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I'm actually really impressed with those models. You can tell that they were not painted with any sort of delicacy or accuracy, and yet the contrast did all the work beautifully. The eyes around the skeleton, the barrel of the immortal, and little bits and pieces there show that a bit of accuracy will go a long way.

Also, the shine on that stormcast primed in retributor armor looks fantastic. The only other way to get that sort of shine is with a bunch of paints from other lines and using techniques that are a bit different than people might want to pursue. To be able to throw that on and have shiny armor like that is amazing.

I know I am excited about Contrast because I think it will speed up my glacially slow painting.

That said I think this is a product that is absolutely fantastic for people looking to get into the hobby. I have heard many times from gamers of various sorts (including several good friends) that they are interested in miniature gaming, but don't think they could paint a model to any degree of success. I think a product like this could help get gamers to play GW games as they can achieve decent results without a ton of experience.

It also goes along way for GW to be showing models and armies that are tabletop quality and not 'Eavy Metal display quality all the time. I imagine it will do a lot for the confidence of newer hobbyists to see models that look similar to their own in use and not constantly be seeing paint jobs that 95% of us could never hope to obtain.

I am a decent painter and generally not phased by seeing models that are painted to a better standard than my own, but I'll tell you I felt pretty miserable about my abilities when I played Infinity and would see Corvus Belli's display models.

 insaniak wrote:

 sockwithaticket wrote:
Barbarian is comfortably the besy result out of that lot.

Both the Tau and the Necron are very impressive.

The Stormcast look absolutely awful, although some of that would be helped with a coat of matte sealer.

It looks far better than the Stormcast painted by the same guys using similar number of regular paints tho:

 Irbis wrote:

It looks far better than the Stormcast painted by the same guys using similar number of regular paints tho:

Not really, but to each his own

Honestly the stormcast white looks great for a "dirty battle" white. Honestly the marbling effect I think will look great for dirtying up a model like those stormcast or when spread over something like a shell or scales for texture on living flesh.

Its actually refreshing to see GW show quick paintjobs that most people could actually achieve.

Anyone know if pretty much ANY white or grey primer works, or will we need theirs?

These paints won’t replace what I do by a long shot, but I’m REALLY interested in trying out the brighter colors like white and yellow. If they work well, it’ll be a huge time saver for me and open up the color range of my minis.

 dan2026 wrote:
Its actually refreshing to see GW show quick paintjobs that most people could actually achieve.

This.

Mac V wrote:
Anyone know if pretty much ANY white or grey primer works, or will we need theirs?

These paints won’t replace what I do by a long shot, but I’m REALLY interested in trying out the brighter colors like white and yellow. If they work well, it’ll be a huge time saver for me and open up the color range of my minis.

They've said on Facebook you can use other light-colored primers, but the effect won't be quite the same.

The graininess and sheen of the primer make a difference to how the paint flows and soaks in when painting with washes.

In other words, if you use a different primer, hit it with a satin or gloss varnish before using the Contrast.

 Yodhrin wrote:
In other words, if you use a different primer, hit it with a satin or gloss varnish before using the Contrast.

I wonder if there will be a difference between using satin or gloss though.

More podcast than video, but brings up the concerns, as said on this thread, about what if you make a mistake and have to clean things up. Or realize too late that you have to paint the next nineteen models the same complicated way you did the first one...




Pro does pro stuff to Contrast.

 dan2026 wrote:
Its actually refreshing to see GW show quick paintjobs that most people could actually achieve.

amen.

the heavy metal paint jobs look nice but when that's ALL a noobie sees it makes painting a daunting prospect

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:
In other words, if you use a different primer, hit it with a satin or gloss varnish before using the Contrast.

I wonder if there will be a difference between using satin or gloss though.

Gloss will generally increase the pooling effect more than satin, but being as these paints cling more to where you apply them, and you direct it into the recesses, it's hard to say. I imagine I satin would be plenty good enough. You want pigment on the entire surface, not just in the recess. It's almost like a super pigmented glaze that required many less layers.

Contrast: Meet the Range!
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/05/23/contrast-meet-the-rangegw-homepage-post-2fw-homepage-post-2/

Elzender posted this pic. "according to a store chain from Spain, this was done by one of the shoo managers using only contrast paints over a white undercoat (I'm guessing they mean the cream one)." :

I airbrush undercoat most of my models and that goes on very smoothly.

Really excited for these. Hopefully they are up for ordering soon.

How much do people think the sprays and pots are gonna cost?

ced1106 wrote:
Contrast: Meet the Range!
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/05/23/contrast-meet-the-rangegw-homepage-post-2fw-homepage-post-2/

Elzender posted this pic. "according to a store chain from Spain, this was done by one of the shoo managers using only contrast paints over a white undercoat (I'm guessing they mean the cream one)." :

Spoiler:

Oh, hey, I know these guys! I might just have to go there and see that mini in the flesh, so to speak...

New Website for the Citadel paint range

https://citadelcolour.com/

Edit: Nevermind... my reading comprehension is clearly off this morning. :-p

I don’t know on the primer.

Just read from GW the spray primers are dull, and will be available as vase paints. I’m guessing any white paint works now.

I’m guessing the paints may be too thin at the highlights with a gloss undercoat.

Great thing is we have new toys to play with!

The primers look really satin/glossy in comparison to regular primers. You could also apply a coat of gloss or satin varnish over any primer to improve the Contrast paints' flow.

The contrast video on the paint web page is not encouraging. They should have used some other model to demonstrate, large flat surfaces of a space marine are not ideal for this sort of paint. Also, I don't understand why they painted the black over the blue, certainly you're supposed to paint the black directly on the pale base colour? Reapplying the base colour for yellow and grey areas was a weird choice as well, how about just not paint those areas blue to begin with?

But overall it's a start, waiting for them to fulfil the "painting guide for every Citadel miniature" promise.

Citadel palette looks weird to me. Is it just like a paper album of sorts?

Yeah, that video was a real bummer. Paint everything. Basecoat again! Like, what? I bet that with just slightly more control the pooling wouldn't have to be this bad as well,

Glancing at other vids the verdigris and blood ones are also "slather it all over" totally overdoing it and making it the end result way worse than it could be.

Using contrast video is the worst painting guide GW ever done.

I laughed at it a bit. They tell you not to thin it, and to paint it quickly before it begins to dry.... But then they tell you to spread it all over a dry pallet... Then they tell you to hit everything with the primary color so you can go back over it with the base color...

Seemed like they wanted folks to waste paint.

Honestly though the video demoed how these paints are going to work for a beginner. You either need to go painfully slow, or touch up with the base shade along the way. He was just doing the entry level paint job. I'd imagine it is slightly faster starting with the models lightest colors and working toward darkest since errors would be less noticeable, but the paint is billed on it's transparency, if you make mistakes, they are going to show through and touching it up will be trickier then normal if you don't want a noticeable spot. That shouldn't be a deal breaker for fast, get it done and on the table jobs though. But if you want the models to be cleaner your going to need to pick your colors carefully and show some brush control.

 Red Corsair wrote:
I laughed at it a bit. They tell you not to thin it, and to paint it quickly before it begins to dry.... But then they tell you to spread it all over a dry pallet... Then they tell you to hit everything with the primary color so you can go back over it with the base color...

Seemed like they wanted folks to waste paint.

Honestly though the video demoed how these paints are going to work for a beginner. You either need to go painfully slow, or touch up with the base shade along the way. He was just doing the entry level paint job. I'd imagine it is slightly faster starting with the models lightest colors and working toward darkest since errors would be less noticeable, but the paint is billed on it's transparency, if you make mistakes, they are going to show through and touching it up will be trickier then normal if you don't want a noticeable spot. That shouldn't be a deal breaker for fast, get it done and on the table jobs though. But if you want the models to be cleaner your going to need to pick your colors carefully and show some brush control.

Yeah, definitely would rather go back over the gold parts with, y'know, actual gold. And if there's no reason to thin it, then the only reason to put it on a pallet would be to get rid of excess on your brush, not to load it *onto* the pallet first.

Either way, the effect is nice, even if the tutorial is a bit bupkis.

I've got my eye on the Iyanden Yellow for some Imperial Fists, but I'm wondering if one really needs the two base colours they are suggesting. Are they just standard creamy-beigy( "OOOOOoooooooo - The White-ish Knight!" ) and light grey acrylics?