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2022/05/08 13:07:11
Subject: Re:Warcry (AoS) News & Rumours - Horns of Hashut and Centaurion Marshal pg 106
I totally understand some disappointment but I hope that what we’re getting is a Legions of Hashut army that contains not just chaos dwarfs, but also Horns of Hashut, hobgrotz, those bull centaur fellas and more.
Not sure how good the odds of that are in the foreseeable future. We know the Horns are in the Slaves to Darkness battletome slated for the end of the year. Is there any instance of the same unit featuring in multiple battletomes?
Chaos Spawn appear in 3; Beasts of Chaos (it can choose to have a Mark of one of the gods), Slaves to Darkness (it must choose a Mark, or Undivided), Disciples of Tzeentch (no additional rule as it's automarked Tzeentch).
Wouldn't be beyond the pale for Horns of Hashut to appear in a Legions Battletome with the addition of a keyword as the only difference, or I could see it simply being FAQ'd to alter the Slaves warscroll to have the additional keyword
2022/05/08 15:14:32
Subject: Warcry (AoS) News & Rumours - Horns of Hashut and Centaurion Marshal pg 106
Kanluwen wrote: They literally said that the Horns of Hashut are the scouts for the Legions of Hashut.
Rather than just going "Well ackchyually!" and making excuses for/defending everything GW does can you please accept that some people might be annoyed that GW is finally giving attention to the legions of Hashut, but made them humans rather than AoS Chaos Dwarfs? Do you think you have the capacity for such an act?
First step is iggy. Failing that, the second step is deletion of account.
The mods permit and encourage the idiocy, and when engaged, youre the one who gets moderated.
I am a firm believer that the only way to win is to not play the game. Ive already contacted Legoburner about deletion of my own account. He is kind enough to await verification of intent.
We can vote with our presence and words as much as we can vote with our dollars.
Silence and absence can be a loud protest when used well. The funny part are those who continue to run their mouths long after you have turned your back and left.
Its not an airport, you don't need to announce your departure. If you wanna go then just stop posting, none of us even know who you are.
I mostly agree with your stance, up until your last sentence.
You seem to think me stating my opinion is to be taken as an attack directed against you judging by that parting remark.
Youve stated that it's less important about what you say, than who you are. Thats the very definition of ad hominem.
Judging by what I've seen you contribute, thats on brand for Captain Argument from Authority. One good turn deserves another.
Not that this matters much to me, or anyone else obviously. Its that sort of blinkered ignorance that goes unmoderated which gives the reputation that precedes this site. Your comment wont be moderated, but this one certainly will be, which illustrates merely one problem.
~ Nemo
I think he more means that no one is going to come after you if you stop posting here. You stop posting, the site and world move on.
Indeed many people come and go over the years for all kinds of reasons and most users find it easier just to stop posting/drift away and then drift back under the same account than to delete accounts when leaving.
Kanluwen wrote: They literally said that the Horns of Hashut are the scouts for the Legions of Hashut.
Rather than just going "Well ackchyually!" and making excuses for/defending everything GW does can you please accept that some people might be annoyed that GW is finally giving attention to the legions of Hashut, but made them humans rather than AoS Chaos Dwarfs? Do you think you have the capacity for such an act?
First step is iggy. Failing that, the second step is deletion of account.
The mods permit and encourage the idiocy, and when engaged, youre the one who gets moderated.
I am a firm believer that the only way to win is to not play the game. Ive already contacted Legoburner about deletion of my own account. He is kind enough to await verification of intent.
We can vote with our presence and words as much as we can vote with our dollars.
Silence and absence can be a loud protest when used well. The funny part are those who continue to run their mouths long after you have turned your back and left.
Its not an airport, you don't need to announce your departure. If you wanna go then just stop posting, none of us even know who you are.
I mostly agree with your stance, up until your last sentence.
You seem to think me stating my opinion is to be taken as an attack directed against you judging by that parting remark.
Youve stated that it's less important about what you say, than who you are. Thats the very definition of ad hominem.
Judging by what I've seen you contribute, thats on brand for Captain Argument from Authority. One good turn deserves another.
Not that this matters much to me, or anyone else obviously. Its that sort of blinkered ignorance that goes unmoderated which gives the reputation that precedes this site. Your comment wont be moderated, but this one certainly will be, which illustrates merely one problem.
~ Nemo
No, really, none of us know who you are. It's just a statement of fact, reinforcing that there is no social obligation. If anything your posts here read as far more hostile than his, definitely sway more toward ad hominem, and are certainly off topic. The mods aren't perfect but this is hardly an example.
Can't even tell what the 'trigger' for all this is. It simply has nothing to do with Warcry, or honestly with anyone posting in this thread. Just let whatever it is die.
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2022/05/09 13:27:44
Subject: Warcry (AoS) News & Rumours - Horns of Hashut and Centaurion Marshal pg 106
Kanluwen wrote: They literally said that the Horns of Hashut are the scouts for the Legions of Hashut.
Rather than just going "Well ackchyually!" and making excuses for/defending everything GW does can you please accept that some people might be annoyed that GW is finally giving attention to the legions of Hashut, but made them humans rather than AoS Chaos Dwarfs? Do you think you have the capacity for such an act?
First step is iggy. Failing that, the second step is deletion of account.
The mods permit and encourage the idiocy, and when engaged, youre the one who gets moderated.
I am a firm believer that the only way to win is to not play the game. Ive already contacted Legoburner about deletion of my own account. He is kind enough to await verification of intent.
We can vote with our presence and words as much as we can vote with our dollars.
Silence and absence can be a loud protest when used well. The funny part are those who continue to run their mouths long after you have turned your back and left.
Its not an airport, you don't need to announce your departure. If you wanna go then just stop posting, none of us even know who you are.
I mostly agree with your stance, up until your last sentence.
You seem to think me stating my opinion is to be taken as an attack directed against you judging by that parting remark.
Youve stated that it's less important about what you say, than who you are. Thats the very definition of ad hominem.
Judging by what I've seen you contribute, thats on brand for Captain Argument from Authority. One good turn deserves another.
Not that this matters much to me, or anyone else obviously. Its that sort of blinkered ignorance that goes unmoderated which gives the reputation that precedes this site. Your comment wont be moderated, but this one certainly will be, which illustrates merely one problem.
~ Nemo
So you change your account name, but continue down the same path.....
Back on topic of Horns of Hashut. I would like the Chaos Dwarves to return. I would rather the Horns of Hashut having been Chaos Dwarves, or Hob-goblin as they had been part of the old Chaos dwarf forces. To me this just seems like someone at GW heard two groups of people shouting out "When are we getting Chaos Dwarves?" and "When will humans become an army in their own right again?" and decided they could maim two birds with one lump of plastic.
LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14
2022/05/15 17:18:35
Subject: Re:Warcry (AoS) News & Rumours - Horns of Hashut and Centaurion Marshal pg 106
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2022/05/15 19:03:20
Subject: Warcry (AoS) News & Rumours - Horns of Hashut and Centaurion Marshal pg 106
Hm, I have 2 of each of those warbands that I was looking to sell, probably shouldn't have been so lazy about it, but at least now I have a good price basis for comparison.
CoALabaer wrote: Wargamers hate two things: the state of the game and change.
2022/05/23 15:02:36
Subject: Re:Warcry (AoS) News & Rumours - Horns of Hashut and Centaurion Marshal pg 106
ImAGeek wrote: I quite like it. Maybe not Chaos? As DaveC says, they aren’t in the Slaves to Darkness tome, but the Horns of Hashut are.
I’m thinking they are part of the Maggotkin instead. Perhaps GW is finally doing something with all the set up for the Order of the Fly that Josh Reynolds did. Those they are based in Ghyran these appears to be their Ghur cousins - and as a way for Maggotkin to get Mortals
I really like WarCry’s designs. None of them feel not-Chaos, but you can tell the design team have greater freedom to go a bit more out there.
For me, that deepens the appeal of Chaos as a whole. If you recall, the Norse/Marauders of the Old World worshipped Chaos, but weren’t necessarily frothing maniacs. Kind of “CofE” Chaos Worshippers, as opposed to Westboro “yip yip wibble pants on head insane” Chaos Worshippers.
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zamerion wrote: The GW newsletter said that they are from Nurgle, and a new expansion, not edition :(
Nurgle's servants wade into the Realm of Beasts in the next big Warcry expansion. Get a first look at these marsh-dwelling marauders.
Good I'll take a Red Harvest style box rather than a second edition, the game needs a few fixes but not a new edition. The Rotmire Creed will probably end up in Maggotkin?
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zamerion wrote: The GW newsletter said that they are from Nurgle, and a new expansion, not edition :(
Nurgle's servants wade into the Realm of Beasts in the next big Warcry expansion. Get a first look at these marsh-dwelling marauders.
Good I'll take a Red Harvest style box rather than a second edition, the game needs a few fixes but not a new edition. The Rotmire Creed will probably end up in Maggotkin?
Truth. It doesn't need the rewrite for the sake of rewrite that usually happens for an edition. It's good where it is.
There's a decent chance I'll buy a combo box of these guys and hashut warband. The previous box only had the a few darkoath warband members i was interested in getting, and frankly it's not even worth buying the teams individually, as much as I may want not-Conan.
One thing to note is that many of the current Warcry Warbands aren't bound to a single Chaos God.
Yes many of them clearly would lean closer toward one or two of the gods more than the others, but they are all basically independent. The idea being that they've each got their own little gods who are, in reality, just fronts for Greater Demons to pretend to be lesser gods to get the worship of the people.
So its fully possible for two local tribes of the same faction to be worshipping their own god, but behind the scenes one is worshipping a Lord of Change and the other a Bloodthirster.
The Slaves to Darkness novella from the first wave of them also gave a really neat showing of how Tribes who are more aware of the demons they follow; are more apt to have standards for those gods/demons to rise too. Ergo if their Greater Demon isn't upholding their end, they will be tempted by others more openly. It introduced a neat dynamic of power whereby these mortals were still damned for worshipping Chaos; but at the same time were not all the "blind" devotees.
Rihgu wrote: No buboes/sign of mutation makes me think these are either Order or Destruction aligned.
Waaaay less likely to be Destruction aligned, though.
He has zits, they're just not painted in.
To me they look like mosquito bites. Either way, I think the model is pretty cool and should be fun to paint using Contrast paints. Not big fan of the stilts though.
This model looks like it could benefit from more exotic basing. I may have to consider picking up a 3D printer and bucketloads of Epic Basing STL's.
That place is the harsh dark future far left with only war left.
zamerion wrote: The GW newsletter said that they are from Nurgle, and a new expansion, not edition :(
Nurgle's servants wade into the Realm of Beasts in the next big Warcry expansion. Get a first look at these marsh-dwelling marauders.
Good I'll take a Red Harvest style box rather than a second edition, the game needs a few fixes but not a new edition. The Rotmire Creed will probably end up in Maggotkin?
Truth. It doesn't need the rewrite for the sake of rewrite that usually happens for an edition. It's good where it is.
Agreed, a few rough edges but generally speaking the core rules are brilliant. Nothing needed that couldn't be done with an eratta IMO, the main thing missing from the core rules is a proper campaign system--that they added later as the Trial of Champions rules.
Also, super excited on seeing that model. Really hyped to see more.
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Carlovonsexron wrote: I'm hoping that with Hashut coming out to play that there will be a bigger lean on actual minor gods of chaos.
Because honestly Chaos has always seemed far too orderly with every thing divided so neatly between the big 4.
Far as AoS lore is right now there are 5 Chaos Gods
Khorne, Nurgle, Tzeentch, Slaanesh and the Great Horned Rat
Of them the first four are native to the Realm of Chaos, with their realms being full of demons who are all facets of the greater whole of the Patron god. Meanwhile when they interact with the Mortal Realms its mostly though Greater and Exalted Greater demons influencing the peoples. So the minor gods appear there, basically as lies from the Four core chaos gods.
The last group is not native to the Chaos Realm, but kind of bought his way in at the end of the Old World. The Great Horned Rat also differs in that his worshippers don't go to Chaos when they die; instead their souls go down to the Realm of the Dead and a regular normal (if skaven style) underlife/world. Not that this is one of the few that resists the invasions and attempts by Nagash, to take them over.
Rihgu wrote: No buboes/sign of mutation makes me think these are either Order or Destruction aligned.
Waaaay less likely to be Destruction aligned, though.
Apparently the email GW sent out says:
Skirmish in the Swamp
Nurgle's servants wade into the Realm of Beasts in the next big Warcry expansion. Get a first look at these marsh-dwelling marauders.