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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/04/15/big-community-survey-2019-english/

He who does not fill out the survey, may he not complain about things he wants to see fixed in the game.

As a little bit of activism for my own pet want:

I think it would be a cool thing to have an automatically updated source of rules that you could pay a subscription fee to get access to all the rules content GW puts out, rather than having to have a ton of printed books with you when you want to play and FAQs you have to cross-reference.

the_scotsman wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/04/15/big-community-survey-2019-english/

He who does not fill out the survey, may he not complain about things he wants to see fixed in the game.

As a little bit of activism for my own pet want:

I think it would be a cool thing to have an automatically updated source of rules that you could pay a subscription fee to get access to all the rules content GW puts out, rather than having to have a ton of printed books with you when you want to play and FAQs you have to cross-reference.

Well it didn't tell me anything when I hit the last "OK" button, but I'm not going to redo the entire thing - I'll just assume it went through and got caught in the ad blocker or something.

Oof that was long

Well, completed the survey with as much detail as I could possibly include. I find it important to let Games Workshop know the areas I think they've being doing really well in (such as the new models, the engagement and the effort to adapt) as well as the areas they've been pretty bad in. Either way, now that it's complete I can go back to, what many here would call, whinging. I've earned it.

Unlike last time, I really doubt there will be a massive amount of people requesting something like plastic Sisters.

I was inclined to ask for an official BattleScribe type tool that shows all relevant rules for list building, from relics to warlord traits to chapter tactics and data sheets.

And for them to use it as a way to update data sheets rather than just balancing via points all the time.

I just asked for a single digital source for rules, so I don't need to carry vigilus, the BRB, and 3 codex plus any FAQ's just to play. Very annoying.

That and plastic dropper bottles for layer paints is all I want.

Mine popped up with a "thanks for taking this survey" kind of thing from Survey Monkey (an in-window pop-up).

I suggested they do something that CGL's beeing doing, to great sucess, of offering combo hardcopy digital packages for a discount, it's an easy way to get an extra 10-20 bucks out of someone who'd otherwise only purhse in one format. but also likely to be a pretty popular thing with the player base

Filled out.

I also emphasised the benefit of digitising all rules to ensure that balancing can be best achieved in the game through continual, instantaneous, and universally accessible updating of rules and points values. Would that it were so.

I gave some honest feedback:

* Better proofreading/quality control
* Better internal/external balance between tomes/codexes
* More themed terrain for AOS around the realms
* Better terrain rules for 40k
* Examples/guidelines to approach someone with the idea of playing Open Play to alleviate the imbalance concerns.

Way too long. Did it. Nothing will happen.

The only real feedback I gave them was that - despite excellent quality of their miniatures, I'm less and less inclined to continue purchasing new GW products as the prices are just more than I find reasonable for the products I'm getting. I also mentioned that while I considered getting my nephew into 40K...it's simply something I won't attempt because short of eBaying used miniatures, as an 11 year old there's almost nothing he can afford to "start an army", etc.

I commented on startup cost and on cost of books.

It's too expensive to get into the hobby; which is a major stumbling block. As a existing player, the prices aren't particularly bad if I buy a new toy tank every month or two. A prospective new player, though, is looking at an outlay of $300-$500 for miniatures and another $150 for books just to start playing the game at a minimum level, which is pretty overall unreasonable for starting a hobby. Well, it's actually not unreasonable for an adult, but it's very unreasonable for a high schooler or middle schooler, and it's kids who are important here when it comes to getting new players.

Also on tank guns not really being noticeably superior to infantry carried at guns, my personal pet peeve.

Yep, that's more or less my main issue. As an adult I can find eBay sales, discounts, split stuff, and I can buy old models and refurb them etc. My nephew, who is 11, is interested in 40K and I've even put together some old used marines for him. But there isn't a single product he can go into the GW store and buy with his allowance/money he earns doing housework/chores, etc.

A 10-man squad of marines at $60 might as well be $200 for a young kid. I'm not saying I can't help him out and go through the normal routes...but it ruins the whole thing if we can't drive over to the local GW and have him actually pick something out and buy it with his own money (there's a definite pride in doing so).

It's just wildly out of reach for anyone without a consistern source of income, etc. Even if a kid can't build an army...a few miniatures would be ideal (something I genuinely think was bad about losing the ability to buy a blister of miniatures etc.).

I commented on cost being too high for play.
Painting app is fantastic.
Points should be doubled for more wiggle room.
GK are struggling.
And marines don't feel like marines.
And CA should have all point values

Yeah, as others here have mentioned, I’ve gone out of my way to NOT recommend friends and associates to get into GW’s games because there are simply too many other inexpensive (at least on start-up) games and hobbies to get into.

Frankly, the only reason I still buy anything GW is habit, and I still often find myself contemplating how much more I could get for my other hobbies if I didn’t buy into GW stuff. As a result, my GW purchases these days are a mere fraction of my hobby dollars.

 Desubot wrote:
Oof that was long

Yes - be warned. It is extensive.


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 Xenomancers wrote:
Way too long. Did it. Nothing will happen.

Just like Sisters didn't happen?


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 Elbows wrote:
The only real feedback I gave them was that - despite excellent quality of their miniatures, I'm less and less inclined to continue purchasing new GW products as the prices are just more than I find reasonable for the products I'm getting. I also mentioned that while I considered getting my nephew into 40K...it's simply something I won't attempt because short of eBaying used miniatures, as an 11 year old there's almost nothing he can afford to "start an army", etc.

I told them I'm not touching the new Chaos Terminators until there is an upgrade sprue to equip them appropriately. I don't find the cost terribly worrisome, but it would be nice to see price rises slow a bit.

I requested plastic Daemon Primarchs for the ones still unpublished.

I hope everyone remembers to tell them;

1. Everything is overpriced
2. Include free digital codex with physical version
3. For the love of god, bring back Pariahs

I also commented on the cost and I think it's gonna be a recurring theme this time around

My “least favorite things about GW”:

- The lack of transparency, and the lack of sustainability of the various range and armies. No way to know how much support an army is going to get in the support. Some armies may be neglected for decades (Sisters of Battle), some might be completely abandoned (Kroot mercenaries, Dogs of War for WFB), some entire game system may disappear.
- The new 40k lore, which focus way too much on being a story instead of being a setting. I don't want to play subfactions (chapters, regiment, craftworld, …) and characters that were created and designed by GW, I want them to give me rules and inspiration to create my own. All 40k lore should be about fleshing up more different aspect of the setting, not an advancing story with a few characters that influence the whole setting! And I especially dislike the fleshing out and the return of primarchs (old legends are so more interesting as legends than as actual characters), and the return of technological advancement through primaris marine, which remove the quite unique and very interesting theme of technological decay from 40k.
- Please please please stop keeping the name in English in the middle of French texts, at least when the translation already exist in the real world! I don't mind if genestealers stay genestealers, but commissars should be commissaires!!!
- Profile creep, i.e. the profile of new weapons being way stronger than old weapons. For instance, the new Chaos rotor cannon being so much stronger than a heavy bolter, while the weapon is about the same size, even if balanced by point cost, make the heavy bolter seem like a WEAK weapon…


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Yeah, that is pretty long. It was a bit weird to ask if you played a game and if you said no to not get asked why. The actual site is a bit annoying wedging it in a small box too. And asked endlessly about tournaments which I'm just not interested in.

Still, asked for the various things I'd like to see, so hopefully that's collected, they responded very positively last year.

(I asked for loads... digital WD coming back, another MTO run of Diaz seekers, Primaris traditional squads, an end to realms in AOS, living digital rulebooks, an Emperor's Children dex, expanding and bringing back the interesting FW ranges (Renegade Millitia especially), more cultists, the Necromunda gangs to get packs of lasguns for use in 40k, more mixed gender ranges and easing up on the no model/no rules thing for trivial conversions or accessory sprues.)

 Desubot wrote:
Oof that was long

And yet it still managed to be extremely light on detail/specifics.

Done.

I encouraged more/better terrain rules and also the inclusion/encouragement of more scratch-building of terrain articles.

Also mentioned the prices, in particular for some of the individual models they've released recently.


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Cynista wrote:

3. For the love of god, bring back Pariahs

Argh! I should have said that, too!

Personally, I have very little issue with anything since the turn around in management. I probably should have asked for a digital code to be supplied with hard copies...but other than that, I just want my Daemon Primarchs. They already granted my request from last year’s survey (release new Slaanesh Daemons/Keeper of Secrets).

Some of the questions were more obtuse than they needed to be. For example I only buy a WD if there are rules in it, yet had to rate the other content as if I had an interest in it. IDK how any print magazine makes money these days, let alone one as specialized as WD.

Similarly, I don't set aside an hour a week to play a GW video game. If there is a cool one out I'll play it for a while, and might even reinstall it some day.

My one thing I didn't like about Warhammer was "nearly everything about AoS"

I asked for Power Armor/elite units to be more powerful than they are compared to cheap regular troopers.

I told them that I was ready for 40K 9E, and that I hoped they would keep the streamlining from 8E while fixing the things that didn't work out as well, such as the auras and broken weapons (broken including but not limited to random shots replacing templates).

Glad to see so many echoing the sentiment of getting prices at a point that the target audience can participate in.

I've had a lot of success introducing kids to the idea of the game but then their parents balk at the prices.

There's something to be said for when we were kids and we could actually purchase individual blisters with money we had, and it was a lot easier to talk our parents into impulse purchases.

Had to beg for updated Seraphon though. I still wish for some sort of enlightened Space Slann that could go the cross game compatible route of daemons.

That or a Lost & the Damned equivalent for crazy xeno races.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Glad to see so many echoing the sentiment of getting prices at a point that the target audience can participate in.

Not just that, but getting prices to a point where they don't appear to have been decided upon using a random number generator.

The Officio Praefectus Commissar is £12.50
Severina Raine is £20.00
the METAL Commissar with Power Fist is £8.20
The resin Lord Commissar is £9.50
Yarrick is £11.00

Wut???

 Lord Damocles wrote:

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Glad to see so many echoing the sentiment of getting prices at a point that the target audience can participate in.

Not just that, but getting prices to a point where they don't appear to have been decided upon using a random number generator.

The Officio Praefectus Commissar is £12.50
Severina Raine is £20.00
the METAL Commissar with Power Fist is £8.20
The resin Lord Commissar is £9.50
Yarrick is £11.00

Wut???

I brought up prices because there's an obvious creep in cost for models. It's getting expensive. $40 for a single model