechanicum outpost /habitation bloc overrun by the deathworld native plants, and the center is the xeno Ruins they were researching.
Pics for reference :
Plenty of soft cover and LoS blockers from the deathworld plants and STC Ruins with a bit of both from the xeno Ruins. I'll probably add some "ice" boulders repainted from other kits to add full LoS hinderence.
Your ideas on this endeavour gentlemen/ladies?
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40k: Thousand Sons World Eaters
30k: Imperial Fists 405th Company |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/10 16:13:35
Subject: Ice World Mat, what terrain to add?
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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None of what you posted is line-of-sight blocking unless you're using some house rules for area terrain etc. You'll really want some hills/escarpments/ice flows to provide actual line-of-sight blocking. Large glacier sections, or ravines in the ice. An abandoned ship carcass would be cool (space ship or surface vessel).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/10 16:23:17
Subject: Ice World Mat, what terrain to add?
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Dipping With Wood Stain
Sheep Loveland
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Elbows wrote:None of what you posted is line-of-sight blocking unless you're using some house rules for area terrain etc. You'll really want some hills/escarpments/ice flows to provide actual line-of-sight blocking. Large glacier sections, or ravines in the ice. An abandoned ship carcass would be cool (space ship or surface vessel).
Very good ideas! And true, I was thinking more of kill team (played way too much of it!) so would adding a couple of stacks of these around be good as a true LoS blocking terrain?
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40k: Thousand Sons World Eaters
30k: Imperial Fists 405th Company |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/10 17:29:58
Subject: Ice World Mat, what terrain to add?
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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For kill team yes. For 40k less so. Hiding whole squad behind those requires quite a lot.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/10 17:34:39
Subject: Ice World Mat, what terrain to add?
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Ah, okay, yeah for Killteam, etc. the bits you've showed could easily be blocking LOS, my bad. The Killzone with the containers is pretty fantastic for easy LOS blocking even at a 40K scale (you get six of those containers in a single box!)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/10 18:36:05
Subject: Re:Ice World Mat, what terrain to add?
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
Alaska
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One way you might be able to use the Ryza Ruins as LoS blocking terrain in regular 40k is to make them the second story walls (or the tops of tall single-story walls) and have large snowdrifts covering the first story.
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YELL REAL LOUD AN' CARRY A BIG CHOPPA! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/10 18:43:56
Subject: Ice World Mat, what terrain to add?
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Ya know was thinking about how to use those xeno plants.
was thinking maybe a good way to get them to actually function as terrain, you could spray in under side leg area with expanding foam to carve out rocks. that way they block los.
though i have no idea what they do in game so might not be worth it.
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Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/10 19:07:22
Subject: Ice World Mat, what terrain to add?
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Preacher of the Emperor
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Or you just house rule them to block LoS in 40k.
Desubot wrote:Ya know was thinking about how to use those xeno plants.
was thinking maybe a good way to get them to actually function as terrain, you could spray in under side leg area with expanding foam to carve out rocks. that way they block los.
though i have no idea what they do in game so might not be worth it.
I like it. Alternatively fill them with shredded gauze bandages to create a mesh that would look like like dense spidery strands of stuff and prevent LoS. Or real lichen would do the same thing for a less man made made look.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/06/10 13:28:44
Subject: Re:Ice World Mat, what terrain to add?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Attached a few pictures from my groups table when we have it in ice planet mood. The more terrain is usually better
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/10 19:31:03
Subject: Ice World Mat, what terrain to add?
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Uuh sparse board.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/10 21:55:22
Subject: Re:Ice World Mat, what terrain to add?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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My groups added more since then but you have to balance between having large units and tanks being able to move around vs more terrain. Otherwise Bikes and Skimmers just dominate and tracked vehicles get to shoot once or twice per game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/10 23:30:53
Subject: Ice World Mat, what terrain to add?
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Fixture of Dakka
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One of the tables at my store is a scifi Ice terrain. There is a ton of styrofoam hills and crystals on it. Plus an Ice station and some bunkers or mine vents ment for infinity terrain. Stuff looks cool, but most people don't want to play on it because it is too dense for them.
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If you have to kill, then kill in the best manner. If you slaughter, then slaughter in the best manner. Let one of you sharpen his knife so his animal feels no pain. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/11 00:12:09
Subject: Ice World Mat, what terrain to add?
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Regular Dakkanaut
Right Behind You
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One thing you could do, instead of just hills, is habitat domes. Nothing has to be massive, you can just say they're access points to a larger under ice facility. You could also do a few collapsed domes instead of just craters, so they'd even have leftover walls.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/11 02:36:41
Subject: Ice World Mat, what terrain to add?
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/11 03:33:10
Subject: Ice World Mat, what terrain to add?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Watch the movie "The Thing" with Kurt Russel. Plenty of ice imagery there.
If you are looking to add a 3D feeling, some "ice ramps" leading up to a landing would look cool.
Also, tunnels. It sounds a bit silly, but sculpting any hill over a 6 inch-long piece of large PCV piping cut into a U shape adds nice line of sight blocking terrain, multiple play levels, and a nice place to hide.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 0003/09/11 05:45:38
Subject: Ice World Mat, what terrain to add?
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Furious Fire Dragon
USA
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Very cool site, too bad its unpainted.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/11 06:01:38
Subject: Ice World Mat, what terrain to add?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I hate to say it, but you might have to go back to an industrial setting. A oil refinery in the middle of a winter wonderland. The oil tanks would give alot of LOS blocking.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/11 06:24:51
Subject: Ice World Mat, what terrain to add?
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Dipping With Wood Stain
Sheep Loveland
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chaos0xomega wrote:http://thminiatures.com/en/24-snow
Youre welcome!
Very nice terrain, but it's a bit to AoS/Frostgrave looking for the buildings, but those ice walls look great!
Avor wrote:I hate to say it, but you might have to go back to an industrial setting. A oil refinery in the middle of a winter wonderland. The oil tanks would give alot of LOS blocking.
I'm loathe to do that as we ALWAYS play on industrial terrain and it would be nice to have a change. I'm thinking of getting one of these on top an ice shelf to add a large centre piece LoS blocker
Just scratch build a ramp or two and it should be good!
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40k: Thousand Sons World Eaters
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/11 06:41:16
Subject: Ice World Mat, what terrain to add?
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Well that's not much of a los blocker either...The corners are only ones that provide LOS blocking. Rest you won't hide even a grot. Well on top if you aren't on wall you can get LOS block from under at least
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/11 10:15:58
Subject: Ice World Mat, what terrain to add?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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You could petition GW to sort out their stupid Line of Sight rules. Failing that, I like the suggestion about snow drifts blocking the lower windows. Or, wait til the Christmas season and buy a bunch of those adorable, decorative snow-covered houses. Then drill a load of bullet holes in the walls, add some scorch marks and model a bunch of dead civilians sprawled on their steps.
Now that's a 40k Christmas.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/11 10:27:08
Subject: Ice World Mat, what terrain to add?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Did anyone say ice? Otherwise simple stuff is rocky ridge poking out of ice covered in snow. Insulation foam for ridge/expanding foam for clump, savage cutting device or hot wire cutter and you are away. Pine forest. Buildings with snow on (sci fi mechanicus outpost obviously).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/11 13:47:03
Subject: Ice World Mat, what terrain to add?
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh
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If I knew my table could hold the weight I'd just go grab some appropriately sized rocks, spray them light blue, drybrush them white and use them as LoS blocking ice formations.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/11 14:03:49
Subject: Ice World Mat, what terrain to add?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Excommunicatus wrote:If I knew my table could hold the weight I'd just go grab some appropriately sized rocks, spray them light blue, drybrush them white and use them as LoS blocking ice formations.
You could probably get some fake rocks to do that with. Try the gardening section at stores. If you can't find any look for those fake rocks with the cut out on the bottom to store a spare key.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/11 14:31:48
Subject: Re:Ice World Mat, what terrain to add?
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Ancient Venerable Dark Angels Dreadnought
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Just like any other setting, think about the theme you want to portray and build around that. You could do all sorts of themes on an ice world...
Abandoned Imperial base
Mining facility
Old alien site
etc
What armies do you typically run, as that can help with theme too.
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