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It seems a bit redundant to post this qustion, since The Mace of Redemption is obviously meant primarily for Interrogator Chaplains. But can they really take it? RAW is that it replaces bearers power maul. A crozius is technically a power maul, but has its own statline and point cost...
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Luusormi wrote: It seems a bit redundant to post this qustion, since The Mace of Redemption is obviously meant primarily for Interrogator Chaplains. But can they really take it? RAW is that it replaces bearers power maul. A crozius is technically a power maul, but has its own statline and point cost...
A Crozius arcanum is not a Power maul. The Mace of Redemption cannot replace a Crozius arcanum.
You can switch his bolt pistol for a power maul though and then chance that one for the Mace.
More expensive and takes away any ranged capability though...
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Thairne wrote: You can switch his bolt pistol for a power maul though and then chance that one for the Mace.
More expensive and takes away any ranged capability though...
And also makes the Crozius redundant, which is a shame. Technically the Mace isn't strictly better due to being d3 damage instead of straight 2, but it maths significantly better against basically everything including 2W models.
Luusormi wrote: It seems a bit redundant to post this qustion, since The Mace of Redemption is obviously meant primarily for Interrogator Chaplains. But can they really take it? RAW is that it replaces bearers power maul. A crozius is technically a power maul, but has its own statline and point cost...
No, the Mace of Redemption has been wielded by chapter masters, not a chaplain, as per lore.
Crozius arcanum is a badge of office that seemingly can be used to smack heretics around. While it is a blunt weapon, it is not a power maul (it utilizes different technology).
Luusormi wrote: It seems a bit redundant to post this qustion, since The Mace of Redemption is obviously meant primarily for Interrogator Chaplains. But can they really take it? RAW is that it replaces bearers power maul. A crozius is technically a power maul, but has its own statline and point cost...
No, the Mace of Redemption has been wielded by chapter masters, not a chaplain, as per lore.
The rules say " The Mace of Redemption replaces this model’s power maul..." (P. 139 Dark Angels Codex)
So you do not have to be a Chapter Master to use it, just any model with a power maul.
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Luusormi wrote: It seems a bit redundant to post this qustion, since The Mace of Redemption is obviously meant primarily for Interrogator Chaplains. But can they really take it? RAW is that it replaces bearers power maul. A crozius is technically a power maul, but has its own statline and point cost...
No, the Mace of Redemption has been wielded by chapter masters, not a chaplain, as per lore.
The rules say " The Mace of Redemption replaces this model’s power maul..." (P. 139 Dark Angels Codex)
So you do not have to be a Chapter Master to use it, just any model with a power maul.
No, you don't. But that isn't what he was insinuating. He was saying that in the lore Chaplains don't use the mace, so it's not incongruous for them to not have the ability to take it.
Luusormi wrote: It seems a bit redundant to post this qustion, since The Mace of Redemption is obviously meant primarily for Interrogator Chaplains. But can they really take it? RAW is that it replaces bearers power maul. A crozius is technically a power maul, but has its own statline and point cost...
No, the Mace of Redemption has been wielded by chapter masters, not a chaplain, as per lore.
The rules say " The Mace of Redemption replaces this model’s power maul..." (P. 139 Dark Angels Codex)
So you do not have to be a Chapter Master to use it, just any model with a power maul.
No, you don't. But that isn't what he was insinuating. He was saying that in the lore Chaplains don't use the mace, so it's not incongruous for them to not have the ability to take it.
But Interrogator Chaplains can take that relic if the trade their bolt pistol for a power maul.
"Did you notice a sign out in front of my chapel that said "Land Raider Storage"?" -High Chaplain Astorath the Grim Redeemer of the Lost.
I sold my soul to the devil and now the bastard is demanding a refund!
We do not have an attorney-client relationship. I am not your lawyer. The statements I make do not constitute legal advice. Any statements made by me are based upon the limited facts you have presented, and under the premise that you will consult with a local attorney. This is not an attempt to solicit business. This disclaimer is in addition to any disclaimers that this website has made.
Luusormi wrote: It seems a bit redundant to post this qustion, since The Mace of Redemption is obviously meant primarily for Interrogator Chaplains. But can they really take it? RAW is that it replaces bearers power maul. A crozius is technically a power maul, but has its own statline and point cost...
No, the Mace of Redemption has been wielded by chapter masters, not a chaplain, as per lore.
The rules say " The Mace of Redemption replaces this model’s power maul..." (P. 139 Dark Angels Codex)
So you do not have to be a Chapter Master to use it, just any model with a power maul.
No, you don't. But that isn't what he was insinuating. He was saying that in the lore Chaplains don't use the mace, so it's not incongruous for them to not have the ability to take it.
But Interrogator Chaplains can take that relic if the trade their bolt pistol for a power maul.
True, but normal Chaplains can't. I think we've branched off into two topics here.
Luusormi wrote: It seems a bit redundant to post this qustion, since The Mace of Redemption is obviously meant primarily for Interrogator Chaplains. But can they really take it? RAW is that it replaces bearers power maul. A crozius is technically a power maul, but has its own statline and point cost...
No, the Mace of Redemption has been wielded by chapter masters, not a chaplain, as per lore.
The rules say " The Mace of Redemption replaces this model’s power maul..." (P. 139 Dark Angels Codex)
So you do not have to be a Chapter Master to use it, just any model with a power maul.
No, you don't. But that isn't what he was insinuating. He was saying that in the lore Chaplains don't use the mace, so it's not incongruous for them to not have the ability to take it.
But Interrogator Chaplains can take that relic if the trade their bolt pistol for a power maul.
True, but normal Chaplains can't. I think we've branched off into two topics here.
Not that he mentioned Interrogator Chaplains in the OP.
Luusormi wrote: It seems a bit redundant to post this qustion, since The Mace of Redemption is obviously meant primarily for Interrogator Chaplains. But can they really take it? RAW is that it replaces bearers power maul. A crozius is technically a power maul, but has its own statline and point cost...
(Emphasis mine)
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"Did you notice a sign out in front of my chapel that said "Land Raider Storage"?" -High Chaplain Astorath the Grim Redeemer of the Lost.
I sold my soul to the devil and now the bastard is demanding a refund!
We do not have an attorney-client relationship. I am not your lawyer. The statements I make do not constitute legal advice. Any statements made by me are based upon the limited facts you have presented, and under the premise that you will consult with a local attorney. This is not an attempt to solicit business. This disclaimer is in addition to any disclaimers that this website has made.
Well, the comment was made with the OP's statement that "mace of redemption is obviously meant primarily for int. chaplains" in mind, that in fact, there's no rules that imply or lore that supports such theory that maces are meant to be a chaplain/int. chaplain's weapon. In other words, there's nothing "obvious" about MoR being meant to be wielded by a chap or int chap.
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