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So consider me a complete noob in terms of AoS, who just ordered himself a shiny Looncurse box. Also assume I might want to build an army of 1000 points for each of the two factions from this set.

What would make sense in terms of lists and purchases? I have no interest in "tournament play", but would prefer to not be a total pushover either.

Sylvaneth, IMO, are going to be a bit of a hard thing to tell you since there's a new book on the horizon.

There was a Community article that gave you two sample armies, based upon the idea of you buying at least two sets.
Those armies are closer to 2k than 1k, but the Gitz can be made into a 1k force out of the Looncurse box and a Mangler Squig.

Allegiance: Gloomspite Gitz

Leaders
Loonboss on Giant Cave Squig (110)
- General
- Moonclan Stabba

Battleline
5 x Squig Hoppers (90)
12 x Squig Herd (140)

Units
5 x Boingrot Bounderz (100)

Behemoths
Mangler Squigs (240)

Battalions
Squig Rider Stampede (140)
Squigalanche (90)

Total: 910 / 1000
Extra Command Points: 3
Allies: 0 / 200
Wounds: 62

With regards to filling it out more? You might want to consider a set of Squig Riders or even a second Looncurse to bolster the unit sizes on the Bounderz and Squig Riders--those are bare minimum unit sizes. The Loonboss on the Giant Cave Squig also has a Moon Cutta(sword) option that he can be built with. GW suggests a Loonboss on Mangler Squig with their list, but it's not really necessary unless you want to go big.

It also has the effect of giving you a second Arch-Revenant(who has a nice warscroll and seems to be sitting at roughly 100pts for the Sylvaneth), a second set of 10 Tree-Revenants(boxes of 5 otherwise for a fairly high pricepoint IMO), and a second set of Kurnoth Hunters.

Hunters, with their new warscroll, seem to be serving as a kind of 'synapse node' almost. If you put a Command Ability on them from your General or a Hero who can put one? It gets to affect Sylvaneth units wholly within a certain range of the Kurnoth Hunters.

Ex: Arch-Revenant uses her Command Ability on a unit of Kurnoth Hunters and you have Tree-Revenants within range of them. The ability then also affects the Tree-Revenants.

I would make your first efforts towards that 1000p Gloomspite gitz list. I"m still expecting a Sylvaneth book somewhere (though I might be mistaken), so I wouldn't go all in on any Sylvaneth list just yet.

When looking at the Gloomspite half of the box, I would look into at least 1 big unit of grots (even though that's a ton of work) and a loonboss on mangler squig (as that is both a kickass model and a really good model in game too).

Thanks for the suggestions so far, helpful for sure.

While there is no SC box for the Gloomspite Gitz so far, I guess the Sylvaneth one would be a useful purchase? And concerning the GG: when can I (roughly) expect them to get a SC set?

Looking at previous new armies, I would probably expect one of those big battleforces for Christmas this year and then a start collecting around march after that. So you're probably looking around a year if the pattern follows.

Sylvaneth one would be a useful purchase for sure. We still don't know how things are going to shake out, so keep that in mind for Sylvaneth.

Elmir's advice about focusing on the Gits really is good.


With regards to Start Collecting sets, it varies wildly. They occasionally have done large 'waves' of SC sets. Tentatively expect one in January/February of 2020 for Gits though.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Sylvaneth one would be a useful purchase for sure. We still don't know how things are going to shake out, so keep that in mind for Sylvaneth...

Though given that one of the things GW felt the need to preview was "We're splitting the Kurnoth Hunters into separate datasheets for different weapons (and rebalancing greatswords a bit)!" I doubt they're changing much.

 AnomanderRake wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Sylvaneth one would be a useful purchase for sure. We still don't know how things are going to shake out, so keep that in mind for Sylvaneth...

Though given that one of the things GW felt the need to preview was "We're splitting the Kurnoth Hunters into separate datasheets for different weapons (and rebalancing greatswords a bit)!" I doubt they're changing much.

Because the battletome+warscroll cards has been delayed and Looncurse contains the new and updated rules for just the Greatbow unit.

The reason why it contains new+updated rules for just the Greatbow unit is because it also contains a Warscroll Battalion that features just them in all likelihood.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Hunters, with their new warscroll, seem to be serving as a kind of 'synapse node' almost. If you put a Command Ability on them from your General or a Hero who can put one? It gets to affect Sylvaneth units wholly within a certain range of the Kurnoth Hunters.

Thats...

1 - not how that rule works.

2 - not a new thing for Kurnoth Hunters.

It basically means units close to the kurnoth hunters are valid targets of command abilities even if the general is normally out of range.

There's actually a lot of common sense changes likely coming in this book. I expect the wargroves are going to be reworked into essentially chapter tactics like other subtribes in other books have done, rather than warscroll batallion capable of encompassing the whole army.

I'll miss being able to set the whole army down in one drop, but it's for the best.

 Captain Joystick wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Hunters, with their new warscroll, seem to be serving as a kind of 'synapse node' almost. If you put a Command Ability on them from your General or a Hero who can put one? It gets to affect Sylvaneth units wholly within a certain range of the Kurnoth Hunters.

Thats...

1 - not how that rule works.

2 - not a new thing for Kurnoth Hunters.

It basically means units close to the kurnoth hunters are valid targets of command abilities even if the general is normally out of range.

Thank you so much for replying to my post from Sunday, when we didn't actually have the updated Warscrolls as functioning PDF links and only had a bit from a stream where they stated that it worked like that.

There's actually a lot of common sense changes likely coming in this book. I expect the wargroves are going to be reworked into essentially chapter tactics like other subtribes in other books have done

Given that the book is now delayed thanks to shipping, it'll be awhile before we know for certain--however we do know that there are two keywords("Household" and "Free Spirits") that will apply, it's not exactly a secret that there are going to be Wargroves covered.

Oh, and we know from the Tree Revenants out of Underworlds that they have a Wargrove keyword instead of a Household one so it looks like it will only apply to certain things.

rather than warscroll batallion capable of encompassing the whole army. I'll miss being able to set the whole army down in one drop, but it's for the best.

Or y'know, you could just run the new warscroll battalions.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Thank you so much for replying to my post from Sunday, when we didn't actually have the updated Warscrolls as functioning PDF links and only had a bit from a stream where they stated that it worked like that.

My bad. I thought the pdfs had come out sooner.

Or y'know, you could just run the new warscroll battalions.

Unless they also have 'Any number of additional Sylvaneth units' at the tail end of the composition list it won't be the same, lol.

 Captain Joystick wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Thank you so much for replying to my post from Sunday, when we didn't actually have the updated Warscrolls as functioning PDF links and only had a bit from a stream where they stated that it worked like that.

My bad. I thought the pdfs had come out sooner.

Nope. It wasn't until Monday or Tuesday that we saw a scan/cell phone pic of the actual Looncurse bit and the app updated...but since the app called Tree-Revenants "Noble Spirits" rather than "Household" like the scans did, it opened up some questions.

Or y'know, you could just run the new warscroll battalions.

Unless they also have 'Any number of additional Sylvaneth units' at the tail end of the composition list it won't be the same, lol.

Oh noes, you'll actually have to do war scroll battalions that aren't just "throw all your crap together and call it a day"!

Good...

I feel like you're taking this a lot more personally than I'm intending it to be...

Your first post was a condescending snipe at a days old post, editing out most of the context and from before we actually had anything, that literally said that it was hard to say what to expect with Sylvaneth since there's supposed to be a new book coming.

Sure felt a bit personal from the outset.

For Sylvaneth, just get SC and an extra box of dryads (or two SC) and you should be pushing 1000pts no problem.

So despite my initial plan being different, for a variety of reasons I changed my mind and have put the Sylvaneth models on 'bay.

The 1000 points list provided by Kanluwen looks like a solid goal to work towards, so I'll invest the 'bay profits into a Mangler Squig. Then get a few games in and look from there.