New Assassin Rules

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**KurtAngle2**

The new Assassin rules in the March 2019 WD have been leaked...what do you think of the changes they made? The Eversor is imo absolutely OP as feth, gaining Fight Twice Stratagem, 4+++ FNP Stratagem and a host of new rules that makes him even more deadly than ever (Shooting attack when Units fall back, Extra attacks on Kills and 6" Consolidate). Also you can only include any single a single Assassin if you want for 1 CP and the price tag of that model (*Spoiler* they're all 85 pts now)

**kastelen**

Can you link some pictures or an article?

**KurtAngle2**

Here's the rules...absolutely bonkers

https://imgur.com/a/kgH6ycq

**Daedalus81**

BIG game changer....you can pick whatever assassin that fits the opponent.

Psykers will weep.

**Punisher23**

So, my imperial guard leave 85 points out as reinforcement and get an assassin of my choice dependant on opponent?

**Daedalus81**

Punisher23 wrote:
So, my imperial guard leave 85 points out as reinforcement and get an assassin of my choice dependant on opponent?

Yes. You have access to the stratagems whether you take a detachment or not.

**Not Online!!!**

Jesus, that are some reaaally good rules.

**Elbows**

Man, I can hear the tournament whinging already..."hey did your Castellan combination force not do quite as well as you wanted? Here you go!"

**UMGuy**

For 1 CP, I can get an assassin without having to have a dedicated attachment for them? No more Aux detachment for - CP? So I can have my 3 detachments AND an assassin?

**Daedalus81**

UMGuy wrote:
For 1 CP, I can get an assassin without having to have a dedicated attachment for them? No more Aux detachment for - CP? So I can have my 3 detachments AND an assassin?

Yup!

**Darsath**

UMGuy wrote:
For 1 CP, I can get an assassin without having to have a dedicated attachment for them? No more Aux detachment for - CP? So I can have my 3 detachments AND an assassin?

Yes. It's a little hard to spot on the pictures, but on the first page in these leaks, we can see under Stratagems it says "If your army is Battle-forged and includes any IMPERIUM Detachments (that is, a Detachment in which every unit has the IMPERIUM keyword), you have access to the stratagems shown here".

**UMGuy**

Alright... that feels OP. Basically the IK/AM/BA soup just got an assassin.

**An Actual Englishman**

I hereby declare 2019 'year of the OP'.

**Galas**

My 3 Vindicares are gonna be very happy with this. The new Headshot hability and the stratagems are just bonkers. This just seems incredible OP tbh. Imperial Soup has received his cherry on top, as if they needed it.

**Slayer-Fan123**

That's...some really good stuff.

**Ordana**

Yeah.... I can see tournaments banning the "add an Assassin to your army" stratagem.
Imperium didn't need this.

**Daedalus81**

That callidus...good lord.

Reign of confusion is painful.

**Slayer-Fan123**

The good news is all the Assassins look legit dangerous now at least?

**Darsath**

Daedalus81 wrote:
That callidus...good lord.

Reign of confusion is painful.

Punishes armies with little access to CPs even more. Hardly what the game needs atm when the Command Point system is as busted as it is atm.

**Trimarius**

Well, being able to psychic a castellan to death was fun while it lasted.

Though, funnily enough, GSC can take an assassin of their own, too, as that Brood Brother detachment still has the Imperium tag. The corruption runs deep, apparently.

**An Actual Englishman**

Headshot looks entirely stupid also. Goodbye any Ork character. I'm rapidly losing faith in GWs ability to balance this game.

**Ordana**

Daedalus81 wrote:
That callidus...good lord.

Reign of confusion is painful.

Rules are almost exactly the same as the index.
The Phase sword gained 1 Dmg is the only change I see at a glance.

**Daedalus81**

Ordana wrote:
Daedalus81 wrote:
That callidus...good lord.

Reign of confusion is painful.
Rules are almost exactly the same as the index.
The Phase sword gained 1 Dmg is the only change I see at a glance.

Could have sworn it was different. Probably, because it never saw play.

Seems like that is very likely now.

**Galas**

I was expecting a little buff for Assasins to make them worthwhile but all of this?

Double headshooting Vindicare that gives you +1Cp for character killed that doesn't even consumes you one of 3 detachments? It seems excesive.

**Darsath**

Daedalus81 wrote:
Ordana wrote:
Daedalus81 wrote:
That callidus...good lord.

Reign of confusion is painful.
Rules are almost exactly the same as the index.
The Phase sword gained 1 Dmg is the only change I see at a glance.

Could have sworn it was different. Probably, because it never saw play.

Seems like that is very likely now.

It's quite funny now that there's a stratagem to turn the ability back on after the first round, but it costs 2 CPs. So you'll certainly need to be playing some Guard to get those excess CPs (plus the Guard strats aren't great anyways).

**Sgt_Smudge**

I'll be honest, I do prefer the Assassins being more powerful than what they were beforehand. They're super powerful assets, even rarer than Astartes forces when deployed.

However, they should have the price to accompany that, and I don't agree with being able to take them for CP. You take them as a 0CP Vanguard detachment, as part of your army, but I really don't like the metagame of keeping a portion of your list nebulous, and then cherrypicking after you see your enemy.

Remove that, bump up their price a bit, and I'm happy.

**Trimarius**

An Actual Englishman wrote:Headshot looks entirely stupid also. Goodbye any Ork character. I'm rapidly losing faith in GWs ability to balance this game.

How is that an issue for Ork characters, specifically? It works out to be about three damage a shot, on average. It's not great for Weird Boyz, with all that self-inflicted damage, but that's neither new nor unique to Orks.

Galas wrote:I was expecting a little buff for Assasins to make them worthwhile but all of this?

Double headshooting Vindicare that gives you +1Cp for character killed that doesn't even consumes you one of 3 detachments? It seems excesive.

That second shot has to be at a different target, though, so you can't splatter one character with it.

**Slayer-Fan123**

An now average of D3 per shot actually makes them somewhat dangerous at least.

**bullyboy**

Chaos force takes Cypher, makes him warlord.....immediately has ability to add an assassin to the army

**HoundsofDemos**

bullyboy wrote:
Chaos force takes Cypher, makes him warlord.....immediately has ability to add an assassin to the army

ugh lol, keywords are getting wonkier and wonkier and GW is not helping.