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Kal Jerico is decent, but not mind-blowing. Original metal sculpt was pretty much perfect, makes me wish I still had my old one from 15ish years ago

Halflings are meh, never cared for GW's halfling aesthetic. Nor ratlings either, for that matter. Still, I've always loved the idea of a halfling team. Just a bunch of tiny guys running around your feet trying to play with the big boys is hilarious.

And finally Kill Team elites sounds great, I like the idea more than commanders. A LOT more. Even better is adding Striking Scorpions, they should have been options in the base Eldar KT from the beginning

If Kal is plastic its a must buy for me if only for conversions.

Otherwise I continue to he crushed by no bloodbowl lizardmen. :(

Halflings before Lizardmen. Okay :( No Necromunda Redemptionists. Okay :(



I hope we see some Warcry or whstever it's called stuff at least

 Insane Ivan wrote:
Needing three (or four, if take into account Arena) books is getting rather unwieldly, though.

KT largely outsources most of its rules to data cards, tactics cards, and mission cards. The Commander expansion, for example, mostly adds specialties which are also on tactics cards. Otherwise, it's like a page of rules. The annoying thing is that Arena and Rogue Trader don't have mission or killzone cards, so you do need the books to play those.

As for the tactics cards, the, releasing even more “exclusive” cards in boxes with models I already have is finally convincing the completionist in me to not bother with them at all, and just use what’s in the book. I’m not playing to necessarily win anyway. It still is annoying, though.

You should've been doing this from the beginning. It's obvious that GW intended those unique tactics cards to be a bonus rather than a requirement. GW games aren't meant for completionists (except maybe Underworlds). You don't get upset at them putting more strategems in Urban Conquest or unique battalions in the Start Collecting boxes do you?

So where's this come from?

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
So where's this come from?

Arena game as announced earlier:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/02/15/15th-feb-new-models-games-and-funko-pop-at-the-new-york-toy-fairgw-homepage-post-3/

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
So where's this come from?

The Combat Arena Board game: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/02/15/15th-feb-new-models-games-and-funko-pop-at-the-new-york-toy-fairgw-homepage-post-3/

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
So where's this come from?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/02/15/15th-feb-new-models-games-and-funko-pop-at-the-new-york-toy-fairgw-homepage-post-3/

Edit: double-ninjad, nice

from a small stand alone game that's described as a prequel to blackstone fortress GW talked about about a month or two ago (last set of mass reveals, I can't remember the event),

its not out yet

That in the Blackstone fortress prequel boardgame - combat arena or something like that. Had another Rogue trader, a servitor and a techpriest in it.

 Sqorgar wrote:

 Insane Ivan wrote:
Needing three (or four, if take into account Arena) books is getting rather unwieldly, though.

KT largely outsources most of its rules to data cards, tactics cards, and mission cards. The Commander expansion, for example, mostly adds specialties which are also on tactics cards. Otherwise, it's like a page of rules. The annoying thing is that Arena and Rogue Trader don't have mission or killzone cards, so you do need the books to play those.

As for the tactics cards, the, releasing even more “exclusive” cards in boxes with models I already have is finally convincing the completionist in me to not bother with them at all, and just use what’s in the book. I’m not playing to necessarily win anyway. It still is annoying, though.

You should've been doing this from the beginning. It's obvious that GW intended those unique tactics cards to be a bonus rather than a requirement. GW games aren't meant for completionists (except maybe Underworlds). You don't get upset at them putting more strategems in Urban Conquest or unique battalions in the Start Collecting boxes do you?

Very true, though that is also because I don’t play main 40k

But yes, you’re absolutely right - though a main reason to want those cards was to have the faction tactics on cards as well, just like the “common” ones (which tend to be rather more boring).

As for the books, you’re right there as well, and I do like the approach where it’s always optional to use the additional rules (Commanders, Arena, Elites), meaning that you shouldn’t have a “normal” Kill Team of just boys and gretchin taking on Custodes. It also means that my basic kill team isn’t invalidated because there’s suddenly a whole bunch of new, better units added to the base rules.

Kal and Scabs are good - although Scabs looks a bit clean. Now just need his mom and her Inqusitorial retinue....

Ughh hate Haflings.

 Insane Ivan wrote:

As for the books, you’re right there as well, and I do like the approach where it’s always optional to use the additional rules (Commanders, Arena, Elites), meaning that you shouldn’t have a “normal” Kill Team of just boys and gretchin taking on Custodes. It also means that my basic kill team isn’t invalidated because there’s suddenly a whole bunch of new, better units added to the base rules.

Aren't Commanders not compatible with Arena? And I'm guessing Elites will likewise not be compatible with Arena. You may not need all the expansions at the same time, but it does require planning ahead (I just painted this commanders, so let's play Commanders on Sector Mechanicus, in the Conservatory, with the lead pipe).

Tastyfish wrote:
That in the Blackstone fortress prequel boardgame - combat arena or something like that. Had another Rogue trader, a servitor and a techpriest in it.

the model is pretty nice, it's a fantastic looking crusader, I hope it's also thus a prototype for a crusader kit.

 Binabik15 wrote:
Halflings before Lizardmen. Okay :( No Necromunda Redemptionists. Okay :(

If you were expecting any of the old Outlanders gangs to make a reappearance any time soon, then I'm afraid you've not been paying any attention.

Overread wrote:

Racerguy180 wrote:

Inquisitor Gideon wrote:Ah Kal and Scab's. Finally. I was wondering when a resculpt would finally appear. Now where's Mad Donna to replace that old abomination?

the old miniature was just horrid. I cant wait to see what they do with her.

Agreed, I never liked the original model either. Really hope that she gets to look as good as Kria from FW!

Kria looks great and I hope Ulanti follows suit.

 Sarouan wrote:
Honestly, what did you expect ? Kill Team is literally just a set of rules adapted for small scale skirmish 40k. So of course they would adapt more units from 40k that are fit to be played in small numbers. What's more Elite than a Kill Team, anyway ?

Funny that a few time ago, people were moaning about the lack of update about Kill Team. And now they're moaning because it's "just bringing Elites". Yeah, no kidding - it was always about having a game while using your regular 40k miniatures in a slightly different way.

Next extension will be Fast Attack or Support, by the way.

I don't know...how about an expansion that adds new Kill teams like Inquisition, Demons, Eldar corsairs, or any of the other various factions in 40k that aren't suited to mass warfare? How about a substantial campaign system similar to Mordheim or Necromunda?

Arena might not be for me, but it was neat as it allowed players to play in a different way.

Elites (and HQs) should have been a a free PDF with "here are some new units you can use in your existing Kill Teams." Instead of, "let's spend lots of resources putting out a book that doesn't offer anything than a few new units and spot rules."

You are probably right that the next expansion will be heavy support......that would fit the theme of uninspired KT expansions. Which is a bummer, because KT at it's core is great, and has a ton of potential to do interesting things like the Rogue Trader set.

No love for the Halflings

I like them.

I mean, Kill Team used to be Elites, Troops and Fast Attack - and the initial promo video showed off Thunderwolf Cavalry - so there's nothing here so far you shouldn't have expected.

As for the contents of the book, I expect some asymmetric scenarios - this plus the board from Arena is basically a Space Hulk scenario, for example.

 Darkseid wrote:
No love for the Halflings

I like them.

I don’t play Blood Bowl, but I’m loving these halflings. Out of curiosity, are they a viable team without a Treeman?

 Darkseid wrote:
No love for the Halflings

I like them.

BEST TEAM TO DATE!!!

*once again wishes that GW would ditch the blind bags for the SM heroes line and just sell them as a kill team*

I think the halflings are ridiculous in all the right ways. I dig them. Kal Jerico and Scabs are awesome. I'm not 100% for Elites to Kill Team but I'm sure the models will be cool, regardless.

 Geifer wrote:
I cannot help but notice that the elite supplement cover has a Terminator with nice anatomy while also being surrounded only by Primaris. It's probably too much to hope for but I wouldn't mind getting Primaris Terminators that fix the awful problems Terminator models have had since forever. I mean, they did a good job with Abaddon. But it's just going to be awkward painting him yellow, so hey GW, do the right thing! Give us new Terminators!

That would be amazing.

I always wanted to replace the gnoblars in my Ogre Kingdoms with halflings but sourcing models was too much work.
And as I mostly play skirmish now 1 box of Blood Bowl halflings should cover my needs.

Regarding the two new Kill Team faction starters - are they like Starn's Disciples or Theta-7 with newly designed commanders? I'm not familiar enough with 40k models to tell if the guys on the front of the box are new or not.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Kill Team: Baneblades when tho

At last players will finally be able to use their scout titans like Warhounds in skirmish games in 2020 I predict. It's about time GW stopped ignoring the superheavy element of their playerbase and allowed players with full Knight armies and such to participate.

Will there be other previews, or is that all?

2 tomorrow and 1 on Wednesday, according to Warhammer community

 Sqorgar wrote:
Regarding the two new Kill Team faction starters - are they like Starn's Disciples or Theta-7 with newly designed commanders? I'm not familiar enough with 40k models to tell if the guys on the front of the box are new or not.

From the box art, it looks like Flash Gitz for Orks and Scarab Occult Terminators for Thousand Sons. There’s no hint of any commanders in the art, so I’d guess these boxes will not contain any.

That said, obviously we also don’t know how “compatible” Commanders and Elites will be. They probably will be, but I can imagine most games with expansions will use only one expansion at a time. Or at the very least all new KT starters will only cater to the latest flavour for KT.