Switch Theme:

GW At GAMA.  [RSS] Share on facebook Share on Twitter Submit to Reddit
»
Author Message
Advert


Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
  • No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
  • Times and dates in your local timezone.
  • Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
  • Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
  • Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now.




Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut





 Geifer wrote:

In a way I like the Kirby era better. Things were dire, but GW had real economic reasons to implement change, hopefully for the better. The current model, on the other hand, is so successful that GW would be foolish to try something new. Which sucks for people like me who aren't happy with how their games are released. Nothing that can be done about it, though.


The great oddity I've seen as of late is that while GW sales have been fantastic, I don't see many people playing games. It feels like people are mostly just overloading their piles of shame right now.
   
Made in us
Skilled SDF-1 Pin-Point Barrier Jockey






...yeah, we are >_>
   
Made in de
Inspiring Icon Bearer






 LunarSol wrote:
 Geifer wrote:

In a way I like the Kirby era better. Things were dire, but GW had real economic reasons to implement change, hopefully for the better. The current model, on the other hand, is so successful that GW would be foolish to try something new. Which sucks for people like me who aren't happy with how their games are released. Nothing that can be done about it, though.


The great oddity I've seen as of late is that while GW sales have been fantastic, I don't see many people playing games. It feels like people are mostly just overloading their piles of shame right now.


We are decidedly not!

*inconspicuously shoves unopened Wrath and Rapture under the bed*

No sir!

Nehekhara lives! Sort of! 
   
Made in us
Near Golden Daemon Caliber





Affton, MO. USA

 Geifer wrote:
 LunarSol wrote:
 Geifer wrote:

In a way I like the Kirby era better. Things were dire, but GW had real economic reasons to implement change, hopefully for the better. The current model, on the other hand, is so successful that GW would be foolish to try something new. Which sucks for people like me who aren't happy with how their games are released. Nothing that can be done about it, though.


The great oddity I've seen as of late is that while GW sales have been fantastic, I don't see many people playing games. It feels like people are mostly just overloading their piles of shame right now.


We are decidedly not!

*inconspicuously shoves unopened Wrath and Rapture under the bed*

No sir!

Putting it under with all the “source material” for skin tones huh?

LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13

I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 
   
Made in de
Inspiring Icon Bearer






That's totally scientific research!

Nehekhara lives! Sort of! 
   
Made in us
Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos






How else do you get into the mindset to play Slaanesh?

2750 Unliving Legion of the Zarith Dynasty
840 Imperial Knights of House Janis
2000 Khorne Bloodbound of the Skullfiend Tribe (Aqshy)
2000 Tzeentch Arcanites of the Cult of Searing Light (Hysh)
3000 Slaves to Darkness of the Legion of Rusted Chains (Allpoints/Azyr)
2500 Sylvaneth of the Seelie Court (Ghyran)
 
   
Made in gb
Boom! Leman Russ Commander





The Shire(s)

I think my pile of unbuilt plastic is now decidedly a fire risk... :/

Polystyrene and card burns well

 ChargerIIC wrote:
If algae farm paste with a little bit of your grandfather in it isn't Grimdark I don't know what is.
 
   
Made in es
Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets




Vigo. Spain.

At this point when I die I hope they burn me with all my unbuild and unpainted miniatures in a boat, so I can finish them in Valhalla.

 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

ERJAK wrote:
Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

 
   
Made in gb
Boom! Leman Russ Commander





The Shire(s)

 Galas wrote:
At this point when I die I hope they burn me with all my unbuild and unpainted miniatures in a boat, so I can finish them in Valhalla.



Don't forget that they must lay your weapons alongside your trophies: a chipped hobby knife; a pair of clippers, the tips twisted; an old paintbrush, with the last few remaining bristles. The tools of a warrior who went out fighting.

 ChargerIIC wrote:
If algae farm paste with a little bit of your grandfather in it isn't Grimdark I don't know what is.
 
   
Made in gb
Fixture of Dakka






“When I die, my worst fear is that my wife sells my stuff for what I told her I paid for it”

   
Made in us
Been Around the Block




These times are infinitely better than the Kirby times
   
Made in us
Dakka Veteran





I just wish GW would stop using the excuse "we're a miniature company not a game company" for their shoddy rules.
Seriously what game company hires fiction novel writers to write their rules instead of game designers? it's a mind bogglingly terrible idea and it shows.
   
Made in us
Legendary Master of the Chapter






Danny slag wrote:
I just wish GW would stop using the excuse "we're a miniature company not a game company" for their shoddy rules.
Seriously what game company hires fiction novel writers to write their rules instead of game designers? it's a mind bogglingly terrible idea and it shows.


Outside of straight min max tournament settings that generally break anything they touch, how bad is it really.


 Unit1126PLL wrote:
 Scott-S6 wrote:
And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.

Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!

 
   
Made in jp
Longtime Dakkanaut





Danny slag wrote:
I just wish GW would stop using the excuse "we're a miniature company not a game company" for their shoddy rules.
Seriously what game company hires fiction novel writers to write their rules instead of game designers? it's a mind bogglingly terrible idea and it shows.

They already stopped using that excuse. Noone has said it since the Kirby era. Also Warhammer Underworlds is probably the best balanced rule set they have ever done. Killteam has a solid rule set. Bloodbowl, adeptus Titanicus and the newest version of lotr are all pretty well regarded. I haven't played Blackstone fortress but it has an 8.5 rating over on boardgamegeek which is pretty good by their standards.
   
Made in de
Longtime Dakkanaut





It's not a pile of shame, it's an extensive sprue-based bits box.

And I'll add to it.
   
Made in pl
Longtime Dakkanaut





Danny slag wrote:
Seriously what game company hires fiction novel writers to write their rules instead of game designers? it's a mind bogglingly terrible idea and it shows.

To be fair, some of these did pretty good job with multiple games and should be (rightfully) praised for it.

The real mind boggling thing is how you can be clearly completely unfit for the job, like certain Eldar writer - who is producing blatantly broken books for his pet faction, while rest of his work (see say DW and Imperial Agents in 7th edition) is bland, tired, lazy mess that easily beats even infamous 4th edition CSM book in every possible way while also starting the whole 'no bits no rules' crap on unprecedented scale - yet still keep your job

And before his fanboys complain, his novels are if anything even worse. He completely slaughtered Tau in his series ignoring their established fluff and opening dozens of colossal plot holes in what could be perfect 'first contact' story in hands of another writer. Alas...
   
Made in au
Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests






Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.

I thought Phil was just a background writer now?

   
Made in jp
Longtime Dakkanaut





 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I thought Phil was just a background writer now?

He has been just a background writer for about five years now. I think some users on here are living on the past.
   
Made in gb
Fixture of Dakka






Danny slag wrote:
I just wish GW would stop using the excuse "we're a miniature company not a game company" for their shoddy rules.
Seriously what game company hires fiction novel writers to write their rules instead of game designers? it's a mind bogglingly terrible idea and it shows.


What are you talking about? One or two of the game designers may have gone on to write novels (Andy hoare and Gav Thorpe are the only two that spring to mind right now), but you've got cause and effect the wrong way round.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I thought Phil was just a background writer now?


A background writer for Age of Sigmar, so the complaints here are even more out of touch.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2019/03/15 11:44:45


 
   
Made in es
Brutal Black Orc




Barcelona, Spain

Danny slag wrote:
I just wish GW would stop using the excuse "we're a miniature company not a game company" for their shoddy rules.


That's an excuse that they've never used.

Seriously what game company hires fiction novel writers to write their rules instead of game designers? it's a mind bogglingly terrible idea and it shows.


You got it kind of backwards. They let their game designers play novel writers.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Chikout wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I thought Phil was just a background writer now?

He has been just a background writer for about five years now. I think some users on here are living on the past.


People still complain about ward, even though he left gw more than half a decade ago.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2019/03/15 12:00:06


 
   
Made in es
Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets




Vigo. Spain.

But didn't Matt Ward come back a couple of years ago?

 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

ERJAK wrote:
Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

 
   
Made in us
Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor






Right behind you.

 Galas wrote:
But didn't Matt Ward come back a couple of years ago?

No. He was doing contracted work for Black Library.
   
Made in nl
Moustache-twirling Princeps




We'll find out soon enough eh.

Complaining about Ward is different though - the work of rules writers typically vanishes with each subsequent iteration of the codex, or at least dissipates over time, but the work of background writers tends to stick around until it's directly contradicted. As such, Ward's horror show lingers like the stink of spoiled meat long after he's gone.

I will say that it's unfair to blame Ward solely for the things he sharted out, somebody gave him permission/instructed him to write that garbage, but while said garbage is still floating around in the setting's background I don't think having a pop occasionally is as unreasonable and "stuck in the past" as some like to pretend.

I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
I have a blog now, evidently. Featuring the Alternative Mordheim Model Megalist.

"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
-----
"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal 
   
Made in jp
Longtime Dakkanaut





People seem confused by this so I'll lay it out here.
Pete Foley is head of the boxed games and books. Under him there is Ben Johnson in charge of Aos and someone in charge of 40k ( It was Wade price). There are 4 fiction writers who work on both aos and 40k. There are currently 4 rules writers for 40k and 3 for AoS. There is also a team of 2 doing Killteam, underworlds etc. There is a little cross over with the rules team, Robin Cruddace worked on the aos Dok book for example. Surprisingly Dave Sanders did the entirety of season 1 of underworlds by himself which explains why that game's balance is pretty good.
There are also about 30 miniature designers and about 10 full time artists.
One little tidbit is that Mark Gibbons recently announced that he would do some art for GW again.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2019/03/15 12:55:46


 
   
Made in us
Bonkers Buggy Driver with Rockets





Scotland, but nowhere near my rulebook

Utterly off topic, but good to hear Mark Gibbons is coming back. Always liked the contrast between him and Blanche.

(Ian Miller FTW, though)
   
Made in de
Defending Guardian Defender





 Irbis wrote:
Danny slag wrote:
Seriously what game company hires fiction novel writers to write their rules instead of game designers? it's a mind bogglingly terrible idea and it shows.

To be fair, some of these did pretty good job with multiple games and should be (rightfully) praised for it.

The real mind boggling thing is how you can be clearly completely unfit for the job, like certain Eldar writer - who is producing blatantly broken books for his pet faction, while rest of his work (see say DW and Imperial Agents in 7th edition) is bland, tired, lazy mess that easily beats even infamous 4th edition CSM book in every possible way while also starting the whole 'no bits no rules' crap on unprecedented scale - yet still keep your job

And before his fanboys complain, his novels are if anything even worse. He completely slaughtered Tau in his series ignoring their established fluff and opening dozens of colossal plot holes in what could be perfect 'first contact' story in hands of another writer. Alas...


If you don't have a clue about who is who at GW, stop making personal accusations.

 
   
Made in us
Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine






If Dakkanaughts restricted themselves to speaking about only subjects they understand, then Dakka would be as quiet as a graveyard.

“You know, the very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common, They don’t alter their views to fit the facts. They alter the facts to fit their views.” -- The Doctor 
   
Made in us
Ferocious Blood Claw



Michigan

 Galas wrote:
At this point when I die I hope they burn me with all my unbuild and unpainted miniatures in a boat, so I can finish them in Valhalla.

That's not going to fit in a longboat...

Bits box, I ain't got no bits box...I have a bits room...
 
   
Made in gb
Council of 13 Runner Up






 Crimson Devil wrote:
If Dakkanaughts restricted themselves to speaking about only subjects they understand, then Dakka would be as quiet as a graveyard.


Dunno. I could bore you all to tears with the finer points of Investigation and Adjudication!

Fed up for Scalpers? Why not join us? 
   
Made in us
[DCM]
[***]






Svalarheima, MA

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
 Crimson Devil wrote:
If Dakkanaughts restricted themselves to speaking about only subjects they understand, then Dakka would be as quiet as a graveyard.


Dunno. I could bore you all to tears with the finer points of Investigation and Adjudication!


Don't sell yourself short - you bore us to tears on a lot of subjects!

GW's GAMA reveals were...OK.

Here's hoping that they were saving the Good Stuff for Adepticon!

Nil nos tremefacit.
 
   
 
Forum Index » News & Rumors
Go to: