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 Togusa wrote:
In regards to the GSC codex, wasn't it leaked that the team tried to destroy the codex because several rules writers didn't like the army, and they had to restart the whole thing over again?

That sounds like utter conspiracy theory nonsense.

ahhh....just say SQUATS....and stop your complaining.

There are far more squats in the galaxy than genestealers......EVEN if you factor in the lame tyranid eating up the hundreds of Homeworlds.

Why.

More Squats than Ratlings....that is in the most recent book if Irc. So if there are millions of ratlings...well....figure it out.

Many Squat worlds were located in the Imperium and thus under the protection of the vast Imperial forces....so they are still around.

Many Squats words were in the eye of terror....thus many chaos squats exist.

Squat Pirates are as successful as other pirates spread all thru the galaxy.

The GSC list used to be a sub army in the back of the Tyranid codex....and should have never left....Same with Harlequins.....should still be in the back of the Eldar codexs.

I am sure many other 'armies' need to fall into the back pages as well.

Thankfully allies are a thing, so such minifactions can exist. They're complete enough that they're playable on their own in a casual setting, and you can supplement them with or as allies for more competitive needs.

Whilst I wouldn't be holding my breath for the return of the Squats, the current ally system would make their return easier. They could be an allyable minifaction.

The rumour was that they were planned for a much earlier release in line with the Space Wolves codex but during play testing they found them to be far too overpowered so the delay was to better work the rules.

 admironheart wrote:
ahhh....just say SQUATS....and stop your complaining.

There are far more squats in the galaxy than genestealers......EVEN if you factor in the lame tyranid eating up the hundreds of Homeworlds.

Why.

More Squats than Ratlings....that is in the most recent book if Irc. So if there are millions of ratlings...well....figure it out.

Many Squat worlds were located in the Imperium and thus under the protection of the vast Imperial forces....so they are still around.

Many Squats words were in the eye of terror....thus many chaos squats exist.

Squat Pirates are as successful as other pirates spread all thru the galaxy.

The GSC list used to be a sub army in the back of the Tyranid codex....and should have never left....Same with Harlequins.....should still be in the back of the Eldar codexs.

I am sure many other 'armies' need to fall into the back pages as well.

Squats were gotten Rid of because Gw knew they messed up with them. Even their name was a mistake. The Demiurgs are a much more fitting name, they need to expand on them.

And on GSC, they'll get their dex. Some factions won't get squat, I don't see the issue.

To try and get this topic back on track, from the various GW posts and rumors, I got the impression the GSC codex was delayed for 2 reasons:

1. Playtesting an earlier build revealed them to be hilariously OP, delaying them past the tooth and claw box set.

2. The changes to several armies infiltrate strategies (AL, RG, etc) - 1 to hit being nerfed and deep strike only on turn 2+ meant another delay to avoid the army getting nuked.

Obviously they were going down a path with them, mechanics wise, and realized how that would make for an unfun play experience. They had to go back to square one (see how the FAQ have really shut down their early game tricks as evidence.)
Honestly, I’m glad that GW is taking its time. GSC and the game as a whole will be so much better for it!

 admironheart wrote:
ahhh....just say SQUATS....and stop your complaining.

There are far more squats in the galaxy than genestealers......EVEN if you factor in the lame tyranid eating up the hundreds of Homeworlds.

Why.

More Squats than Ratlings....that is in the most recent book if Irc. So if there are millions of ratlings...well....figure it out.

Many Squat worlds were located in the Imperium and thus under the protection of the vast Imperial forces....so they are still around.

Many Squats words were in the eye of terror....thus many chaos squats exist.

Squat Pirates are as successful as other pirates spread all thru the galaxy.

The GSC list used to be a sub army in the back of the Tyranid codex....and should have never left....Same with Harlequins.....should still be in the back of the Eldar codexs.

I am sure many other 'armies' need to fall into the back pages as well.

This is the most "get off my lawn" post I have seen on dakka in a long time. You give me such nostalgia sir.


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TBH, I'm fine with a delayed GSC codex if we can just get something that doesn't play as a glorified one trick pony "just deep strike turn 1 and hope it cripples the opposing army". That rules deisgn is just garbage.

Non-ambush GSC need to be usable for them to be anything other than a stupid turn 1 charge gimmick.

 dracpanzer wrote:
Things are looking up for GSC.

Having my old 2nd ed Nid codex and some cult figures, I'm just happy they exist again. I'm hoping a pre-feb release because I have a league starting then and it'd be real nice not to have to hurriedly throw more crap together because points costs became more reasonable.

 Cephalobeard wrote:
It's also not related to this thread.

Stop the endless whining.

And that day, Dakka went silent. Aside from some news posts and people actually enjoying the hobby.

 Dr. Mills wrote:


1. Playtesting an earlier build revealed them to be hilariously OP, delaying them past the tooth and claw box set.

This is the reason

Well if they want to do the GSC thing right.....they should put their main nemesis in play in the same dex.

That is right bring back the Adeptus Arbites list.

I think there were 3 or 4 Arbites lists back in 2nd ed.

Those are the front line troops that fight and lose to GSC or decimate the xenos.

Happy now? - https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/01/05/breaking-news-new-models-new-expansions-and-exclusive-revealsgw-homepage-post-1/

Yea poor cults. Had to wait a bit for "only" 9 new units for thier codex.

Not that it's more than some codcies has at all or something...

beast_gts wrote:
Happy now? - https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/01/05/breaking-news-new-models-new-expansions-and-exclusive-revealsgw-homepage-post-1/

Happy about what, seeing the same gak we've been seeing since the middle of 2018 and being told yet again "eventually you're going to get your codex." I don't know if you know this, but seeing screenshots of units, again, like we have been for months isn't a codex, it's not even a pre-order of a codex.

Danny slag wrote:

beast_gts wrote:
Happy now? - https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/01/05/breaking-news-new-models-new-expansions-and-exclusive-revealsgw-homepage-post-1/

Happy about what, seeing the same gak we've been seeing since the middle of 2018 and being told yet again "eventually you're going to get your codex." I don't know if you know this, but seeing screenshots of units, again, like we have been for months isn't a codex, it's not even a pre-order of a codex.

Oh come on. 4 new units! On top of the bikes we saw last month and the Genestealer Gunslinger in Kill Team (which will hopefully have 40k rules).

Convinced this is just trolling at this point. It's a very exciting time to be into GSCs.

 BoomWolf wrote:
Yea poor cults. Had to wait a bit for "only" 9 new units for thier codex.

Not that it's more than some codcies has at all or something...

What a great, "but what about" argument. Well how can you complain about your army being shafted and unplayable the majority of the time since it's been released when there are kids starving in africa.


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 Stux wrote:

Danny slag wrote:

beast_gts wrote:
Happy now? - https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/01/05/breaking-news-new-models-new-expansions-and-exclusive-revealsgw-homepage-post-1/

Happy about what, seeing the same gak we've been seeing since the middle of 2018 and being told yet again "eventually you're going to get your codex." I don't know if you know this, but seeing screenshots of units, again, like we have been for months isn't a codex, it's not even a pre-order of a codex.

Oh come on. 4 new units! On top of the bikes we saw last month and the Genestealer Gunslinger in Kill Team (which will hopefully have 40k rules).

Convinced this is just trolling at this point. It's a very exciting time to be into GSCs.

I'll be excited when GW finishes the fething rules for an army i bought almost 2 years ago and has been unplayably broken for the vast majority of that time. Seriously, 2 years ago they started the army release then just shoved it to the side before finishing it. Sorry but i can't play 40k with screenshots of miniatures.

I guess you're not aware that Nick Rose is in the ITC's 10 top ten using GSC?

Danny slag wrote:

beast_gts wrote:
Happy now? - https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/01/05/breaking-news-new-models-new-expansions-and-exclusive-revealsgw-homepage-post-1/

Happy about what, seeing the same gak we've been seeing since the middle of 2018 and being told yet again "eventually you're going to get your codex." I don't know if you know this, but seeing screenshots of units, again, like we have been for months isn't a codex, it's not even a pre-order of a codex.

Have you read the Sisters Beta Dex which is not as good as our Index army and actually removes options and playstyles.

We are still waiting for our models - the swathe of GSC models coming out - fantastic characters, new unit types and even terrain looks brilliant.

We go Chapter tactics (half ot which are poor) a couple of strats and relics - nothing in the new campaign book unlike say GSC. It was only the in the latest Warhammer Community post about this years models that we the fething "Emperor Willing" for us to get plastic models at all in 2019 seems to have been dropped.

Sadly as the scedule is always cloged up with endless Marine releases its not going to get better but it does look like GSC are getting a really good release.

welcome to the index better then codex club. I think people mind the marines updates a little less, if the updates actually changed stuff more often. Most of the meta shifts seem to come as a suprise to GW or end up unintended. Primaris Hqs come out, great if your someone who likes to paint them. But what was the impact of Primaris Lts, Librarians or the Chaplain on the game? IMO close to zero, but those models did take up a month slot of w40k stuff coming out. It is maybe even a little sad. Someone plays marines, his army is bad, because his army isn't scouts+Hqs, if they get vocal about it, everyone has the counter argument of bi monthly updates and a bucket load of new minis. No one can say that SoB got a lot of attention from GW.

Danny slag wrote:

I'll be excited when GW finishes the fething rules for an army i bought almost 2 years ago and has been unplayably broken for the vast majority of that time. Seriously, 2 years ago they started the army release then just shoved it to the side before finishing it. Sorry but i can't play 40k with screenshots of miniatures.

The army has rules! Sure it's index, but they're there.

"Unplayably broken" what a joke! They're seeing play in the top level of tournaments.

Danny slag wrote:

beast_gts wrote:
Happy now? - https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/01/05/breaking-news-new-models-new-expansions-and-exclusive-revealsgw-homepage-post-1/

Happy about what, seeing the same gak we've been seeing since the middle of 2018 and being told yet again "eventually you're going to get your codex." I don't know if you know this, but seeing screenshots of units, again, like we have been for months isn't a codex, it's not even a pre-order of a codex.

Ambulls man, focus on the Ambulls!

Wow, you’re never going to be happy. I’m pretty sure this is the biggest 40 model release since primaris marines. I get if gw had released the codex a couple of months ago you’d be complaining that the codex doesn’t have datasheets for the new models

Danny slag wrote:

beast_gts wrote:
Happy now? - https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/01/05/breaking-news-new-models-new-expansions-and-exclusive-revealsgw-homepage-post-1/

Happy about what, seeing the same gak we've been seeing since the middle of 2018 and being told yet again "eventually you're going to get your codex." I don't know if you know this, but seeing screenshots of units, again, like we have been for months isn't a codex, it's not even a pre-order of a codex.

Honestly getting your codex latter in an edition is usually a blessing. The first few out of the gate of any edition tend not to age well. Second it's not even two years, GW has released at an unprecedented pace. try to remember a few years ago when armies could wait a decade for a new book. Third, your getting a ton of new units.

Danny, GW will never release the codex, and these pictures of models are just to string you along. They are not gonna release these models either, they instead just throw them in the trash bin. You better sell all you models now and give up, it is the only sensible thing to do.

HoundsofDemos wrote:

Danny slag wrote:

beast_gts wrote:
Happy now? - https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/01/05/breaking-news-new-models-new-expansions-and-exclusive-revealsgw-homepage-post-1/

Happy about what, seeing the same gak we've been seeing since the middle of 2018 and being told yet again "eventually you're going to get your codex." I don't know if you know this, but seeing screenshots of units, again, like we have been for months isn't a codex, it's not even a pre-order of a codex.

Honestly getting your codex latter in an edition is usually a blessing. The first few out of the gate of any edition tend not to age well. Second it's not even two years, GW has released at an unprecedented pace. try to remember a few years ago when armies could wait a decade for a new book. Third, your getting a ton of new units.

Well, characters. And new ones, that aren't the same ones we've been seeing since mid 2018.

Still, its blatantly obvious that its coming, and probably at the end of the month or beginning of next.

Nothing happened, all is proceeding as expected. Someone had to be at the end of get-every-codex-out cycle, and frankly it's a better place to be.

Voss wrote:

HoundsofDemos wrote:

Danny slag wrote:

beast_gts wrote:
Happy now? - https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/01/05/breaking-news-new-models-new-expansions-and-exclusive-revealsgw-homepage-post-1/

Happy about what, seeing the same gak we've been seeing since the middle of 2018 and being told yet again "eventually you're going to get your codex." I don't know if you know this, but seeing screenshots of units, again, like we have been for months isn't a codex, it's not even a pre-order of a codex.

Honestly getting your codex latter in an edition is usually a blessing. The first few out of the gate of any edition tend not to age well. Second it's not even two years, GW has released at an unprecedented pace. try to remember a few years ago when armies could wait a decade for a new book. Third, your getting a ton of new units.

Well, characters. And new ones, that aren't the same ones we've been seeing since mid 2018.

Still, its blatantly obvious that its coming, and probably at the end of the month or beginning of next.

Nothing happened, all is proceeding as expected. Someone had to be at the end of get-every-codex-out cycle, and frankly it's a better place to be.

And while GSC are towards the end of the cycle, they're still not at the end of the cycle. For existing forces, that's probably SoB, unless we get an Imperial Agents book to tidy up the remaining datasheets from Index Imperium 2.

Watch the last few seconds of the teaser video and the dex, cards and dice are shown with 'early 2019' as a release date. Given there's a teaser video I'd expect imminent, within a few weeks certainly. Rumour is end of January.

Ha. So much for everyone saying that it was coming soon. They've now announced yet another campaign supplement to be released first. So now it's minimum end of February. Which it probably still won't be because it's been "weeks away" for 6 months. How does it feel to eat your words? See what I've been saying, they're constantly delaying and skipping it for gak that shouldn't be worked on until after every army is actually playable.


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Voss wrote:

HoundsofDemos wrote:

Danny slag wrote:

beast_gts wrote:
Happy now? - https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/01/05/breaking-news-new-models-new-expansions-and-exclusive-revealsgw-homepage-post-1/

Happy about what, seeing the same gak we've been seeing since the middle of 2018 and being told yet again "eventually you're going to get your codex." I don't know if you know this, but seeing screenshots of units, again, like we have been for months isn't a codex, it's not even a pre-order of a codex.

Honestly getting your codex latter in an edition is usually a blessing. The first few out of the gate of any edition tend not to age well. Second it's not even two years, GW has released at an unprecedented pace. try to remember a few years ago when armies could wait a decade for a new book. Third, your getting a ton of new units.

Well, characters. And new ones, that aren't the same ones we've been seeing since mid 2018.

Still, its blatantly obvious that its coming, and probably at the end of the month or beginning of next.

Nothing happened, all is proceeding as expected. Someone had to be at the end of get-every-codex-out cycle, and frankly it's a better place to be.

People on dakka really struggle with reading comprehension don't you? How many times have you all regurgitated "someone had to be last." When that's never been what I said. My problem isn't being last, it's being given the middle finger while supplements are released instead of finishing the last codex. They did every other codex, every one, except GSC before doing supplements. Then they just kinda fethed off and started doing other things before fixing my army that their chapter approved broke. Not one, but not two campaign books.

You don't know that the campaign books delayed the codex. It could even still come out in Jan, you're just jumping to conclusions.

For all we know the codex has been waiting on the new model kits to be ready

Danny, seriously, calm yourself.