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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/15 13:59:23
Subject: Landspeeder flying behaviour?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I understand that Ls has antigrav thingies, but can they then fly like a helicopter do sideway circular moves to sweep a target?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/15 14:06:15
Subject: Landspeeder flying behaviour?
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They can hover and turn, so I don't see why not.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/15 22:19:26
Subject: Landspeeder flying behaviour?
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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(from looking at the models, YMMV)
I suspect their lateral movement will not be all that zippy. While I’m sure they can do a lot with angles and jiggering with the grav-plates, most of the thrust is pointed straight back. So while they can probably circle strafe and jink, most of their raw speed is going to full speed ahead.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/15 22:44:49
Subject: Landspeeder flying behaviour?
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The Hammer of Witches
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Not sure if this would be more suitable for 'background' but like Nevelon said, it can hover, but with most of the propulsion pointed straight back, it's going to be a lot better at forward movement than lateral.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/15 23:44:52
Subject: Landspeeder flying behaviour?
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Humorless Arbite
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They would definitely be able to yaw like crazy. They would probably be behave more like a hovercraft if you're looking for a contemporary flight profile for comparison with the ability to operate at altitude. Considering that it's not particularly desirable to fly helicopters out if trim ( most of the time ) at high speeds even when they are capable it's probably fine to use helicopters as a comparison.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/16 00:13:55
Subject: Landspeeder flying behaviour?
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Maybe like an Osprey or VTOL, except that it doesn’t actually have a tilt engine.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/16 04:39:37
Subject: Landspeeder flying behaviour?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Modern hovercraft can combine forward momentum and thrust while vectoring thrust sideways from the rear. This lets them loop around in an O shape with the nose pointed toward the center. I imagine a landspeeder could do this as well.
simply going side to side or even backwards would be a lot more ponderous.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/16 07:02:16
Subject: Landspeeder flying behaviour?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Bookwrack wrote:Not sure if this would be more suitable for 'background' but like Nevelon said, it can hover, but with most of the propulsion pointed straight back, it's going to be a lot better at forward movement than lateral.
A thousand pardons, but I thought background was like fluff and other such things.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/16 09:21:30
Subject: Landspeeder flying behaviour?
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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I’ve always imagined the latest models move like a hovercraft, albeit a floating one.
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Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/17 03:40:41
Subject: Landspeeder flying behaviour?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Somehow I imagine the Ls has the same agility like a tractor compared to an Eldar Jetbike? ..which I would imagine as very agine.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/17 10:53:37
Subject: Landspeeder flying behaviour?
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Fixture of Dakka
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KiloFiX wrote:Maybe like an Osprey or VTOL, except that it doesn’t actually have a tilt engine.
Maybe they do hard turn with changing the pull on engines. If one goes at 100% and the other at 25% the vehicle would start turning very fast.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/17 16:03:39
Subject: Landspeeder flying behaviour?
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Omnipotent Necron Overlord
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I'm sure it has thrust vectoring and it's fins help it stay stabilized and control direction. How it stops is an absolute mystery though. It's turns would be very wide but very fast - this would be effective for jinking - but not really for navigating tight passes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/17 17:20:07
Subject: Landspeeder flying behaviour?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Karol wrote: KiloFiX wrote:Maybe like an Osprey or VTOL, except that it doesn’t actually have a tilt engine.
Maybe they do hard turn with changing the pull on engines. If one goes at 100% and the other at 25% the vehicle would start turning very fast.
Not that fast - there’s not much axial separation of the engines, so the thrust imbalance isn’t going to be too drastic.
As for stopping, I assume it uses air brakes. All the control surfaces have flaps/elevators/ailerons sculpted on, after all. Possibly some sort of thrust reverser, but there’s nothing obviously sculpted like that.
Also, does the antigravity field just cancel out ambient gravitational forces, or does it provide an actual force? If the latter, then perhaps the direction the force acts in could be angled so it’s not just antiparallel to the local gravity field. That could provide some measure of lateral acceleration too, at the expense of “buoyancy”. Automatically Appended Next Post: HexHammer wrote: Bookwrack wrote:Not sure if this would be more suitable for 'background' but like Nevelon said, it can hover, but with most of the propulsion pointed straight back, it's going to be a lot better at forward movement than lateral.
A thousand pardons, but I thought background was like fluff and other such things.
That’s what this is.  “ how does this stuff work” definitely counts as fluff.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/17 18:14:08
Subject: Re:Landspeeder flying behaviour?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Not that fast - there’s not much axial separation of the engines, so the thrust imbalance isn’t going to be too drastic.
The only land speeders I have ever seen were those big DA ones and the scout ones. I don't think the DA ones turn very fast either, and the heros are heros, they may as well have their landspeeders work with magic. The scout oneson the other hand seem to have three thrusters, so if left engine drops to 15%, right one to 50% and bottom to goes at 100% the turn should happen fast in proportion to what a land speeders 100% speed is. they don't seem to be very aerodynamic, and probably wouldn't do a 180 in 0,1 of a second, unless the land speeders go really fast, but it should be fast enough. But who knows, maybe they have engine thrusters like harriers and use those to turn.
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