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Why is Perpetual Damon Prytanis so misanthropic? Is it because humanity just tries to destroy itself?

Because Marbo killed it.

Because some people are donkey-caves? thus some perpetuals are donkey-caves.

When you’ve lived through the golden age of humanity and seen what happens in the great crusade... I get it.

 Formosa wrote:
When you’ve lived through the golden age of humanity and seen what happens in the great crusade... I get it.

It was not the Great Crusade that made him misanthropic, it was humanity fighting against itself for so long. (and the Crusade wasn't so bad)

Yeah, even just looking at the crap humans have done to each other throughout history up to this point in 018M3, it's hard to retain any sort of faith in human goodness. But to have actually lived through all that, plus another few tens of thousands of years of the same? I imagine the Cabal's humanicidal plan starts to look pretty reasonable.

A better question would be "How the hell have some perpetuals managed not to become cynical, nihilistic misanthropes?"

 Duskweaver wrote:
Yeah, even just looking at the crap humans have done to each other throughout history up to this point in 018M3, it's hard to retain any sort of faith in human goodness. But to have actually lived through all that, plus another few tens of thousands of years of the same? I imagine the Cabal's humanicidal plan starts to look pretty reasonable.

A better question would be "How the hell have some perpetuals managed not to become cynical, nihilistic misanthropes?"

indeed, the entire history of human civilization is one great ideal after another being perverted by short sightedness and greed

Most people become increasingly cynical the more bad they experience personally or hear about second hand. Most people also only last at most what 120 years on the really rare side. A few 1000s years latter, It's actually remarkable that most of the perpetuals aren't insane.

Onething123456 wrote:
Why is Perpetual Damon Prytanis so misanthropic? Is it because humanity just tries to destroy itself?

Because he's had to deal with humans for more than a normal lifespan lol

 Duskweaver wrote:
Yeah, even just looking at the crap humans have done to each other throughout history up to this point in 018M3, it's hard to retain any sort of faith in human goodness. But to have actually lived through all that, plus another few tens of thousands of years of the same? I imagine the Cabal's humanicidal plan starts to look pretty reasonable.

A better question would be "How the hell have some perpetuals managed not to become cynical, nihilistic misanthropes?"

You are probably right.

He has also not only lived a long time, he died more than a few times before coming back. That has to be a very traumatic experience that can't be great for keeping a sunny view of the world.

HoundsofDemos wrote:
He has also not only lived a long time, he died more than a few times before coming back. That has to be a very traumatic experience that can't be great for keeping a sunny view of the world.

Makes me wonder what Perpetuals experience between death and rebirth?

agurus1 wrote:

HoundsofDemos wrote:
He has also not only lived a long time, he died more than a few times before coming back. That has to be a very traumatic experience that can't be great for keeping a sunny view of the world.

Makes me wonder what Perpetuals experience between death and rebirth?

Dodging warpsharks in the Empyrean while their soul is missing a physical tether, I guess.

nareik wrote:

agurus1 wrote:

HoundsofDemos wrote:
He has also not only lived a long time, he died more than a few times before coming back. That has to be a very traumatic experience that can't be great for keeping a sunny view of the world.

Makes me wonder what Perpetuals experience between death and rebirth?

Dodging warpsharks in the Empyrean while their soul is missing a physical tether, I guess.

Anything else? I was surprised at how misanthropic Perpetual Damon Prytanis. Late reply, but yeah.

Because he has nobody who really loves him, and he has nobody to really love. It is hard to always stay alive when everyone you care about dies after a short while.

Onething123456 wrote:

 Duskweaver wrote:
Yeah, even just looking at the crap humans have done to each other throughout history up to this point in 018M3, it's hard to retain any sort of faith in human goodness. But to have actually lived through all that, plus another few tens of thousands of years of the same? I imagine the Cabal's humanicidal plan starts to look pretty reasonable.

A better question would be "How the hell have some perpetuals managed not to become cynical, nihilistic misanthropes?"

You are probably right.

That would require one to look only at the negative sides of humanity though, and miss all of the positives. Sure, humans fight and destroy a lot, but they also rebuild every time. And for every greedy or cruel person there is a generous or kind person.

That certainly isn't evident. Especially in the setting, which tends more towards one cruel person for thousands of broken people

I empathize with Perpetual Damon Prytanis after reading all these Onething “1st Edition Rogue Trader” 123456 threads...

 Nostromodamus wrote:
I empathize with Perpetual Damon Prytanis after reading all these Onething “1st Edition Rogue Trader” 123456 threads...

Whatever.

That is the name of the edition.

Onething123456 wrote:

That is the name of the edition.

No, it isn't. It was just called 'Rogue Trader'. Or 'Warhammer 40000: Rogue Trader' if you wanted to be all formal.

Nobody called it '1st edition' before 2nd edition came along, and practically nobody called it that afterwards... most just kept calling it 'Rogue Trader', or 'RT' for short. I would very much doubt you would find it referred to anywhere as '1st Edition Rogue Trader', and nowhere in any of the RT-era books is it referred to as '1st edition', so far as I am aware.

Rogue trader sixth edition.

Rogue Trader: Animal house Edition!

Emperor puts Leman Russ under double secret probation for murdering two chapters (which is why they’re unknowns now), and Perpetually Old Person yells at all these young Space Marine kids to get off his lawn.



...that’s where we’re going with this stuff now, right?

Voss wrote:
That certainly isn't evident. Especially in the setting, which tends more towards one cruel person for thousands of broken people

That is only because nice, kind and generous people aren't fun to write about. Why bother writing about the loving family life of some family in Hab-unit 549B of Hab-sector 12 on level 339 of Hive Anymosus and how a local priest is now helping the family through a rough spot after the father lost his position in Manufactorum 895A after he injured his arm in a workplace accident? No, it is way more fun to write about the cruel Manufactorum overseers and the uncaring overlords of the Hive. It is not just 40k, it is true in every fictional setting, and even in the real world if you read newspapers. Evil acts and people just tend to stick out more than good acts and people. For some reason people just really enjoy hearing and reading about bad stuff.


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 timetowaste85 wrote:
Rogue Trader: Animal house Edition!

Emperor puts Leman Russ under double secret probation for murdering two chapters (which is why they’re unknowns now), and Perpetually Old Person yells at all these young Space Marine kids to get off his lawn.



...that’s where we’re going with this stuff now, right?

Rogue Trader 2: Electric Boogaloo
Illiyan Nastase is elected as the next Emperor of Mankind while the forces of Chaos discover that mutated Ork hair squiqs make for even more impressive mohawks.

I fairness given the new rogue trader box set, and the RPG I find it's useful to avoid confusion

Horus was a ghost, he's been dead the entire time. Then, when Rowboat finally makes headway in the galaxy, Horus the White will return and the big reveal will be that Horus was a good guy the whole time, and this was all just a plot to sell us all a new space marine army composed of primaris marines. Then they'll defeat Sauron with Harry Potter and Captain Marvel, and the universe will live happily ever after.