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Unnecessary. While some for sure think BCB is annoyingly persistent in treating each flaw as the same degree of broken he often is right in that they are flaws and they are way more common then they should be. As easy as it is for us to correct the infiltrator flaw, it IS a flaw and should have never been one.

I have a question: the rules say that auras from a model garrisoning a Defensible Terrain feature do not extend beyond the footprint of the Terrain feature. But what about auras from models outside the Terrain feature? I mean, can models in the Terrain feature be affected by auras models from outside? I'm guessing no, but I don't think it's stated anywhere.

OrkPlayer137 wrote:
I have a question: the rules say that auras from a model garrisoning a Defensible Terrain feature do not extend beyond the footprint of the Terrain feature. But what about auras from models outside the Terrain feature? I mean, can models in the Terrain feature be affected by auras models from outside? I'm guessing no, but I don't think it's stated anywhere.

As far as I remember, this is not addressed specifically. However, once a unit is garrisoning the terrain feature, all ranges to and from that unit are measured to and from the nearest edge of the terrain feature. A such, if the terrain feature is in aura range, so is the unit inside.

To be frank, that character must be pretty inspiring to their troops if all the troops are hunkering down in bunkers but the hero dude is right there in the open screaming abuse at the opposing gunline...

Snugiraffe wrote:

OrkPlayer137 wrote:
I have a question: the rules say that auras from a model garrisoning a Defensible Terrain feature do not extend beyond the footprint of the Terrain feature. But what about auras from models outside the Terrain feature? I mean, can models in the Terrain feature be affected by auras models from outside? I'm guessing no, but I don't think it's stated anywhere.

As far as I remember, this is not addressed specifically. However, once a unit is garrisoning the terrain feature, all ranges to and from that unit are measured to and from the nearest edge of the terrain feature. A such, if the terrain feature is in aura range, so is the unit inside.

To be frank, that character must be pretty inspiring to their troops if all the troops are hunkering down in bunkers but the hero dude is right there in the open screaming abuse at the opposing gunline...

Thanks, that's an interesting take on it - probably that is the correct interpretation.

There is neither rule nor reason to treat the range of an aura applied from outside of defensible terrain differently from other ranges, just as @Snugiraffe already stated.

The rule for handling auras from inside Defensible Terrain is needed, because you would otherwise extend the area of effect immensely. If the model would be within an 8x8 inch building a 6" aura would be blown up to 14"x14".

brumbaer wrote:
There is neither rule nor reason to treat the range of an aura applied from outside of defensible terrain differently from other ranges, just as @Snugiraffe already stated.

The rule for handling auras from inside Defensible Terrain is needed, because you would otherwise extend the area of effect immensely. If the model would be within an 8x8 inch building a 6" aura would be blown up to 14"x14".

To a 20" diameter, actually, but yeah

I'm about to host a game of Apocalypse for the first time with a group of players who have not played it before either. I've just read the rules and they seem pretty straightforward. I'll probably assemble random strategic asset decks beforehand to save time on the night of the game. Any further advice for a first-timer?

I also have a question: the section on damage resolution only talks about units, and damaging/crippling/removing them as a whole. However, the datacards for infantry units are obviously written with the idea that one statline = one model. Am I right in thinking that I should be removing individual models from infantry units as the damage eats up their wounds?

 General Helstrom wrote:
I'm about to host a game of Apocalypse for the first time with a group of players who have not played it before either. I've just read the rules and they seem pretty straightforward. I'll probably assemble random strategic asset decks beforehand to save time on the night of the game. Any further advice for a first-timer?

I also have a question: the section on damage resolution only talks about units, and damaging/crippling/removing them as a whole. However, the datacards for infantry units are obviously written with the idea that one statline = one model. Am I right in thinking that I should be removing individual models from infantry units as the damage eats up their wounds?

The literal opposite is true. The statline is the for unit as a whole. Models do not have statlines in Apoc.

 BaconCatBug wrote:
The literal opposite is true. The statline is the for unit as a whole. Models do not have statlines in Apoc.

Oh OK, wow! So just one unsaved hit takes out a tactical squad? This is going to be bloody

 General Helstrom wrote:

 BaconCatBug wrote:
The literal opposite is true. The statline is the for unit as a whole. Models do not have statlines in Apoc.

Oh OK, wow! So just one unsaved hit takes out a tactical squad? This is going to be bloody

If it's a 5 model squad, yes. A 10 model squad has 2 wounds.

 BaconCatBug wrote:
Oh OK, wow! So just one unsaved hit takes out a tactical squad? This is going to be bloody

If it's a 5 model squad, yes. A 10 model squad has 2 wounds.

 BaconCatBug wrote:

 General Helstrom wrote:
Oh OK, wow! So just one unsaved hit takes out a tactical squad? This is going to be bloody

If it's a 5 model squad, yes. A 10 model squad has 2 wounds.

Yup. Apoc is a much more manageable and much better game.

 BaconCatBug wrote:

 BaconCatBug wrote:

 General Helstrom wrote:
Oh OK, wow! So just one unsaved hit takes out a tactical squad? This is going to be bloody

If it's a 5 model squad, yes. A 10 model squad has 2 wounds.

Things are clicking in my head now, thanks This ought to be good. It's like Epic with 28mm figures.