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I just found this on reddit.



Is this real or is this old or from the last years?

Edit: Just saw the webway portal in the background. Can't be that old then

By the word "index" in it instead of "codex" I'd say it's the old stuff.

Index Xenos is the equivalent of the Index Astartes article that the Crimson Fists received a few months ago.

topaxygouroun i wrote:
By the word "index" in it instead of "codex" I'd say it's the old stuff.

See the Webway Portal. Maybe they get the Assassin Treatment? Just an updated index

They have every single model in the Ynnari line on one cover!

All 3 of them.

Those other Eldar are Incubi (and the current kit), right? Perhaps it's just the paintjob mixed with my hopes...

Dangerously close timing to the BIG FAQ of April. Soulburst nerf incoming?

Now we're just wishlisting.

Bharring wrote:
Now we're just wishlisting.

I would never. Uh-huh.

topaxygouroun i wrote:
Dangerously close timing to the BIG FAQ of April. Soulburst nerf incoming?

WD has a few months of leadtime, and they're delaying the FAQ until after Adepticon(which is this week).

If that was the case? Things just lined up perfectly.

Pleasepleasepleaseplease take the opportunity to ground-up redesign SfD into something, ANYTHING else...I'm so sick and tired of all my pan-eldar gak getting endlessly whined about because of this utterly braindead game mechanic.

I mean, they are not that different from Assassins, if you think about it:
Assassins are a few characters which can be used in a force with "imperium" keyword - Ynnari are a few characters usable in an aeldary force. The only difference would be that coven units etc. would still be excluded and that Ynnari bring their own Psychic disciplin.
Maybe they even get some nifty strategems as well....to compensate for the possible nerfs .

Waaaghbert wrote:
I mean, they are not that different from Assassins, if you think about it:
Assassins are a few characters which can be used in a force with "imperium" keyword - Ynnari are a few characters usable in an aeldary force. The only difference would be that coven units etc. would still be excluded and that Ynnari bring their own Psychic disciplin.
Maybe they even get some nifty strategems as well....to compensate for the possible nerfs .

I have a horrible feeling that GW is going to completely ignore the fact that they've been dominating the competitive meta for the entirety of their existence since 7th and they're just going to slap together a few stratagems in an afternoon and call it a day.

"Ya know what would be real super fluffy? A 1cp stratagem to allow a unit to SFD a second time in a turn!!!

PEOPLE WOULD LOVE THAT!"

Yeah, it's a real shame to have a single other force which can give imperial soup a run for its money. Let's go ahead and remove that!

Oh man, having them added to any Aeldari army in the same way as Assassins would be sweet. And make SfD an aura ability, NOT army-wide rule nonsense.

And instead of doing actions twice, it would be cool is it was just bonuses to wound or +1 attack (including Ranged attacks) or something like that

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drakerocket wrote:
Yeah, it's a real shame to have a single other force which can give imperial soup a run for its money. Let's go ahead and remove that!

I'm not sure if you're beeing sarcastic....of course imperial soup needs nerfs as well, but you have to start somewhere.

"And instead of doing actions twice, it would be cool is it was just bonuses to wound or +1 attack (including Ranged attacks) or something like that "

PleaseOhPleaseOhPlease.

Bharring wrote:
"And instead of doing actions twice, it would be cool is it was just bonuses to wound or +1 attack (including Ranged attacks) or something like that "

PleaseOhPleaseOhPlease.

Don't see how "shooting twice" and "+1 ranged attack" would be any different when reapers are killing me from a table away.

but at this point I wouldn't be surprised if they went: "People seem to love that three Ynnari models we made once and had like half a page of rules for. They don't seem to stop playing with them. Maybe we could give them a little more rules to make them even more interesting!"

I mean, Tyranids haven't had a single model or rule release since 2014 but they should wait in line for those three Eldar models and a cat to get another update first.

no, I'm not salty. I'm super salty.

I'd rather face something with +1 attack than having two shooting phases. It's not much of an improvement, but the toning-down and removal of extra actions would be a huge step in the right direction.

(Also, Reapers typically use a Heavy:2 profile, so +1A even on ranged attacks is only a 50% increase, whereas shooting twice is a 100% increase.)

Bharring wrote:
Also, Reapers typically use a Heavy:2 profile, so +1A even on ranged attacks is only a 50% increase, whereas shooting twice is a 100% increase.

Not against my NidZilla they don't :(

Bharring wrote:
I'd rather face something with +1 attack than having two shooting phases. It's not much of an improvement, but the toning-down and removal of extra actions would be a huge step in the right direction.

(Also, Reapers typically use a Heavy:2 profile, so +1A even on ranged attacks is only a 50% increase, whereas shooting twice is a 100% increase.)

It would also mean having to shoot the same target, or targets rather than resolving the first action before declaring the second.

Streamlined and requiring tactical thought over complicated point and click.

But however they implement changes, YNNARI needs to NOT be a faction keyword that all flavors of Aeldari can have. Just allow the 3 Ynnari Characters be added to any Aeldari army, make SFD an aura buff that those characters bring, along with some Strats.

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Tyranids waiting on Eldar?
Since 7th for Tyranids:
Maleceptor
Toxicrene
Sporocyst
Tyrannocyte
Neurothrope
Zoanthrope
Venomthrope
Broodlord

Craftworlds:
Eldrad
Autarch
SpiritSeer

Sure, Eldar also got Ynnari. But how does that compare to *GeneStealerCults*?

Despite all the amazing rules, Eldar have gotten crap for new kits in the past decade. Not as bad off as SOB, sure. But one of the oldest lines out there.

Most of my army is still finecast/metal-only.

Bharring wrote:
Those other Eldar are Incubi (and the current kit), right? Perhaps it's just the paintjob mixed with my hopes...

I'm not sure either way honestly; that pose on the one clearly visible at the left doesn't really align to any pose I can see from their store page and the Incubi are still a resin kit making them a candidate for replacement. At the same time, it could simply be perspective tricks and relatively simple adjustments on those particular models in terms of pose.

I kind of hope they aren't a new kit though, because the screeching that would ensue if Incubi got a plastic kit before any of the (non-Dire Avenger) Aspect Warriors would probably deafen a large number of people who happened to be standing around GW stores.

As a craftworld player I would like to see it nerfed into oblivion or moved into where it belongs along with all soup; Narrative play.
Its a line of 1 kit box which makes 3 models. It should not be a friggin faction..

I dont like how CA has points increased a lot of my stuff just ebcause they are broken when used in a ynnari list...


Rant done. I hope they bury it.

Bharring wrote:
Tyranids waiting on Eldar?
Since 7th for Tyranids:
Maleceptor
Toxicrene
Sporocyst
Tyrannocyte
Neurothrope
Zoanthrope
Venomthrope
Broodlord

Craftworlds:
Eldrad
Autarch
SpiritSeer

Sure, Eldar also got Ynnari. But how does that compare to *GeneStealerCults*?

Despite all the amazing rules, Eldar have gotten crap for new kits in the past decade. Not as bad off as SOB, sure. But one of the oldest lines out there.

Most of my army is still finecast/metal-only.

Genestealer Cults are not Tyranids. Same way Death Guard are not CSM and Primaris aren't Grey Knights. Also, didn't Eldar get new jetbike kit as well? Aspect warriors are in a sad position modelwise, but since they tend to rock the meta every single edition, it's something I guess.

Anything is better than what we have at this point. Would love some real strats, warlord traits, and fix the SFD so everyone that plays against them will stop complaining.

 Cult of My Boy Blue wrote:
Anything is better than what we have at this point. Would love some real strats, warlord traits, and fix the SFD so everyone that plays against them will stop complaining.

*Fix SFD so everyone gets to play the same amount of turns in a game.

There. Fixed it for you.

Bharring wrote:
Tyranids waiting on Eldar?
Since 7th for Tyranids:
Maleceptor
Toxicrene
Sporocyst
Tyrannocyte
Neurothrope
Zoanthrope
Venomthrope
Broodlord

Craftworlds:
Eldrad
Autarch
SpiritSeer

Sure, Eldar also got Ynnari. But how does that compare to *GeneStealerCults*?

Despite all the amazing rules, Eldar have gotten crap for new kits in the past decade. Not as bad off as SOB, sure. But one of the oldest lines out there.

Most of my army is still finecast/metal-only.

Plastic Windrunners & Skyrunners came out after most of those Tyranid releases. Most of which are dual (or even triple) kits too.

Sure Eldar have some old models, but there's not as mistreated as you're making them out to sound.

Edit: New Wraithguard, Wraithknights and a flyer kit came out a about a year before 7E. Pretty sure that's still within the last decade.

One thing for sure, it can't be any worse than were before or is now.

fix the SFD so everyone that plays against them will stop complaining

Stop complaining part won't be happening regardless of SfD, but yeah would be good.

Sure Eldar have some old models, but there's not as mistreated as you're making them out to sound

Well it depends on how much you like still having a few 2d edition models in your dex, as well as a lot of 4th edition finecast.

Here's hoping! That one page in the index, which I gather was never even playtested, has done so much harm to the game. A fix has been desperately needed ever since.

I wouldn't be surprised if this update just made things worse though, by reprinting those rules along with some relics, traits and stratagems. But then I'm a cynic... which doesn't mean I'm wrong!

Nids have had it rough, too.

I was thinking the Jetbike resculpts were 6th, but you're right, they're 7th. Decent models, but the old ones were decent too.

I get that GSC aren't Nids, just like Ynnari are CWE or CWE aren't Ynnari - either way, Nids are a little better off than CWE recently. And it's almost impossible to compare to Ynnari - which was a single 3-model release.




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"Edit: New Wraithguard, Wraithknights and a flyer kit came out a about a year before 7E. Pretty sure that's still within the last decade."
In the same timeframe, Nids got the Crone, Haruspex, Exocrine, Harpy, Hive Guard, Tyrant Guard, Warriors, and Old One Eye.

The CWE and Nid releases since 6th do seem fairly even.