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Hmm that's true, wow, maybe this update for chaos is even bigger than we thought...

 Hanskrampf wrote:
Could also just be an alternative spike piece for a more shooty version, instead of another new model.

Entirely possible! Just thought it was worth mentioning that it wouldn't be the back of the Venomspawn.

I'm not convinced yet that it's not for a Venomspawn. The spikes at the bottom and other bits still look like the ones on the far back of the tick. I think it'll just be an alternate spike build.

Kinda looks like an oversized Magma cutter

That's exactly Heldrake baleflamer

Yeah, I think it’s just a different spike rack on the back of the tick.

Unfortunately, the Baleflamer now isn't too amazing

Heavy flamers on the Hellbrute have the same nozzles and igniters.

SO: we know it is somekind of flameweapon:

Or suspect it is a flameweapon of some kind.

I'm actually getting mildly excited about this release.

It's been years since GW have actually released something I wanted rather than taking the things I like away.

Seems like this release might be bigger than expected.

Well, here's hoping Chaos finally gets the update they deserve.

I will remain cautiously optimistic for the time being.

If you look at the bottom left corner of the weapon, it actually looks like it has a handle and trigger mechanism, implying it's a crew fired pintle weapon of some sort. That wouldn't be the tick. The caption also calls it a DELIBERATELY AMBIGUOUS IMAGE. I think we're meant to think it's the tick but its actually some sort of vehicle we haven't seen yet.

You can even see a talon wrapped around the handle too

pgmason wrote:
If you look at the bottom left corner of the weapon, it actually looks like it has a handle and trigger mechanism, implying it's a crew fired pintle weapon of some sort. That wouldn't be the tick. The caption also calls it a DELIBERATELY AMBIGUOUS IMAGE. I think we're meant to think it's the tick but its actually some sort of vehicle we haven't seen yet.

The more I look at it the more it appears that it is on top of the tick as it does have shorter spikes toward the back.

You could very well be correct that it's some misdirection, because it is mounted very oddly.

 fraser1191 wrote:
You can even see a talon wrapped around the handle too

Ridden tick, like a spiky Krootox?

That would be cool.

 Geifer wrote:

 fraser1191 wrote:
You can even see a talon wrapped around the handle too

Ridden tick, like a spiky Krootox?

That would be cool.

Not 100% convinced that's a talon/hand holding the handle, however it is pretty clear that it IS a handle with a trigger. Meaning something is mean to be manning (daemoning?) that gun.
This is certainly shaping up to be a must-buy for CSM players

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yeah I'm of the opinion this is a complete chaos undivided relaunch. I bet we're gonna see the entire line re-released.or pretty clsoe to it. Bezerkers and noise marines won't get new kits with this release, as I think GW'll save them for a Khorne and slaaanish release

BrianDavion wrote:
yeah I'm of the opinion this is a complete chaos undivided relaunch. I bet we're gonna see the entire line re-released.or pretty clsoe to it. Bezerkers and noise marines won't get new kits with this release, as I think GW'll save them for a Khorne and slaaanish release

If the chaos marines are re-scaled slightly as assumed, then surely that'll impact the noise marine conversion bits fitting well?

I don't disagree but I just think there will be unintended impacts on some other units such as noise marines, possibly havocs if they're not in the "first wave"

I think it's most likely that if the units coming here are rescaled/larger they'll have modified the attachement points in such a way that bits of the old kits don't fit without some degree of conversion,

so if you do want to make mixed chaos marines with arms that are too short/long you can but it will be a little bit more work, but it's not going to be the straightforward way the current sets are

But a lot of stuff is pointing towards havocs being done this time round.
I would imagine they’d thought of that.

Noise marines: do thy come in a box with the csm sprue. If so that’d just stay as an option.

If noise marines are just an upgrade sprue,, We all know more won’t be too far off, so I wouldn’t be surprised if they were just gone until their new release

Also keep in mind that even Primaris marines have interchangeable shoulder pads with regular Marines. The DW upgrade sprue is proof of this.
So even is Chaos Marines are rescaled, I'm sure weapons options/shoulder pads/heads will still be compatible.
It'll probably just be their legs/height that is rescaled

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If a slight rescale is coming it will probably focus on the legs and torso, that's what Jes also did with the Primaris.

 BrookM wrote:
If a slight rescale is coming it will probably focus on the legs and torso, that's what Jes also did with the Primaris.

It's not 'if', these will be same size than the BSF chaos marines.

These pictures don't always show parts fully attached to models, so maybe this is a replacement sponson for the tick tank.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
These pictures don't always show parts fully attached to models, so maybe this is a replacement sponson for the tick tank.

If I had to guess, the tick is going to be about the size of the myphitic blight hauler. So I don't see it having pintle weapons or being a tank.

Any takers on that new video showing the Vanguard dude with the little autocannon type gun?

BrianDavion wrote:
yeah I'm of the opinion this is a complete chaos undivided relaunch. I bet we're gonna see the entire line re-released.or pretty clsoe to it. Bezerkers and noise marines won't get new kits with this release, as I think GW'll save them for a Khorne and slaaanish release

Here is the kicker, will that include a decent codex?

 BrotherGecko wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
These pictures don't always show parts fully attached to models, so maybe this is a replacement sponson for the tick tank.

If I had to guess, the tick is going to be about the size of the myphitic blight hauler. So I don't see it having pintle weapons or being a tank.

The tank has servo skull guns and a skull on the trophy rack for scale. And the under mounting on the rail is the same as the tick.

 Togusa wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
yeah I'm of the opinion this is a complete chaos undivided relaunch. I bet we're gonna see the entire line re-released.or pretty clsoe to it. Bezerkers and noise marines won't get new kits with this release, as I think GW'll save them for a Khorne and slaaanish release

Here is the kicker, will that include a decent codex?

Why? All those Cultist lists and Alpha Legion stuff, etc.. (alongside Raven Guard and Guilliman Castles/Stormraven lists) had some long, good months in the limelight from late spring 2017 up to the Knight Codex release in many (CSM) cases, while things like Space Wolves, Orks, Genestealer Cults, etc.. were still playing index (which meant basically unplayable). Not even Knights and Drukhari had as many good months on the scene as Chaos Marines did.

If anything, GW should re-vamp Codexes (especially late-release duds like Space Wolves) in reverse order.

Sunny Side Up wrote:

 Togusa wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
yeah I'm of the opinion this is a complete chaos undivided relaunch. I bet we're gonna see the entire line re-released.or pretty clsoe to it. Bezerkers and noise marines won't get new kits with this release, as I think GW'll save them for a Khorne and slaaanish release

Here is the kicker, will that include a decent codex?

Why? All those Cultist lists and Alpha Legion stuff, etc.. (alongside Raven Guard and Guilliman Castles/Stormraven lists) had some long, good months in the limelight from late spring 2017 up to the Knight Codex release in many (CSM) cases, while things like Space Wolves, Orks, Genestealer Cults, etc.. were still playing index (which meant basically unplayable). Not even Knights and Drukhari had as many good months on the scene as Chaos Marines did.

If anything, GW should re-vamp Codexes (especially late-release duds like Space Wolves) in reverse order.

I assumed he meant a world eaters and emperor's children codex

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