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From those poses? Mono.

You just don't get 10 quality poses like that out a multipart kit. Some of those arms fit one, maybe two, ways on specific torsos.

The four toward the back may have some swappable parts (but the one with furred skull on helmet can't work with any other torso) , but most of the others definitely look monopose to me.

I am impressed that they managed to do modern versions of most of the classic helmets.

I think with the Start Collecting being brand new models, they’ll be monopose like Shadowspear and the Sisters box.

All hail Hypno Llama

Love the heart shaped horn head and pink braids. I had a good feeling about the model, but that head makes it too hard to resist.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
"Sphiranx"

It's like they're not even trying anymore.

Nice mini though. Almost looks Kingdom Death-esque (only far fewer penises).

My first thought when the Sphiranx was leaked was that it needs a gigantic phallus.

 Geifer wrote:
Love the heart shaped horn head and pink braids. I had a good feeling about the model, but that head makes it too hard to resist.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
"Sphiranx"

It's like they're not even trying anymore.

Nice mini though. Almost looks Kingdom Death-esque (only far fewer penises).

My first thought when the Sphiranx was leaked was that it needs a gigantic phallus.

Darn it this isn't Kingdom Death!

 Overread wrote:

 Geifer wrote:
Love the heart shaped horn head and pink braids. I had a good feeling about the model, but that head makes it too hard to resist.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
"Sphiranx"

It's like they're not even trying anymore.

Nice mini though. Almost looks Kingdom Death-esque (only far fewer penises).

My first thought when the Sphiranx was leaked was that it needs a gigantic phallus.

Darn it this isn't Kingdom Death!

I've sculpted udderly inappropriate things long before Kingdom Death existed. Because Slaanesh.

On a different note, about that leaked release/price list, has that been proven right by now? Or at least enough to believe that it is? I was thinking of picking up Untamed Beasts (either by themselves or buying the starter set after all - decisions, decisions...). If a price increase is headed our way I may have to accelerate those plans.

 Geifer wrote:
Sphiranx

You know, seeing how similar in looks (and name) it is to Gyrinx, it's a pity it won't be released for 40K as an adult version of Gyrinx. We need more aliens that aren't 100% humanoid with every single thing having analog on human body

 Geifer wrote:


On a different note, about that leaked release/price list, has that been proven right by now? Or at least enough to believe that it is? I was thinking of picking up Untamed Beasts (either by themselves or buying the starter set after all - decisions, decisions...). If a price increase is headed our way I may have to accelerate those plans.

Bar one or 2 very minor price discrepancies (and a missing coffee cup ) the leaked release/price list has been accurate so far no reason to believe it's not accurate for the rest of the year.

It's still not clear what the price rise involves it's probably for an AOS StD rebox release but it's not clear if that replaces the current sets as the rules move from cards to the Tome of Champions or if it's a rebox with extra minis for AOS and the Warcry sets remain. As with most thing GW by the time we know it may be to late to get the current sets if they are pulled.

I have a similar dilemma with the Unmade my least favourite Warband and the only ones I don't own but I'd rather get them in the current form so I might have to pick them up shortly.

Thanks!

Time to spend money. Better safe than sorry.

next week
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/12/01/coming-soon-chaos-cults-ogre-teams-war-in-rohan-and-more/

Warcry warband reboxes for AoS are just double contents



New AoS Terrain - mix of Warcry stuff and some new sprues



Tome of Champions

The double-sprue boxes are nice, but without the cards, they are of limited use in Warcry. Even if the Tome of Champions has all the unit data in it, having double boxes of any of the teams feels excessive when there's only two models per box that have alternate builds. If these were your first box, maybe, but if you already have the Warcry boxes, you won't want two more sets of identical models.

The real question is whether these boxes will ultimately replace the Warcry-specific ones - seems like there wouldn't be a need to have both boxes on the market if Tome of Champions has the unit data in it.

They won't replace them until Warcry goes away. That siad they are a very sensible release, esp with the discount. They easily let you build a single working full unit (very affordable in points) with just two purchases. A very solid choice honestly, and with the price discount over two warcry sets they will be very attractive options for those wanting them purely for an AoS army.

Much like the Underworlds warbands have two versions.

 Overread wrote:
They won't replace them until Warcry goes away. That siad they are a very sensible release, esp with the discount. They easily let you build a single working full unit (very affordable in points) with just two purchases. A very solid choice honestly, and with the price discount over two warcry sets they will be very attractive options for those wanting them purely for an AoS army.

I'm not arguing that they aren't useful for AoS. I'm just saying that they really aren't that useful for Warcry players.

Much like the Underworlds warbands have two versions.

Except the Underworlds version goes out of print when the next season launches. I'm worried that if they start making Warcry character stats in the books, rather than as cards, they'll discontinue the Warcry version of these models and you'll have to buy the more expensive box with more models than you really need or want. Also, I rather like the cards, so I hope they at least remain an option going forward (wouldn't say no to a card pack for all the mercenaries introduced in the last book).

Cards are a really odd thing for GW. They seem to want us to use them, but at the same time they seem ever reluctant to actually make a second order of any. Which means that games at launch are in a good position but a year or two later stock runs out. I really hope GW sorts this out because it does hinder games ike Warcry which is built very heavily around card use (plus they are a lot quicker to reference than the book)

Much like the faction card packages for non-Chaos Warbands and how fast they went out of print? That seemed like an idiotic move. I was going to get into Warcry at my local scene with either Orruks or Stormcast (especially as I already had appropriate models painted), but because I didn't run out and get them at launch, they are damn hard to even find.

Card releases are feeling like something you have to quickly buy as a legacy purchase, even if you are not planning to get into a game at release, because if you get the urge to get into the game later, they are gone.

Well, this is a nice pile of releases, missing only the beasties.
But given there are so many things here I want, its probably best those wait.

Assuming the warcry double boxes are $65, one or even two seem an easy sell, though the terrain boxes are significantly less so at $75


As a bonus, the Rohan palisades also look generally useful.

Yeah the new beasties are next year, early though so could be first month or two before we see the new cat thingy!

 Sqorgar wrote:
I'm not arguing that they aren't useful for AoS. I'm just saying that they really aren't that useful for Warcry players.

And they're not meant for Warcry players. They're very specifically for Slaves to Darkness AoS armies. Don't criticise an orange for not being an apple.

 Overread wrote:
... but a year or two later stock runs out.

A year or two? Some Necromunda card sets are sold out before they're even released.

 AegisGrimm wrote:
Card releases are feeling like something you have to quickly buy as a legacy purchase, even if you are not planning to get into a game at release, because if you get the urge to get into the game later, they are gone.

I don't know whether it's inability or unwillingness to make more, but it is exceptionally frustrating to miss out on card sets the game considers vital. I bought my Delaque cards at the last minute as a kind of "Oh yeah, I should get those" purchase. They were gone a week later.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
And they're not meant for Warcry players. They're very specifically for Slaves to Darkness AoS armies. Don't criticise an orange for not being an apple.

You know, with this being the Warcry thread and all, I was merely wondering out loud whether these releases were relevant or useful to Warcry after someone else posted them here. If these things are not meant for Warcry players, why not take it up with DaveC, who originally posted them here? In the Warcry thread. Where we talk about Warcry. And things meant for Warcry players.

All of the bands aren't at their best out of the boxes, so paying 65$ instead of 100$ is great. Especially when you only get 1 fighter you need in a kit.

From the Eightfold Reasons You Need the Tome of Champions article on Warhammer Community:

No fewer than 15 new warbands are approaching the Bloodwind Spoil, from across all four Grand Alliances. In the Tome of Champions, you’ll get your first look at which factions are coming to Warcry – and an awesome campaign for each one.

I hope they get card packs!

I expected it from the book, a second wave of factions delayed only so that Ossiarchs could be included (or because they were). A great thing to get to expand the game!

just remember if cards come out with that release grab them before they vanish from stock.

 Overread wrote:
I expected it from the book, a second wave of factions delayed only so that Ossiarchs could be included (or because they were). A great thing to get to expand the game!

just remember if cards come out with that release grab them before they vanish from stock.

Or wait until next year's Tome of Champions, as they'll most likely be added there:

You lot have been asking us if the non-Chaos warbands will still be supported after their cards sold out. The answer is an unequivocal yes. The cards are all reprinted in the Tome of Champions, so you’ll always be able to bring the likes of Idoneth Deepkin, Flesh-eater Courts and Gloomspite Gitz to your games. In fact, pretty soon they’ll be joined by even more warbands…

Those are some good looking chaos warriors, some good stuff.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I hope they get card packs!

The fact that the stats are not included in this book, but their quests are, seems to indicate that there will be a card release upcoming - otherwise, they would've included the stats with the quests in its own book.

The question is... which 15 new warbands? Here's a list off the top of my head of what Warcry currently lacks...
1. Spire Tyrants
2. Scions of Flame
3. Stormcast (the regular ones)
4. Stormcast (the magic ones)
5. Sylvaneth
6. Karadron Overlords
7. Fyreslayers
8. Cities of Sigmar?
9. Ossiarch Bonereapers
10. Slaanesh
11. Nurgle
12. Khorne
13. Tzeentch
14. Mawtribes
15. Slaves to Darkness (could be Spire Tyrants?)
16. Skaven
17. Beasts of Chaos

 Ghaz wrote:
From the Eightfold Reasons You Need the Tome of Champions article on Warhammer Community:

No fewer than 15 new warbands are approaching the Bloodwind Spoil, from across all four Grand Alliances. In the Tome of Champions, you’ll get your first look at which factions are coming to Warcry – and an awesome campaign for each one.

Spoiler:

Mmmmm more Warcry. Bring me the Fyreslayers and Duardin!!!!

 Sqorgar wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I hope they get card packs!

The fact that the stats are not included in this book, but their quests are, seems to indicate that there will be a card release upcoming - otherwise, they would've included the stats with the quests in its own book.

The question is... which 15 new warbands? Here's a list off the top of my head of what Warcry currently lacks...
1. Spire Tyrants
2. Scions of Flame
3. Stormcast (the regular ones)
4. Stormcast (the magic ones)
5. Sylvaneth
6. Karadron Overlords
7. Fyreslayers
8. Cities of Sigmar?
9. Ossiarch Bonereapers
10. Slaanesh
11. Nurgle
12. Khorne
13. Tzeentch
14. Mawtribes
15. Slaves to Darkness (could be Spire Tyrants?)
16. Skaven
17. Beasts of Chaos

Soulblight -so much Soulblight needed Drools over the thought of a boxed set of few Vampire lords and ladies and their retainers.

Just read and enjoyed "The Measure of Iron" - be good to have rules for slaves and such - most of the Iron Golem's support staff- healers, cooks etc are slaves.

Slaves to Darkness won't be in there because they are already in the game; just broken down into the different Chaos Warbands instead of as a single army like the rest.

 Overread wrote:
Slaves to Darkness won't be in there because they are already in the game; just broken down into the different Chaos Warbands instead of as a single army like the rest.

I feel we'll see the classic Chaos Warriors make an appearance in Warcry as a Chaos equivalent of the Stormcast warband. We may even see the mounted Chaos Knights show up (got to make use of that 'Mount' runemark somewhere ).