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2019/05/29 16:54:40
Subject: No overwatch shenanigans, sorry
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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2019/05/29 17:10:03
Subject: No overwatch shenanigans, sorry
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Morally-Flexible Malleus Hearing Whispers
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Haha, now all my DW Vets with Storm hammers and Pistols are invalid. Go Feck yourself Blizzworkshop.
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2019/05/29 17:12:38
Subject: No overwatch shenanigans, sorry
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Powerful Ushbati
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 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:Haha, now all my DW Vets with Storm hammers and Pistols are invalid. Go Feck yourself Blizzworkshop.
Well yielding a two handed hammer and shooting a gun doesn't really make much sense...
Also, what is with the rise in this Blizzworkshop meme, I take it is some kind of stab at the game company Blizzard or something?
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2019/05/29 17:14:42
Subject: No overwatch shenanigans, sorry
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Morally-Flexible Malleus Hearing Whispers
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They used to be able to take a hammer and a pistol, but I misread it, now it only applies to HEAVY thunder hammers. Which makes sense.
Blizzard and GW are the same company. Ever notice how Star Craft is basically ripped straight from Warhammer? I can't remember who owns who, but I feel like GW is the parent company...
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2019/05/29 17:15:09
Subject: No overwatch shenanigans, sorry
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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It shouldn't be, because Blizzard is a much better company.
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2019/05/29 17:15:51
Subject: No overwatch shenanigans, sorry
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Powerful Ushbati
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FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:They used to be able to take a hammer and a pistol, but I misread it, now it only applies to HEAVY thunder hammers. Which makes sense.
Blizzard and GW are the same company. Ever notice how Star Craft is basically ripped straight from Warhammer? I can't remember who owns who, but I feel like GW is the parent company...
Ah. Makes sense. If we're talking two handed, then yea. But for single handed, should be valid.
And no, I don't think they're same company. They're not affiliated in any way. Automatically Appended Next Post:
Um. No. Acti/Blizz gives EA a run for their money in the "I treat my customer like a money dispenser" category.
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2019/05/29 17:17:57
Subject: No overwatch shenanigans, sorry
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Focused Fire Warrior
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The only real relation is that Warcraft was originally supposed to be a Warhammer game, but Games Workshop pulled the license late in the game's production. Blizzard made minor changes and released it as Warcraft. That is why they have a lot of similar stuff.
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2019/05/29 17:19:49
Subject: No overwatch shenanigans, sorry
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Powerful Ushbati
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Well anyways, back on topic, I'm pretty happy I just sold my tau....
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2019/05/29 17:21:08
Subject: No overwatch shenanigans, sorry
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:They used to be able to take a hammer and a pistol, but I misread it, now it only applies to HEAVY thunder hammers. Which makes sense.
Blizzard and GW are the same company. Ever notice how Star Craft is basically ripped straight from Warhammer? I can't remember who owns who, but I feel like GW is the parent company...
Way back years ago GW approached Blizzard to make a game for Warhammer Fantasy Old World. However for whatever reason(s) the two companies fell out and the deal was ended. Blizzard didn't want to throw away the work they'd done on the game, so they changed the story and some key elements and created Warcraft 1.
It was its own separate game, but had some Warhammer influences. When GW then went on to make 40K by basically porting Old World Fantasy into Space; Blizzard copy-catted them somewhat and took their own game into space too.
Heck if you go look at some of the previous generation of Tyranids the new (at the time) ravener was a powerful take on the Hyralisk that Blizzard created..
So they are two very separate totally independent companies that have influenced each other over the years. Remembering that both also source the core of their fantasy lines in Lord of the Rings.
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2019/05/29 17:24:01
Subject: No overwatch shenanigans, sorry
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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"Um. No. Acti/Blizz gives EA a run for their money in the "I treat my customer like a money dispenser" category."
I paid for Starcraft and two expansions over 10 years for a total sum of around 140 bucks. That's a box set of GW.
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2019/05/29 17:27:05
Subject: No overwatch shenanigans, sorry
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Fixture of Dakka
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Dodged a bullet right there. first new FAQ I see that doesn't nerf grey knights. I am very happy.
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If you have to kill, then kill in the best manner. If you slaughter, then slaughter in the best manner. Let one of you sharpen his knife so his animal feels no pain. |
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2019/05/29 17:32:40
Subject: No overwatch shenanigans, sorry
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Martel732 wrote:"Um. No. Acti/Blizz gives EA a run for their money in the "I treat my customer like a money dispenser" category."
I paid for Starcraft and two expansions over 10 years for a total sum of around 140 bucks. That's a box set of GW.
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
Actiblizz is about as damaging to the gaming industry as is EA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRWCr90Lhxw
this f.e, not paying taxes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMAUHXXMHPk
Laying off massive ammounts of emploeeys after the best earnings ever in the companies history.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoS3KdCnbZg
diablo immortal mobile, full of Microtransactions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSpP3Ge-dq0
Microtransaction based Matchmaking.
and that is just the diareahha that jim sterling covered, think of the man what you want but industry bs his nose smells.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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2019/05/29 17:33:08
Subject: No overwatch shenanigans, sorry
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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 Togusa wrote: FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:Haha, now all my DW Vets with Storm hammers and Pistols are invalid. Go Feck yourself Blizzworkshop.
Well yielding a two handed hammer and shooting a gun doesn't really make much sense...
Also, what is with the rise in this Blizzworkshop meme, I take it is some kind of stab at the game company Blizzard or something?
But hacking apart with two handed axe and one handed axe same time makes sense 
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2019/05/29 18:29:05
Subject: No overwatch shenanigans, sorry
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
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Togusa wrote:Well anyways, back on topic, I'm pretty happy I just sold my tau....
Why? What negative happened to tau
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2019/05/29 18:31:06
Subject: No overwatch shenanigans, sorry
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Focused Fire Warrior
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I would guess he would miss getting rerolls when hitting on 5s in Overwatch, but I have never played my T'au Sept using the rerolls in Overwatch and I have been fine.
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2019/05/29 18:31:35
Subject: No overwatch shenanigans, sorry
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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They can no longer piecemeal declare For the Greater Good Overwatch one unit at a time until a charging squad is destroyed.
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2019/05/29 18:31:58
Subject: No overwatch shenanigans, sorry
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
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 Mud Turkey 13 wrote:
I would guess he would miss getting rerolls when hitting on 5s in Overwatch, but I have never played my T'au Sept using the rerolls in Overwatch and I have been fine.
Exactly it really isn’t that much of a change.. Tau are still extremely powerful. Automatically Appended Next Post: Sterling191 wrote:
They can no longer piecemeal declare For the Greater Good Overwatch one unit at a time until a charging squad is destroyed.
It was pretty obvious that’s not how it was meant anyway. It’s still strong. This doesn’t change the tau spot competitive at all honestly.. thank goodness I kept my tau
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2019/05/29 18:36:44
Subject: No overwatch shenanigans, sorry
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:They used to be able to take a hammer and a pistol, but I misread it, now it only applies to HEAVY thunder hammers. Which makes sense.
Blizzard and GW are the same company. Ever notice how Star Craft is basically ripped straight from Warhammer? I can't remember who owns who, but I feel like GW is the parent company...
you're wrong.
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Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two |
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2019/05/29 18:42:49
Subject: No overwatch shenanigans, sorry
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Hey, this is the internet. He doesn't need facts or evidence...he just has to say it.
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2019/05/29 18:46:17
Subject: No overwatch shenanigans, sorry
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Battlefortress Driver with Krusha Wheel
Douglasville, GA
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So, wait... does that mean that Tau *have* to FTGG with every unit in range? Ex: I charge a unit of Firewarriors who have 5 other units within 6". Does every single one of them "burn" their FTGG on my charging unit? That *does* seem like a significant nerd, if so.
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2019/05/29 18:47:36
Subject: No overwatch shenanigans, sorry
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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 flandarz wrote:So, wait... does that mean that Tau *have* to FTGG with every unit in range? Ex: I charge a unit of Firewarriors who have 5 other units within 6". Does every single one of them "burn" their FTGG on my charging unit? That *does* seem like a significant nerd, if so.
Nope, you can still elect to not fire FTTG. You simply have to commit to what you're using FTTG on and potentially run the risk of having some of them fizzle cause the charging unit got wiped.
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2019/05/29 18:48:10
Subject: No overwatch shenanigans, sorry
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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BrianDavion wrote: FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:They used to be able to take a hammer and a pistol, but I misread it, now it only applies to HEAVY thunder hammers. Which makes sense.
Blizzard and GW are the same company. Ever notice how Star Craft is basically ripped straight from Warhammer? I can't remember who owns who, but I feel like GW is the parent company...
you're wrong.
Right? It's astounding the things people will just say without checking for source.
https://kotaku.com/how-warcraft-was-almost-a-warhammer-game-and-how-that-5929161
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2019/05/29 18:50:25
Subject: No overwatch shenanigans, sorry
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Battlefortress Driver with Krusha Wheel
Douglasville, GA
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Ah. That's not nearly as bad. I was like: "So, I can just charge a group of Grots in, eat all that FTGG, then bring in the Boyz after?" Still gonna hafta know your averages pretty well to make sure you're not gonna over or under shoot, but it's not too bad.
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2019/05/29 18:52:24
Subject: No overwatch shenanigans, sorry
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Arch Magos w/ 4 Meg of RAM
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Sterling191 wrote:
They can no longer piecemeal declare For the Greater Good Overwatch one unit at a time until a charging squad is destroyed.
They never could, when you declare overwatch, you always chose who shoots what at the same time. FTGG effectively made it so you could add units to your unit when declaring your shots
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2019/05/29 18:54:00
Subject: No overwatch shenanigans, sorry
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
california
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VladimirHerzog wrote:Sterling191 wrote:
They can no longer piecemeal declare For the Greater Good Overwatch one unit at a time until a charging squad is destroyed.
They never could, when you declare overwatch, you always chose who shoots what at the same time. FTGG effectively made it so you could add units to your unit when declaring your shots
Some people were TFGing it
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2019/05/29 18:58:58
Subject: No overwatch shenanigans, sorry
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
Blizzard and GW are the same company. Ever notice how Star Craft is basically ripped straight from Warhammer? I can't remember who owns who, but I feel like GW is the parent company...
Well, looks like we've found Vince Russo's Dakka account. 
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Games Workshop Delenda Est.
Users on ignore- 53.
If you break apart my or anyone else's posts line by line I will not read them. |
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2019/05/29 19:33:16
Subject: No overwatch shenanigans, sorry
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Not as Good as a Minion
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Let's leave the StarCraft/WH discussion alone, not really on topic. Thanks everyone
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I wish I had time for all the game systems I own, let alone want to own... |
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2019/05/29 19:49:27
Subject: No overwatch shenanigans, sorry
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Mud Turkey 13 wrote:
I would guess he would miss getting rerolls when hitting on 5s in Overwatch, but I have never played my T'au Sept using the rerolls in Overwatch and I have been fine.
What rerolls tau had? All I can recall is marker light but those work as they aren't restricted to specific phase.
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2019/05/29 20:35:36
Subject: No overwatch shenanigans, sorry
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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For myself, glad to see I can circumvent the Armor of russ, annoyed I can't circumvent the Nid Power.
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2019/05/29 20:44:07
Subject: No overwatch shenanigans, sorry
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Reemule wrote:For myself, glad to see I can circumvent the Armor of russ, annoyed I can't circumvent the Nid Power.
Go re-read the new FAQ changes thet litterly just changed it so it effects everything
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