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Are we even sure that's actually a contrast paint promo image and not just the artist's personal portfolio of stuff she's done in the past or something?

Of course, nobody is going to come to your house and make sure you only use contrast paints and no others on your miniatures. So I'm not sure why it matters? I mean, I can't get the same results the eavy metal team get with the regular paints either, that doesn't mean the paints are garbage.

 Albino Squirrel wrote:
Of course, nobody is going to come to your house and make sure you only use contrast paints and no others on your miniatures. So I'm not sure why it matters? I mean, I can't get the same results the eavy metal team get with the regular paints either, that doesn't mean the paints are garbage.

It might not be garbage, but it also does not appear to have fundamentally new qualities compared to already existing products. I'm actually concerned that this may well become an expensive crutch for many novice painters.

Only time will tell and I'm hoping for the best, but the results so far are not very convincing.

 Ratius wrote:
More importantly however: Who is that shady-looking cat creature lurking behind the laptop?

Probably https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maneki-neko

 BertBert wrote:

 Albino Squirrel wrote:
Of course, nobody is going to come to your house and make sure you only use contrast paints and no others on your miniatures. So I'm not sure why it matters? I mean, I can't get the same results the eavy metal team get with the regular paints either, that doesn't mean the paints are garbage.

It might not be garbage, but it also does not appear to have fundamentally new qualities compared to already existing products. I'm actually concerned that this may well become an expensive crutch for many novice painters.

Only time will tell and I'm hoping for the best, but the results so far are not very convincing.

I think it’ll more be a ‘crutch’ for people who don’t like painting, who otherwise might not even paint. If people enjoy painting, they’ll improve and learn new techniques and stuff. Just like new painters do now.

Plus, if it has nothing new over existing products, why would it become a crutch to new painters any more than anything now does?

What does "crutch" mean here, other than "a technique I look down on"?

The story of my painting technique improvement over the last decade or more is how to paint faster; I'm really looking forward to these.

 ImAGeek wrote:


Plus, if it has nothing new over existing products, why would it become a crutch to new painters any more than anything now does?

Oh, it would not be the only crutch. "Just slap some Nuln Oil on [insert base color]" has become a staple advice for beginners. It's not going to be a disaster either, just not the kind of product I'd like to see.
GW miniatures are rather expensive and I just don't agree with the notion that painting them quick and easy to the detriment of quality is a good approach. YMMV, of course.

 AndrewGPaul wrote:
What does "crutch" mean here, other than "a technique I look down on"?

The story of my painting technique improvement over the last decade or more is how to paint faster; I'm really looking forward to these.

It means people will have to rely on a certain product in order to produce reasonable results as opposed to getting better at painting. Time is definitely a factor, but I personally value quality much higher.

I disagree with your supposition that these new paints will prevent people from improving. After all, they're not a replacement, the current paints and all GW's tutorial material will still be available, so the sky won't fall.

Anyway, I would argue that this new option will result in a higher quality of army than using more time-consuming methods. One or two painted miniatures amongst a sea of naked plastic is a very poor standard of painting, after all.

 BertBert wrote:

 Albino Squirrel wrote:
Of course, nobody is going to come to your house and make sure you only use contrast paints and no others on your miniatures. So I'm not sure why it matters? I mean, I can't get the same results the eavy metal team get with the regular paints either, that doesn't mean the paints are garbage.

It might not be garbage, but it also does not appear to have fundamentally new qualities compared to already existing products. I'm actually concerned that this may well become an expensive crutch for many novice painters.

Only time will tell and I'm hoping for the best, but the results so far are not very convincing.

If novice painters end up relying on this, then it obviously does have new qualities compared to already existing products. Otherwise those novice painters would already be using those existing products as a crutch. Honestly, you're not really making any sense. It sounds like just being upset that somebody else might get decent results without working as hard as you do.

 AndrewGPaul wrote:
One or two painted miniatures amongst a sea of naked plastic is a very poor standard of painting, after all.

Can't disagree with that. On the other hand, I'd rather leave my army grey for another month or two in order to get to a decent painting standard first.

 Albino Squirrel wrote:


If novice painters end up relying on this, then it obviously does have new qualities compared to already existing products. Otherwise those novice painters would already be using those existing products as a crutch. Honestly, you're not really making any sense. It sounds like just being upset that somebody else might get decent results without working as hard as you do.

They are already using said products, so the point still stands. The new quality is multiple products being rolled into one, in order to offer a shortcut.

The notion that I might be upset because other people are getting good results is, frankly, insulting. I don't thrive on other people's misery and at the same time I don't see this hobby as a competition. My concerns stem from the nature of the product and the possible implications for newcomers, considering the way it is marketed. I might be completely wrong on this and I hope I am, because I don't have a horse in this race either way.

If I push myself, I can get a unit of 10 - 20 models done in a week. More likely, though, it'll take me twice that. These paints look like I can bash out the same number of models in a weekend.

In 2019 so far I've managed to paint only 46 miniatures. At that rate I'll get a useable army for AoS or the like by the end of the year. :( If these Contrast paints were out at Christmas, I'd have my Daughters of Khaine battalion done and have played a few games by now.

 AndrewGPaul wrote:
If I push myself, I can get a unit of 10 - 20 models done in a week. More likely, though, it'll take me twice that. These paints look like I can bash out the same number of models in a weekend.

In 2019 so far I've managed to paint only 46 miniatures. At that rate I'll get a useable army for AoS or the like by the end of the year. :( If these Contrast paints were out at Christmas, I'd have my Daughters of Khaine battalion done and have played a few games by now.

I dream of being able to paint 46 minis in a year. I think last year I finished around 10

I’m interested to give these a go to see what they can do in conjunction with standard painting techniques.

 BertBert wrote:

 AndrewGPaul wrote:
One or two painted miniatures amongst a sea of naked plastic is a very poor standard of painting, after all.

Can't disagree with that. On the other hand, I'd rather leave my army grey for another month or two in order to get to a decent painting standard first.

 Albino Squirrel wrote:


If novice painters end up relying on this, then it obviously does have new qualities compared to already existing products. Otherwise those novice painters would already be using those existing products as a crutch. Honestly, you're not really making any sense. It sounds like just being upset that somebody else might get decent results without working as hard as you do.

They are already using said products, so the point still stands. The new quality is multiple products being rolled into one, in order to offer a shortcut.

The notion that I might be upset because other people are getting good results is, frankly, insulting. I don't thrive on other people's misery and at the same time I don't see this hobby as a competition. My concerns stem from the nature of the product and the possible implications for newcomers, considering the way it is marketed. I might be completely wrong on this and I hope I am, because I don't have a horse in this race either way.

Some people don't have that time luxury. If this helps them get their models to the table at a decent standard they like, that shouldn't be an issue.

Been thinking about these new paints for a while now and i recon it's good we have access to them.
Of course, taking time and doing it 'properly' will produce better results but you have to admit that if you only get a small amount of time to yourself each week these will be an absolute necessity.


I can also see them getting more people into the game since the skill level in having an impressive looking force has been reduced to 'keeping it between the lines' like a painting by numbers book; however i also see the inaccuracies it can have (pooling on large flat upper surfaces for example) triggering an interest in proper paint to 'fix' those instances.

My personal perspective is now i would be willing to try an ork or khorne daemon army now; i'm also annoyed that i'm half-way through normally painting 130+ stormtroopers when they release this stuff but i am cheered by the base coat in a pot so now the faces i produce might actually look like skin tones

Was there a good high quality picture of the shelves with the pots + 2 miniatures painted in that color?
The only ones I have seen were either blurry or only showed a small portion.

Trying to plan if I can paint my upcoming GSC horde with them.

 Ordana wrote:
Was there a good high quality picture of the shelves with the pots + 2 miniatures painted in that color?
The only ones I have seen were either blurry or only showed a small portion.

Trying to plan if I can paint my upcoming GSC horde with them.

This is about the best I've seen

https://bit.ly/2X2Xxae

EDIT: Sorted thanks Ghaz

 DaveC wrote:

 Ordana wrote:
Was there a good high quality picture of the shelves with the pots + 2 miniatures painted in that color?
The only ones I have seen were either blurry or only showed a small portion.

Trying to plan if I can paint my upcoming GSC horde with them.

This is about the best I've seen

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There you go

To me they just look like another "dipped" model. Nothing special

 quickfuze wrote:
To me they just look like another "dipped" model. Nothing special

That is essentially the point of the product, though.

 DaveC wrote:

 Ordana wrote:
Was there a good high quality picture of the shelves with the pots + 2 miniatures painted in that color?
The only ones I have seen were either blurry or only showed a small portion.

Trying to plan if I can paint my upcoming GSC horde with them.

This is about the best I've seen

https://bit.ly/2X2Xxae

EDIT: Sorted thanks Ghaz

Suppose it's mildly useful for the hues (although most colours only really show up in the recesses), but those space marines must be among the worst figures to demonstrate these paints on! Any and all pictures in the thread so far, including those of people trying the contrast paints for the first time, make them look better than those in that display. Messy pooling of the wash part on each and every one of them. Black isn't remotely black either, but the white looks promising...

 Coenus Scaldingus wrote:
Suppose it's mildly useful for the hues (although most colours only really show up in the recesses), but those space marines must be among the worst figures to demonstrate these paints on! Any and all pictures in the thread so far, including those of people trying the contrast paints for the first time, make them look better than those in that display. Messy pooling of the wash part on each and every one of them. Black isn't remotely black either, but the white looks promising...

Space Marines are some of GW's most iconic models and top sellers. People will want to know how the Contrast paints work on Space Marines so there's no sense in avoiding the subject.


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Contrast Paints: Meet the Range on Warhammer Community.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6SBDopWqeU

Another video thats worth watching. I can't say I'm 100% sold on how everything looks, but I imagine we'll get some great tutorials from people once they've been out for a bit

That new website in the making is a much better step than Contrast. Sure, it might end up as part of the marketing for Citadel ("Citadel Colour", duh) and could have some great guides like "to paint this small leather pouch, buy 5 of these paints", but a site for teaching painting like that was long overdue. I remember some free guides they had right where you'd buy the same model long time ago, but they removed that feature. Now there are some links on army pages to youtube channel, but they're very limited in quantity.

A painting video for every Citadel miniature? That's great stuff for people who are new to the hobby.

I will go nuts if you really get that kind of white armor with one coat.

Barbarian is comfortably the besy result out of that lot.

 DaveC wrote:

 Ordana wrote:
Was there a good high quality picture of the shelves with the pots + 2 miniatures painted in that color?
The only ones I have seen were either blurry or only showed a small portion.

Trying to plan if I can paint my upcoming GSC horde with them.

This is about the best I've seen

https://bit.ly/2X2Xxae

EDIT: Sorted thanks Ghaz

Thank you very much

 sockwithaticket wrote:
Barbarian is comfortably the besy result out of that lot.

Both the Tau and the Necron are very impressive.

The Stormcast look absolutely awful, although some of that would be helped with a coat of matte sealer.

 insaniak wrote:
[The Stormcast look absolutely awful, although some of that would be helped with a coat of matte sealer.

Those would be the ones that Peachy did applying the Contrast paint over Leadbelcher or Retributor Armour for a colored metallic effect.

 Ghaz wrote:

 insaniak wrote:
[The Stormcast look absolutely awful, although some of that would be helped with a coat of matte sealer.

Those would be the ones that Peachy did applying the Contrast paint over Leadbelcher or Retributor Armour for a colored metallic effect.

Atleast that blue metal would work great on some weaponry. But yes, those are ugly!

Sotahullu wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

 insaniak wrote:
[The Stormcast look absolutely awful, although some of that would be helped with a coat of matte sealer.

Those would be the ones that Peachy did applying the Contrast paint over Leadbelcher or Retributor Armour for a colored metallic effect.

Atleast that blue metal would work great on some weaponry. But yes, those are ugly!

It's really a bad picture. I'd want to see the results in person before I rule out the technique entirely.