Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
Times and dates in your local timezone.
Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now.
adamsouza wrote: As an American who watches a lot of foreign actors portray American characters I can tell you that they frequently dont slund like any regional American accent, but often sound cool because they put soo much thought into their pronunciation.
Rick, Maggie, and Morgan on the Walking Dead all sound intense when they speak but they don't sound like any regional accent.
Honestly, I think that its because outside of a few stereotypical spots, we don't really have true and honest "regional" dialects. . . For instance, the Brooklyn/Bronx accent that you see on TV may be common in those borroughs (I wouldn't know, never been myself), but a number of my friends are from outside The City (as they call it), with even a NY buddy of mine from the army being from Buffalo and none have anything remotely close to what you'd call an accent, much less one that resembles one as distinctive as the Bronx.
.
That's likely a function of your buddy being in the Army. My family is from Western New York, and my cousins, uncles, etc have an absurdly strong regional accent (very nasal and twangy, with some odd word choices- when repeating gossip, they say 'Bob says Sally went drinking last night' rather than 'Bob said Sally went drinking last night' without regard to past/present tense). My own parents were also military and left the area and lost it, thankfully. To me it's far more grating than the deep south accent (I've spent maybe 60 days in their hometown over the course of several decades, can't stand the place).
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: Also, if you’re going to pretend to American, remember your swearing is limited to Melon Farmer and Gruddamm.
That's... an actively bizarre thing to believe.
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/09/27 21:05:27
I never knew there was such a thing as a Philly accent, until I was in Los Angeles and someone asked if that's where I was from.. I was like "yeah, how did you know?"
Out here we have wooder instead of water, youse instead of y’all, and instead of going to the beach we go down the shore.
I live about an hour away from Boston, but when I travel out of state waitresses and hotel staff ask if I'm from Boston. The Boston isn't as cartoonish as it is frequently depicted in movies but it is real.
Stereotypically, a British person's lazy attempt at an "American accent" is to talk loudly and slowly, and slur the "t" sound into a "d". This is about as accurate as Frazzled attempting a Scottish accent by saying "och aye" and pronouncing the "ch" sound like a "k", and just as annoying, I expect. At best, it sounds like Joey from Friends after a stroke.
If you want to save time when it comes to sounding British, you can get away without Roger's Profanisaurus; any noun can be turned into a euphemism for being drunk by adding "ed" to the end; "lamp-posted", "carpeted", whatever; just say "I was absolutely ----ed last night", and sound smug about it and everyone will know what you mean. Likewise, any word can be an insult, it's in the tone of voice. "Trumpet" is a good Glaswegian one. Say it like it should be an insult, and it'll be one.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Frazzled wrote: Rick and Maggie sound like a Yankee's version of a Southerner.
Andrew Lincoln (Rick) actually sounds like this:
(He was also in Love, Actually; the one who was secretly in love with Keira Knightley.)
This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2018/09/28 08:19:46
IronWarLeg wrote: Oh, and the first time I heard Hugh Laurie talk in his normal accent I was passing through the living room and my wife was watching him do an interview on TV. I made it to the next room before it hit me that it was him talking and he wasn't being interviewed by some English person. I actually turned around and came back to confirm. I was blown away
Do yourself a favour, and find yourself a copy of the third series of Blackadder to watch...
adamsouza wrote: I live about an hour away from Boston, but when I travel out of state waitresses and hotel staff ask if I'm from Boston. The Boston isn't as cartoonish as it is frequently depicted in movies but it is real.
Reminds me of poker tv show Big Game where guy called Boston Bob and others were talking about the Boston accent. Can't pinpoint what it was but sure did sound weird for me.
But dialects are fun. Too bad there's not much material for them at least for Japanese so there I'm familiar mostly with what they speak at Shikoku where I'm starting to get some hang on it on understanding it(thanks for locals for not playing it safe and switch to standard japanese for my sake)
Yeah, recently was on a plane flight and watched 12 years a slave and Cumberbach's attempt at being southern was pretty jarring to say the least. He basically took his halfway decent Dr Strange accent and every few words he was like "gak, I'm supposed to drawl. I'll throw a little drawl in there. Awesome. That's great."
I've found accent in America is pretty distinctly linked to social class. Middle class or higher americans outside of the few regions where the accent is universal (deep south for example) tend to speak without any pronounced dialect. Id chalk a lot of that up to what another poster said about staying in one place - the poorer you are, the more you tend to stay where you're from and the more your accent develops. Southern drawling, new england consonant dropping, west coast phantom question marks, and midwest singsong are the most common regional accents you'll see among the general population. Similarly for minority populations, the poorer a person is, the more likely they are to have a pronounced dialect corresponding to their ethnicity, pretty much the same as anywhere but America tends to have extremely high concentrations of other ethnicities than the majority population compared to other parts of the world.
"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"
"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"
"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"
"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!"
adamsouza wrote: I live about an hour away from Boston, but when I travel out of state waitresses and hotel staff ask if I'm from Boston. The Boston isn't as cartoonish as it is frequently depicted in movies but it is real.
Disagree.
I live one town over from you, and I've never had anyone say that to me.
The stereotypical 'Boston Accent' actually only occurs naturally in a very, very small section of that city, so unless you're hamming it up for effect, who knows.
I do think some people play up the 'New England' aspect of ignoring the 'r' at the end of a word and adding in 'wicked pissah' too much (as in, at all).
Films like "The Equalizer" and its sequel (yes, "The Equalizer 2") are set in Boston and handle it quite well.
How?
By not trying to insert a largely nonexistent 'Boston Accent' into everything!
Stereotypically, a British person's lazy attempt at an "American accent" is to talk loudly and slowly, and slur the "t" sound into a "d". This is about as accurate as Frazzled attempting a Scottish accent by saying "och aye" and pronouncing the "ch" sound like a "k", and just as annoying, I expect. At best, it sounds like Joey from Friends after a stroke.
If you want to save time when it comes to sounding British, you can get away without Roger's Profanisaurus; any noun can be turned into a euphemism for being drunk by adding "ed" to the end; "lamp-posted", "carpeted", whatever; just say "I was absolutely ----ed last night", and sound smug about it and everyone will know what you mean. Likewise, any word can be an insult, it's in the tone of voice. "Trumpet" is a good Glaswegian one. Say it like it should be an insult, and it'll be one.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Frazzled wrote: Rick and Maggie sound like a Yankee's version of a Southerner.
Andrew Lincoln (Rick) actually sounds like this:
(He was also in Love, Actually; the one who was secretly in love with Keira Knightley.)
He'll always be Egg to me.
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
I will rarely pick up someone trying a generic American accent, but a bad Southern accent, or Appalachian, sets off my radar like nothing else. It's only when people get too fancy, or mix and match that it falls apart.
Same with me. I don't know how many times I was surprised to find out an actor was actually British.
As soon as a non southerner tries a southern accent however, I hear it the moment they open their mouth.
Ok so its not just accents though its also mannerisms. I paid attention to Holland playing Spiderman not only as Peter Parker but also as Spiderman, and I know a lot of this has to do with directing, but body language also plays a big part. I find the English tend to stand straight and proper while Americans tend to slack, doing a lot of leaning on one foot. At least that is my impression. Sort of like, semi-formal (UK) vs informal (USA).
I also hear we smile a lot more than most other places, and tend to be more friendly in just saying Hi to people we pass that we do not know. So I am sure all that plays a part in how we come across in order to mimic.
This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2018/09/28 13:15:29
Stereotypically, a British person's lazy attempt at an "American accent" is to talk loudly and slowly, and slur the "t" sound into a "d". This is about as accurate as Frazzled attempting a Scottish accent by saying "och aye" and pronouncing the "ch" sound like a "k", and just as annoying, I expect. At best, it sounds like Joey from Friends after a stroke.
If you want to save time when it comes to sounding British, you can get away without Roger's Profanisaurus; any noun can be turned into a euphemism for being drunk by adding "ed" to the end; "lamp-posted", "carpeted", whatever; just say "I was absolutely ----ed last night", and sound smug about it and everyone will know what you mean. Likewise, any word can be an insult, it's in the tone of voice. "Trumpet" is a good Glaswegian one. Say it like it should be an insult, and it'll be one.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Frazzled wrote: Rick and Maggie sound like a Yankee's version of a Southerner.
Andrew Lincoln (Rick) actually sounds like this:
(He was also in Love, Actually; the one who was secretly in love with Keira Knightley.)
He'll always be Egg to me.
you said Egg, like an Egg (just doubling down on late 90's references !)
although he does still go Eggy in Walking Dead, from time to time
"AND YET YOU ACT AS IF THERE IS SOME IDEAL ORDER IN THE WORLD, AS IF THERE IS SOME...SOME RIGHTNESS IN THE UNIVERSE BY WHICH IT MAY BE JUDGED."
IronWarLeg wrote: Oh, and the first time I heard Hugh Laurie talk in his normal accent I was passing through the living room and my wife was watching him do an interview on TV. I made it to the next room before it hit me that it was him talking and he wasn't being interviewed by some English person. I actually turned around and came back to confirm. I was blown away
Do yourself a favour, and find yourself a copy of the third series of Blackadder to watch...
Do yourself an even bigger favour, and get all of them. Some of the best comedy I've ever seen, and I usually don't enjoy mr. Atkinson very much
KTG17 wrote: Ok so its not just accents though its also mannerisms. I paid attention to Holland playing Spiderman not only as Peter Parker but also as Spiderman, and I know a lot of this has to do with directing, but body language also plays a big part. I find the English tend to stand straight and proper while Americans tend to slack, doing a lot of leaning on one foot. At least that is my impression. Sort of like, semi-formal (UK) vs informal (USA).
I also hear we smile a lot more than most other places, and tend to be more friendly in just saying Hi to people we pass that we do not know. So I am sure all that plays a part in how we come across in order to mimic.
That's because you're too young as a nation to have acquired the innate misanthropy of your motherland
KTG17 wrote: Ok so its not just accents though its also mannerisms. I paid attention to Holland playing Spiderman not only as Peter Parker but also as Spiderman, and I know a lot of this has to do with directing, but body language also plays a big part. I find the English tend to stand straight and proper while Americans tend to slack, doing a lot of leaning on one foot. At least that is my impression. Sort of like, semi-formal (UK) vs informal (USA).
I also hear we smile a lot more than most other places, and tend to be more friendly in just saying Hi to people we pass that we do not know. So I am sure all that plays a part in how we come across in order to mimic.
Americans smile annoyingly much. It really, really irks us Russians because in our culture, smiling at people is considered impolite. Russians rarely smile, because life is not funny.
KTG17 wrote: Ok so its not just accents though its also mannerisms. I paid attention to Holland playing Spiderman not only as Peter Parker but also as Spiderman, and I know a lot of this has to do with directing, but body language also plays a big part. I find the English tend to stand straight and proper while Americans tend to slack, doing a lot of leaning on one foot. At least that is my impression. Sort of like, semi-formal (UK) vs informal (USA).
I also hear we smile a lot more than most other places, and tend to be more friendly in just saying Hi to people we pass that we do not know. So I am sure all that plays a part in how we come across in order to mimic.
Americans smile annoyingly much. It really, really irks us Russians because in our culture, smiling at people is considered impolite. Russians rarely smile, because life is not funny.
Every time I see something filmed in Russia I get the feeling everyone is pissed about something. Like someone kicked their puppy that morning and they are fuming over it... It all makes sense now!
IronWarLeg wrote: Oh, and the first time I heard Hugh Laurie talk in his normal accent I was passing through the living room and my wife was watching him do an interview on TV. I made it to the next room before it hit me that it was him talking and he wasn't being interviewed by some English person. I actually turned around and came back to confirm. I was blown away
Do yourself a favour, and find yourself a copy of the third series of Blackadder to watch...
Do yourself an even bigger favour, and get all of them. Some of the best comedy I've ever seen, and I usually don't enjoy mr. Atkinson very much
I will rarely pick up someone trying a generic American accent, but a bad Southern accent, or Appalachian, sets off my radar like nothing else. It's only when people get too fancy, or mix and match that it falls apart.
Same with me. I don't know how many times I was surprised to find out an actor was actually British.
As soon as a non southerner tries a southern accent however, I hear it the moment they open their mouth.
Same, I find it hard to not hear someone as sounding condescending when they attempt to imitate a Southern accent, even if trying to do so genuinely.
This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2018/09/28 19:29:19
New Bedford = New Befid
Fall River = Fall Riva
Car = Ka
Park = Paak
Worcester = Woosta
Bubbler = Bubbla a.k.a a drinking fountain
Padanaram = Paintnarum
Dartmouth = Daatmith
Soda is a carbonated surgery beverage if you ask someone for a Pop, you are either asking them for a punch or bread. (papo seco is a Portuguese bread and it's often referred to as a "pop")
Wicked was an 80's thing, as in the 80's were wicked awesome.
"Park the Car in Havard Yard" Is a trap. It will be pronounced "Paak da Ka in Haavid Yaad" they will also be quick to remind you that there is, in fact, no parking in Harvard Yard.
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/09/28 23:09:55
KTG17 wrote: Ok so its not just accents though its also mannerisms. I paid attention to Holland playing Spiderman not only as Peter Parker but also as Spiderman, and I know a lot of this has to do with directing, but body language also plays a big part. I find the English tend to stand straight and proper while Americans tend to slack, doing a lot of leaning on one foot. At least that is my impression. Sort of like, semi-formal (UK) vs informal (USA).
I also hear we smile a lot more than most other places, and tend to be more friendly in just saying Hi to people we pass that we do not know. So I am sure all that plays a part in how we come across in order to mimic.
Americans smile annoyingly much. It really, really irks us Russians because in our culture, smiling at people is considered impolite. Russians rarely smile, because life is not funny.
KTG17 wrote: Ok so its not just accents though its also mannerisms. I paid attention to Holland playing Spiderman not only as Peter Parker but also as Spiderman, and I know a lot of this has to do with directing, but body language also plays a big part. I find the English tend to stand straight and proper while Americans tend to slack, doing a lot of leaning on one foot. At least that is my impression. Sort of like, semi-formal (UK) vs informal (USA).
I also hear we smile a lot more than most other places, and tend to be more friendly in just saying Hi to people we pass that we do not know. So I am sure all that plays a part in how we come across in order to mimic.
Americans smile annoyingly much. It really, really irks us Russians because in our culture, smiling at people is considered impolite. Russians rarely smile, because life is not funny.
I have a very happy life and I'm blessed that I travel widely and have many friends of different nationalities.
The one thing all my Canadian, U.S. American, Polish, Czech, French, German, Mexican, Guatemalan, Middle Eastern etc etc friends will agree on is Russians NEVER smile and you can find an American at the airport because he's wearing tight pulled up white socks and sandals......
This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2018/09/29 18:39:44
This is about as accurate as Frazzled attempting a Scottish accent by saying "och aye" and pronouncing the "
atrocious, really.
