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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/27 03:06:34
Subject: Re:What model would you like to see the Guard get?
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Vaktathi wrote:Greatcoat IG in plastic like these guys.
Basically Vostroyans with helmets.
Always and forever.
That's also a female soldier, btw. So you cover that angle too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/27 03:13:49
Subject: What model would you like to see the Guard get?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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To those behind the dropship- what about Forgeworld's Valkyrie Sky Talon? It looks like it could lift one of the munitorum armoured container scenery pieces, which could be loaded with troops. I don't know if it could carry a Russ or a Chimera. You'd want it in plastic, and you'd want the claw mechanism to be moveable and be designed in such a way that it could be magnetized.
These are the kinds of models I'm interested in- utility pieces as opposed to more conventional battle pieces. Another example is the Arvus Lighter. They also used to make a sentinel/ loader.
The reason I dig these types of models so much is that I don't really play guard, so I need guard based models that support campaign play for other Imperial Factions and round out the world beyond the battlefield. GW's regimental advisors were another guard unit that I really liked.
Really though? I just wish that most of the stuff Forgeworld makes was just GW instead. That gives you dozens more models for all armies. I'm not a fan of resin when I can avoid it. Unfortunately, even with GW, some kits are only available in resin.Also, Forgeworld prices are even worse than GW prices.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/27 03:30:55
Subject: Re:What model would you like to see the Guard get?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Dandelion wrote:Rough riders. More specifically I'd like to see them expanded into their own organization (similar to scions) with a couple units
Example:
- Lancers: armed with boom lances, hot-shot laspistols and chainswords (sarge can take power sword)
- Dragoons: armed with hotshot lasguns and laspistols (or something similar)
- Mounted commander and command squad: gives orders and has a sweet flag (all have power swords and hot shot laspistols)
- Mounted commissar
The rough rider regiments would essentially be elite regiments with BS 3+ and WS 3+.
Rules-wise they can fit into any guard detachment, but get a bonus if taken as their own detachment (like scions).
This, but expand it! Heavy cavalry rough riders, like knights or cataphracts! 2+ or 3+ armor, some type of power maul type weapon or something?
Give them 2 attacks on the charge. All kinds of neat ideas they could do.
I would, without hesitation, buy at minimum 2000 points of guard cavalry if they released it.
If they aren't going to give us horse cavalry, then make air cav! Give me some type of of Huey-like transport and fun rules!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/27 04:12:51
Subject: What model would you like to see the Guard get?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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Plastic Tauros. Assault dunebuggies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/27 04:15:05
Subject: What model would you like to see the Guard get?
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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A crater of melted Cadians.
...what? Somebody had to say it
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Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.
Manchu wrote:I'm a Catholic. We eat our God.
Due to work, I can usually only ship any sales or trades out on Saturday morning. Please trade/purchase with this in mind. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/27 04:24:16
Subject: Re:What model would you like to see the Guard get?
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Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter
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Also, I thought of one more thing:
A new and better tank upgrade sprue. Importantly, it needs to have lots of spare tracks links, plus tow cables, tools, jerry cans, bedrolls, mess sets, maybe even an un-ditching log. Skirts for the tanks would be nice to have on it too. The current tank upgrade sprue is disappointing, because it is deficient in track links.
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Guardsmen, hear me! Cadia may lie in ruin, but her proud people do not! For each brother and sister who gave their lives to Him as martyrs, we will reap a vengeance fiftyfold! Cadia may be no more, but will never be forgotten; our foes shall tremble in fear at the name, for their doom shall come from the barrels of Cadian guns, fired by Cadian hands! Forward, for vengeance and retribution, in His name and the names of our fallen comrades! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/27 06:40:08
Subject: What model would you like to see the Guard get?
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
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That's going to be covered in the forthcoming Chaos release.
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Please note, for those of you who play Chaos Daemons as a faction the term "Daemon" is potentially offensive. Instead, please play codex "Chaos: Mortally Challenged". Thank you. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/27 07:21:04
Subject: What model would you like to see the Guard get?
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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Personal opinion is that there should be plastic bodies for Cadians/Armageddon/Catachan, with resin upgrade kits for other regiments. Or maybe go all-out and do it like anvil industries, where you can order a few dozen guardsmen with the specific bits you want.
Pretty much imposisble for it to ever happen, but it's a fun idea.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/27 09:31:34
Subject: What model would you like to see the Guard get?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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A stub gun stug 3 (I believe that's the B variant) We need an assault gun in 40k. We just need one. It looks cool and with a little 40kifying it would fit in very well.
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iGuy91 wrote:You love the T-Rex. Its both a hero and a Villain in the first two movies. It is the "king" of dinosaurs. Its the best. You love your T-rex.
Then comes along the frakking Spinosaurus who kills the T-rex, and the movie says "LOVE THIS NOW! HE IS BETTER" But...in your heart, you love the T-rex, who shouldn't have lost to no stupid Spinosaurus. So you hate the movie. And refuse to love the Spinosaurus because it is a hamfisted attempt at taking what you loved, making it TREX +++ and trying to sell you it.
Elbows wrote:You know what's better than a psychic phase? A psychic phase which asks customers to buy more miniatures... 
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/27 13:06:54
Subject: Re:What model would you like to see the Guard get?
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Nasty Nob
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Concur on the Rough Riders and the Lord Solar Mach!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/27 13:48:52
Subject: Re:What model would you like to see the Guard get?
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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New grunts. Just an uptdated basic (cadian) guardsmen kit, preferably one for 20 models instead of 10. At the very least it should be on par with the GSC grunts.
Failing that a kit tha allows you to build various regiments. Steel legion, Tallarn, Mordian and so on...
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His pattern of returning alive after being declared dead occurred often enough during Cain's career that the Munitorum made a special ruling that Ciaphas Cain is to never be considered dead, despite evidence to the contrary. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/27 13:55:11
Subject: What model would you like to see the Guard get?
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Discriminating Deathmark Assassin
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The guard range is huge, I think they're ok for now.
Maybe something for other armies.
Ok, maybe new Troops.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/28 03:18:12
Subject: What model would you like to see the Guard get?
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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Blndmage wrote:The guard range is huge, I think they're ok for now.
Maybe something for other armies.
Ok, maybe new Troops.
Compare it to the Marine range.
Compare FETHING ANYTHING to the Marine range.
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Clocks for the clockmaker! Cogs for the cog throne! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/28 03:27:04
Subject: Re:What model would you like to see the Guard get?
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Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade
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Vaktathi wrote:Greatcoat IG in plastic like these guys.
Basically Vostroyans with helmets.
EDIT: didn't realize how huge the image was when I first posted it
Oh sweet jebus yes please
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"Courage and Honour. I hear you murmur these words in the mist, in their wake I hear your hearts beat harder with false conviction seeking to convince yourselves that a brave death has meaning.
There is no courage to be found here my nephews, no honour to be had. Your souls will join the trillion others in the mist shrieking uselessly to eternity, weeping for the empire you could not save.
To the unfaithful, I bring holy plagues ripe with enlightenment. To the devout, I bring the blessing of immortality through the kiss of sacred rot.
And to you, new-born sons of Gulliman, to you flesh crafted puppets of a failing Imperium I bring the holiest gift of all.... Silence."
- Mortarion, The Death Lord, The Reaper of Men, Daemon Primarch of Nurgle
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/28 04:13:37
Subject: Re:What model would you like to see the Guard get?
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Hellish Haemonculus
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Caiphas Cain!
Give him the Commissar statline, add a wound or two (and definitely up his WS and BS). Plus some kind of extraordinary luck ability (deny enemy stratagems on a random die roll? Some kind of FNP that only works on Mortal Wounds?). That'd be awesome.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/28 05:05:27
Subject: What model would you like to see the Guard get?
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Committed Chaos Cult Marine
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I would kinda like to see an alternate Guardsmen kit. It wouldn't invalid the current Cadian one just add additional sculpt options. The guard just need so many troop models that I think it would really help the variation of their basic troops.
I honestly don't think GW would do that as it would probably cut into the sales of the current kit, though; I do think it would still be profitable. Just maybe not as profitable. Not to mention, I don't know if a more modern kit would blend in with the current one too well either.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/28 05:38:45
Subject: What model would you like to see the Guard get?
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Ship's Officer
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I'd like to see GW doing a new regiment fully decked out with all the existing units, like a crusading AM force and new special characters, the old ones should really die off or retire or explained how they are still effective in the new setting.
Lord Solar Macharius(have official model) died off by assassination,
Comm. Cain(have a official BL model, and couple 3rd party ones) retired and died,
old man Yarrick(have 2 models) should really be dead by the current date,
Colonel Straken(have 2 models) should be older but still serviceable, maybe send him off in glory soon,
Marbo(have 2 models) should still be effective, but maybe have a pupil to take up his place in the fluff,
Sgt. Harker(have a model) should still be serviceable,
Creed(have a model) has been captured by the necron collector and put in a snow globe, he can come back in the future fluff,
Sgt. Kell(have a model) was killed by Abbadon recently,
Pask(have a model) should still be serviceable,
Col-Comm Gaunt(have a BL model and a regular one) should be close to death, in the same position as Straken, primed to be send off in glory,
Col. Schaeffer(have a model) should be close to dead in age,
Cpt. Al'rahem(have a model) should be close to death as well,
Commander Chenkov(have a model) should be dead if not already,
Nork Deddog(have 2 models) should be serviceable,
Sgt. Bastonne(no model) had official rules but was discontinued,
Capt. Mogul Kamir(no model) had official rules but was discontinued,
There are a couple characters from FW with models but were discontinued, perhaps died off as well,
Comm. Raine(have a model) is a new female Comm. with rules, more new characters like this please.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/28 07:26:19
Subject: What model would you like to see the Guard get?
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Big Mac wrote:
Lord Solar Macharius(have official model) died off by assassination,
Comm. Cain(have a official BL model, and couple 3rd party ones) retired and died,
old man Yarrick(have 2 models) should really be dead by the current date,
Unless I’m mistaken Cain is dead, or at the very least retired.
I was pretty sure Macharius was dead as well?
Yarrick is the only guardsmen that should never die. Simply because I love the theory that he’s either a perpetual, an orc warp avatar or both.
Whilst I agree that more 40k characters should die I believe they should not do it due to old age. A lifespan of a few centuries is not uncommon due to rejuvenation treatment. Age is not really something that gets nobility/heroes killed in 40k.
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His pattern of returning alive after being declared dead occurred often enough during Cain's career that the Munitorum made a special ruling that Ciaphas Cain is to never be considered dead, despite evidence to the contrary. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/28 07:38:25
Subject: Re:What model would you like to see the Guard get?
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Assassin with Black Lotus Poison
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Jimsolo wrote:Caiphas Cain!
Give him the Commissar statline, add a wound or two (and definitely up his WS and BS). Plus some kind of extraordinary luck ability (deny enemy stratagems on a random die roll? Some kind of FNP that only works on Mortal Wounds?). That'd be awesome.
Cain and Jurgen would be sweet. Cain has chainsword and laspistol, jurgen with meltagun.
They are a unit with the character keyword.
Special Rules:
Jurgen is of course a blank, so no psychic powers may target or be cast by units within X"
Cain is a master swordsman and crack shot. Any rolls to hit of 6+ automatically wound and have an AP value of -3.
Close range fire support: Jurgen may fire his meltagun in the shooting phase even if engaged in close combat and may target individual models if they are in base contact with Cain.
In order to keep up his appearance of an imperial hero, if Cain is within his movement distance of a friendly unit engaged with an enemy character, he must attempt a charge against the enemy character.
Cain will not summarily execute models from units which fail morale tests, his presence is enough to embolden the guard nearby.
And finally, if Cain is slain then Jurgen is removed from play alongside his Commissar. Roll a dice at the beginning of each of your movement phases, on a 4+ Cain and Jurgen have once again managed to cheat death and may be placed on the table within 3" of a friendly infantry unit or basilisk artillery.
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The Laws of Thermodynamics:
1) You cannot win. 2) You cannot break even. 3) You cannot stop playing the game.
Colonel Flagg wrote:You think you're real smart. But you're not smart; you're dumb. Very dumb. But you've met your match in me. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/28 07:51:32
Subject: What model would you like to see the Guard get?
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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Just remake all the DKoK into plastic. Would make my life so much easier... Automatically Appended Next Post: Also, an all-female Guard set would be nice...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/28 13:33:12
Subject: What model would you like to see the Guard get?
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Nasty Nob
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DeathKorp_Rider wrote:Just remake all the DKoK into plastic. Would make my life so much easier...
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Also, an all-female Guard set would be nice...
Haha that would save a lot of people a lot of money! It might make the Death Korps a little less special though.
I like the idea of a female guard box, mixing them into existing boxes would just make getting the models you want more difficult and expensive.
What they need is a strong theme to go with (like the cooler guard regiments), rather than the bland Cadian style.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/28 14:17:53
Subject: What model would you like to see the Guard get?
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Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter
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I like the Cadians!
As far as female models go, while it would be nice for me to make up the gender-balance, segregated boxes would make both perform less individually well. Having 2 regimental aesthetics for sale in plastic already effectively halves the profit on Infantry boxes [though both are so old, they've probably paid their mold cost like 20 times], but making a hypothetical 6 kits [Catachan, Cadian, Valhallan/Armageddon in M and F variants] would really split things up.
Really, I think there should only be 1 infantry box/regimental aesthetic with 5 of each gender in it [and ideally a male and female sergeant head, because to be honest, the Sergeant are like the only ones who are remotely distinct]. Even having 3 regimental aesthetic boxes might push it, if all were re-done.
Also, the greater relevance of including female guardsmen would be defeated by having separate kits.
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Guardsmen, hear me! Cadia may lie in ruin, but her proud people do not! For each brother and sister who gave their lives to Him as martyrs, we will reap a vengeance fiftyfold! Cadia may be no more, but will never be forgotten; our foes shall tremble in fear at the name, for their doom shall come from the barrels of Cadian guns, fired by Cadian hands! Forward, for vengeance and retribution, in His name and the names of our fallen comrades! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/28 14:28:54
Subject: What model would you like to see the Guard get?
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Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta
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new units one or both of the following
new unit, of guardsman on bikes, could just be alternate rough riders, but if so those need better rules or points drops anyway
buggie size vehicles like the new ork ones or the genesteeler cults one 4 wheeler model. to be honest i don't play guard but i do collect and paint my guard army and would love to see what the studio can come up with there. #i'dbuythat
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/28 14:37:38
Subject: What model would you like to see the Guard get?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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A more modern battle tank. I like the Russ, but something at least ww2 looking would be awesome.
And rules to effectively play mechanised light infantry or light infantry in general >_>
Why are some people (or maybe just one?) of the oppinion to get rid of the HWTs? There effective and realistic (enough).
Regarding the female guard bodies: Forcing people to buy mixed boxes is the same as not providing the opportunity for mixed regiments. Both ways you force someone to play and pay for something they don't want.
It just seems better, because if someone is complaining about being forced to play female toysoldiers you can call him a bigot and mysoginist.
A male box and a female box would be swell.
You don't even need female boxes for all regiments. There is enough lore (and enough reality) to justify all male or all female armies.
Or something like the DKoK. Just because you can't see the breasts, doesn't mean there are no female soldiers under the uniform and greatcoat.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/28 14:42:37
Subject: What model would you like to see the Guard get?
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[DCM]
Moustache-twirling Princeps
Gone-to-ground in the craters of Coventry
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Carnikang wrote:A pile of dead bodies made into a wall of dead. As a terrain piece. For Cadians or Valhallans.
Gives cover if you're behind it like a barricade, but much bigger/longer.
Like, sort-of, a Wall of Martyrs?
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Wall-of-Martyrs-Imperial-Defence-Line
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/28 14:55:17
Subject: Re:What model would you like to see the Guard get?
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Nasty Nob
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I like the Cadians!
Haha sorry I guess I'm just sick of seeing them everywhere. They aren't that bad.
I can see the point about spitting sales between boxes, although it seems to work OK for marines. But more boxes means more sculpts, more granularity, more choice... that's the agenda i'm pushing  .
Another thing that occurred to me is that since the 'Armageddon pattern' stuff we haven't seen kits for the sensible variations in standard equipment across the galaxy. Imagine an 'aqua pattern' chimera that is a hovercraft or a 'speed pattern' sentinel that is on three wheels!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/28 16:59:53
Subject: Re:What model would you like to see the Guard get?
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Dakka Veteran
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Seeing as almost 70% of the regiments are no longer available or out of production, no single character is going to solve anything. Severina Raine is proof of that. I'm all for adding new characters to the guard since the vast majority of them are dead but what good are characters if we don't even have regiments anymore? It would be like axing 70% of the space marine chapters, adding a new character that can be used in any chapter & tell space marine players to be happy. The imperial guard does not need a single model. It needs new infantry kits for all of the old regiments, new infantry kits for new regiments, & half a dozen characters to replace the ones they have killed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/28 17:07:24
Subject: What model would you like to see the Guard get?
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
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Cyprien wrote:A more modern battle tank. I like the Russ, but something at least ww2 looking would be awesome.
And rules to effectively play mechanised light infantry or light infantry in general >_>
Why are some people (or maybe just one?) of the oppinion to get rid of the HWTs? There effective and realistic (enough).
Regarding the female guard bodies: Forcing people to buy mixed boxes is the same as not providing the opportunity for mixed regiments. Both ways you force someone to play and pay for something they don't want.
It just seems better, because if someone is complaining about being forced to play female toysoldiers you can call him a bigot and mysoginist.
A male box and a female box would be swell.
You don't even need female boxes for all regiments. There is enough lore (and enough reality) to justify all male or all female armies.
Or something like the DKoK. Just because you can't see the breasts, doesn't mean there are no female soldiers under the uniform and greatcoat.
It's the same with all Guard armies... the only one where you'd be able to tell if a soldier is male or female from their body would be catachan. For everything else, just include some extra female heads on sprue, and boom you're done.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/28 17:44:44
Subject: What model would you like to see the Guard get?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Big Mac wrote:
old man Yarrick(have 2 models) should really be dead by the current date.
Yarrik can't die, orks believe he can't and what ever they believe becomes real.
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The flesh tearers really like killing so much. In fact they may love it more than inquisitors. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/28 19:02:23
Subject: What model would you like to see the Guard get?
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Mysterious Techpriest
Fortress world of Ostrakan
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A new Veterans kit (along with rules that makes them even worth to consider taking), ideally a remake of Kasrkins, with various weapons, like special weapons and hellguns, and wargear like camo cloaks and carapace armor.
Otherwise... I think we have all we need.
Maybe better Infantry models, maybe some proper rough raiders, a Leman Russ redesign to make it look less like a bad child'S toy...
Maybe some light, flying transport, like Landspeerder Storm ot Avrus lander that doesn't suck.
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