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It could be that Order 66 is partially dependent on a Clone's perspective. Official or not, the 501st are far more likely to see Ahsoka as a Jedi than Barriss.

There’s also an arguable delineation.

Ahsoka left the Order, but was welcome to return.

Barriss was Denounced by the Order (if memory serves!) and so in nobody’s eyes except perhaps her own, was she still a Jedi.

In the comics a Jedi on the run got Clones to open fire on Vader and a couple Inquisitors by naming and identifying them as former Jedi then invoking Order 66.

 AduroT wrote:
In the comics a Jedi on the run got Clones to open fire on Vader and a couple Inquisitors by naming and identifying them as former Jedi then invoking Order 66.

The fiend!

Makes me wonder if that's an old comic or a new one. I got the impression that since at least Clone Wars season seven Order 66 is more nuanced than an irresistible imperative to kill Jedi on sight.

 Geifer wrote:


The fiend!

Makes me wonder if that's an old comic or a new one. I got the impression that since at least Clone Wars season seven Order 66 is more nuanced than an irresistible imperative to kill Jedi on sight.

You have that backwards. The 'irresistible imperative' was from Clone Wars. Before the last couple of seasons introduced the obedience chip, the clones gunning down the Jedi was just training and following the chain of command. So going after Vader just because he was once a Jedi wouldn't have made sense, pre - Clone Wars.

And in the old EU, very few people even knew Vader was Anakin. Seems to be fairly common knowledge in the new continuity.

Darth Jarjar is now -- cannon

Funny. Starting to think I should take some time to watch Lego Star Wars.

 insaniak wrote:

 Geifer wrote:


The fiend!

Makes me wonder if that's an old comic or a new one. I got the impression that since at least Clone Wars season seven Order 66 is more nuanced than an irresistible imperative to kill Jedi on sight.

You have that backwards. The 'irresistible imperative' was from Clone Wars. Before the last couple of seasons introduced the obedience chip, the clones gunning down the Jedi was just training and following the chain of command. So going after Vader just because he was once a Jedi wouldn't have made sense, pre - Clone Wars.

And in the old EU, very few people even knew Vader was Anakin. Seems to be fairly common knowledge in the new continuity.

I was thinking along the lines of Clone Wars season seven being post Disney takeover and new continuity while season six (the one with the malfunctioning clone) was still old continuity.

I'm basically unfamiliar with books and comics of the old EU and couldn't say how it was handled there.

Vader was also not a Jedi when Order 66 happened and the Clones also referred to Sidious as "My Lord" which is not what they would have called him when he was Supreme Chancellor.

I prefer the idea of the Inhibitor Chips in this sense because they are pre-programmed to know Palpatine is Sidious and that his apprentice was not to be counted among the Jedi, in this case Vader rather than Tyrannus or even potentially Maul.

 Geifer wrote:
I was thinking along the lines of Clone Wars season seven being post Disney takeover and new continuity while season six (the one with the malfunctioning clone) was still old continuity.

Clone Wars was always more tied to the continuity than the EU material was, and I strongly suspect that the last seasons were already mapped out before the Disney takeover. At the very least I vaguely recall mention of the outline being run past Lucas for his approval. So I don't think there was ever a change of direction, there.

The obedience chip wasn't a Disney addition, it was a necessary addition to deal with the fact that the cartoon had given the clones too much personality and free will. In their original guise, order 66 worked because of the clones' unthinking obedience... they were able to take down the Jedi because they just did what they were told to do before most Jedi were able to register them as a threat. But by the time we got a few seasons into the cartoon, it became increasingly unlikely that a lot of these clones would have willingly turned on their Jedi commanders. The 501st certainly wouldn't have. So the obedience chip, from the time it was introduced, was supposed to be the hook that allowed the clones to turn on the jedi even if they really, really didn't want to.

 Gert wrote:
Vader was also not a Jedi when Order 66 happened ...

That was never relayed to the Clones, on screen at least.

...and the Clones also referred to Sidious as "My Lord" which is not what they would have called him when he was Supreme Chancellor.

The Chancellor is referred to as 'My Lord'.

From Attack of the Clones -

A muted BUZZER SOUNDS. A hologram of an AIDE, DAR WAC, appears on the Chancellor's desk.

DAR WAC
The loyalist committee has arrived, my Lord.

PALPATINE
Send them in.

If you remember the original Battlefront II, the EU used to present the end of the Jedi Order as something the clones always knew was coming and kept to themselves, but in the old EU the clones in general were much more robotic/unemotive except for the clone commandos and the arc troopers who had more independence.

The Clone Wars tv series altered this buy giving the clones a lot more personality and making them likeable, and I guess the obedience chip was how they explained how the likeable clone soldiers we spent most of the series with ended up killing the likeable Jedi heroes we spent most of the series with.

Dug up the scene I mentioned. Don’t wanna dump eight pages in here so you can check em out at this link if you’re interested.

https://www.tumblr.com/adurot/750162035657080832/darth-vader-2017-issues-16-17

Getting a wee bit hype for The Acolyte now, as we’re a little under four weeks from launch.

Of particular interest is outside of Yoda, who we’ve not seen in the trailers, the time period means All New Characters.

I very much suspect it’ll touch on Palpatine’s overall line of succession in one way or another. But to have a lot of unexpected erm…expected? I’m excited.

Still wondering what happened to Skellington Crew though!