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 AegisGrimm wrote:
I bought into the game with the Damocles demo set, and have about 3,000+AP each of Therians, Red Blok, UNA, and Karmans. Avoided the Cogs and Oni as they were hideously unbalanced with a capitol 'WTF'.

I think both it and the Confrontation system are really fun games, doubly so because of the shared core rules. The Universal Table of Resolution is a thing of simple genious.

I have an ongoing project where I am using the PDF for the unreleased Goblin army in the Aarklash universe with Skaven, making them literally "The army of the Rat", as lots of Skaven actually have a pseudo-samurai feel if you paint them right, with Warhammer Ogres as their Dai-Bakemono allies, including a Leadbelcher with some clanrat crew as a counts-as for their Mountainbreaker artillery piece.

I also have 2-3,000ap of Griffon, Dirz, and Wolfen. Thanks to the FFG fire sales, I have at least one of everything for each of the C:AoR and AT-43 armies I own.


I did pretty much the same, except that I want easy on the monkeys leaving gaps for two army box sets which were never released.4
I wanted to collect ONI because they had a great style to them, but never got around to it in time. Agree on the balance problems, for ONI you could self police it away, but Cogs were inhernetly broken. Red Blok was also inherently weak. Balance was all over the place.

My Confrontation armies gre at the same time and are also big. I have some of everything that was released for Age of Ragnarok, plus one or two metals. Got a large army of Griffon, Dirz and Wolfen and a passably large army of Lion and Ram with heavy character contingents. I got mind from Ludik Bazaar and Miniatures Market all in the window of heavy discounts..

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SoCal

Since this is the thread to do it, what did you fans like best about AT-43?

I definitely liked the rules, but the later factions kept my group away. I think the generic space apes did it in.

   
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Adrift within the vortex of my imagination.

Easy. NATO vs Warsaw Pact in space with mechs.

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 Sacredroach wrote:
I love AT-43. My buddy and I have every army (well, he has about 12,000 points of Red Blok and I have at least 5000 points of each other army, probably more). We have been trying to get a game in for a few years, but with us being family men and management, time is a premium.

I would love to see a rebirth of AT-43, but I fear that ship has sailed, gotten marooned on breakers, and now is a fish habitat.

Also, the PPP Confrontation stuff was amazing. I have too many Lion cavalry to be useful and more wolfen that anyone has a reason to own. But I think a lot of us have too many wolfen...


No such thing as too many lion cavalry or wolfen I have been able to get several games of both AT-43 and PPP Conf here of late


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 Vertrucio wrote:
Since this is the thread to do it, what did you fans like best about AT-43?

I definitely liked the rules, but the later factions kept my group away. I think the generic space apes did it in.


I love the setting. The rules are really good, ONI and the COGS only bother us because they are impossible to get enough of the right stuff to play the game with them now that its OOP.

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The setting was what did it for me. Having said that, I found the rules nice and elegant; putting everything into range bands, and measuring all range and LOS to/from unit leaders rather than individual troopers worked well

Still got a box of Therians lurking somewhere. Can't remember what's in there offhand - mostly the early releases (I think I split two copies of the starter box with my mate who wanted UNA).

I wanted to like Confrontation: Age of Rag'Narok, but it didn't work quite as well as AT-43 for a few reasons. Firstly the choice of unit profiles in the starter set - everything hit on a 4+ and wounded on a 4+; I'd have preferred a bit of variety there. Secondly, the prepaints didn't seem to be of the same quality as those in AT-43. I don't know if that was down to the more complicated patterns required for the Conf minis, or if it was cost-cutting (later AT-43 units like the Cogs seemed to be lower quality too). The major problem was the release schedule, though. A pity, as I'd still like to get some Griffin templar cavalry. I managed to get the command set, but the basic riders were perpetually unavailable.

Has anyone had any experience repainting those prepaints?
   
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Cool setting, nice miniatures, and I echo the sentiment regarding elegant rules.

[Am currently using my Therians as proxies for Ad Mech while my official minis are being constructed.

On official-sized GW bases am currently fielding: Dominus (Golem Alpha), 2 engineseers (squid-things w/ arms), 2 datasmiths (squid-things w/out arms), 3 full Vanguard (Storm Golem), 2 full Ranger (Assault Golem), 2 minimum Kastellan Destroyer units (Hekats w/ spare vehicle sonic wpns as Phosphor Cannons, other Hekats as the admittedly less-useful punch-bots), Grim Golems as Ruststalkers, Wraith Golgoths as Neutron Onagers and Eradication Beam Onagers.

Sinister Dark-Mechanicum vibe from the Therians, no complaints from opponents.]


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I had no issues applying any paint (for squad-markings) on the pre-painted minis.

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West Michigan, deep in Whitebread, USA

-I liked the setting for both games.

-Shooting range being in bands where the further away the target is it's harder to hit. So simple, but so seldom seen. Also cover was simp!y and effectively done.

-The Universal Table of Resolution was genious in an era of games lime 40k being stuck with lots of tables to refer to.

The only sucky part was the incorrect way that AoE and scatter was figured in AT43, even though it was retroactively fixed after Age of Ragnorok came out.



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Central Valley, California

We play a large 4 player battle of AT-43 once a year around my birthday, for old times sake. I hope we do for years to come.

~ Shrap

Rolling 1's for five decades.
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 Shrapnelsmile wrote:
We play a large 4 player battle of AT-43 once a year around my birthday, for old times sake. I hope we do for years to come.


that sounds awesome as heck
   
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West Michigan, deep in Whitebread, USA

Heck yeah it does!

I know I will never get rid of my armies for either game, and am actually finally in full-thrust for another Age of Ragnorok army. I hope in a few years one or the other of my kids will want to play AT-43 or Age of Ragnorok with me. I have no time (or inclination, frankly) for painting more than skirmish-level warbands anymore, so both games are likely the only way I will be playing army-scale games.

Which, frankly is ok, as both games are quite a bit of fun to play at that level (a couple of wonky/overpowered rules have to be tweaked in both games' cases), and because I am lucky enough to have 4 pretty large armies stored away for each system, I ought to get some good mileage out of them.... once I can actually get them on the table again, lol.

Someday it would be nice to buy my buddies Ram off of him.

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Baltimore, MD

Well, here I was taking a trip down memory lane and I see this forum topic...

Glad to see some of you are still out there! My armies (thousands of points Therian, RB, UNA, Kharmans and Cogs) slumber away in boxes just waiting for the they I find some other player... But that is a beautiful dream at this point.

The setting, the rules (most of them) and the prepainted nature of the game is what made it so attractive to me, if only Rackham hadn't shot itself in the foot managing the line who knows what we could have had?

I'm just real tired of W40k's dominion and relished the breath of fresh air.
   
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I would love to be in Baltimore to play you but I am a north eastern Indiana boy (spent a LOT of my life in Baldwin MI though too )
   
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 thekingofkings wrote:
I would love to be in Baltimore to play you but I am a north eastern Indiana boy (spent a LOT of my life in Baldwin MI though too )


just my luck!
well, I'm always up for a game if you're ever in the area again!
   
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Sweden

I still have my AT-43 stuff on my shelves. I have a silly large COGS force, a not realy equally large UNA force, a sizable Therian force, a small Karman force and some few ONI figures I sniped just before Rackham was liquidated.

Still mourn the death of the line, as well as C:AoR (I own alot of the big factions there too! )
   
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 Sikil wrote:
I still have my AT-43 stuff on my shelves. I have a silly large COGS force, a not realy equally large UNA force, a sizable Therian force, a small Karman force and some few ONI figures I sniped just before Rackham was liquidated.

Still mourn the death of the line, as well as C:AoR (I own alot of the big factions there too! )


Big fan of C:AoR as well Rams and Lions were always a pain to get stuff for though
   
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Australia

Well this is a total fluke that I found this thread!

I have heaps of AT-43 UNA, Therians and Red Blok (i have images somewhere...).

I think it was the art style and the mini design that mostly drew me into it, but I am a fan of both the alternating activation and the weapons accuracy mechanic
Outside of the introduction box though I never really got many games in, and I started buying most of my collection when they were going bust because I really wanted the minis!!!

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yeah not a lot of us left really, its sad cause it is such a great game.
   
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Central Valley, California

Our AT-43 / Warhammer table in my game room.

Hirst Arts, Hand designed and painted by a friend. Modular.

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~ Shrap

Rolling 1's for five decades.
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That would look awesome covered in Therians
   
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Central Valley, California

 thekingofkings wrote:
That would look awesome covered in Therians


it does! That's my preferred army. I'll get some more pics up when possible.

~ Shrap

Rolling 1's for five decades.
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Central Coast, California

So, I was looking for a Star Wars: Legion thread and found this AT-43 one...as I used to play AT-43, but sold it all to someone in Europe about a year after Rackham went under...but kept all the containers and barricades!

For those of you that loved the game mechanics of AT-43, but cant get anyone to play the 'dead' game with you... I suggest checking out Star Wars: Legion...It's got some very similar rules, and just reminds me a lot of the experience I had playing AT-43.

Anyhow, that's my contribution. Happy gaming!



   
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From the depths I summon this thread, if only to say that I finally found a pair of Succubus Golgoths on sale.

Damned expensive, but now I have at least 2 of every Therian unit (characters aside). I am content.

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West Michigan, deep in Whitebread, USA

Cool! There's still a few models I search for from time to time.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
From the depths I summon this thread, if only to say that I finally found a pair of Succubus Golgoths on sale.

Damned expensive, but now I have at least 2 of every Therian unit (characters aside). I am content.


Well done, I generally look for gaps, now that i scored a ONI army NIB I am still looking for some COGS
   
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West Michigan, deep in Whitebread, USA

I never ended up getting COGs or ONI when they came out as they seemed of a completely different power level, design-wise. Therians are bad enough for their notorious "free" striders that can be brought in, but Cogs can also do that plus they have insane amounts of re-rolls.



"By this point I'm convinced 100% that every single race in the 40k universe have somehow tapped into the ork ability to just have their tech work because they think it should."  
   
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Central Valley, California

Our once a year / game, October 2018.

It is hard for all of us to get together, as some in this group live out of town.



But our annual gathering is always a blast. 4 Player team throw down here.
A system is only dead if you no longer give it your time. We have made some house rules, and enjoy AT-43 still (although it is more exciting, practical, affordable and fun to play, "active" supported games, I understand).

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~ Shrap

Rolling 1's for five decades.
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West Michigan, deep in Whitebread, USA

Luckily I have enough of each of the main 4 forces that a game usually only uses 1/3 those forces at a time, so I can change things up from game to game, either with force composition, or another faction entirely.

I just wish I could play both AT43 and C:AoR more often.

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Central Valley, California

 AegisGrimm wrote:
I never ended up getting COGs or ONI when they came out as they seemed of a completely different power level, design-wise. Therians are bad enough for their notorious "free" striders that can be brought in, but Cogs can also do that plus they have insane amounts of re-rolls.


COGS were absolutely no fun to play against, and somewhat ruined experiences in our local scene back then.
Thankfully my group doesn't touch them.

~ Shrap

Rolling 1's for five decades.
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West Michigan, deep in Whitebread, USA

One of the house rule balances I seems to remember to take their "reroll" number, and instead of having that many complete rerolls (which is completely insane), you only reroll that many dice TOTAL. It makes them a bit more bearable, but still on a rather different power level than the original 4 factions.

The original four were nicely balanced, and then the rerolls of the Cogs and the Zombie spawning of the ONI just threw everything out the window.

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The Succubus Golgoths arrived!

One was perfect condition, the other was snapped off its base and one of its claws was broken off... hmm...

Shouldn't be too hard to fix, and really given how rare they are I can't say I'm too unhappy.

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